View Full Version : Forget POTUS-- Romney runs for 'God'
01-19-2012, 05:09 PM
Many people notice a fair bit of hubris and arrogance in anyone who thinks they should be the one to be president. And that is likely an accurate observation.
However exalted the office of the presidency, however, it pales in comparison to The AllMighty, Lord of the Universe.
And that is what Willard M. Romney REALLY aspires to, believes he will achieve, and plans to make sure happens. (Albeit in an alternate universe, coming this summer.)
It makes the old Huey Long cry ('Every man a KING!') sound very unambitious, comparing it to 'Every man a GOD!'
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In the aftermath of Republican hopeful Mitt Romney‘s victory in New Hampshire, The Daily Show‘s Jon Stewart was in awe of the former Massachusetts Governor’s success despite having no real enthusiastic fans. “He became the first Republican non-incumbent to win Iowa and New Hampshire while still having no one like him!” Stewart jabbed. </div></div>
Which is true! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
Remember the fuss the RW made over Kerry flip flopping [ possibly] on one issue? I remember eg8r using that phrase all the time. Anyway, Romney has flip flopped on every issue multiple times. He even does it sometimes in a single sentence!
Socialised HC? Romney did it when he was Governor and at the time thought it was a great idea.
A Vulture capitalist, bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, etc etc etc...and he could be the GOP Pres candidate???? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif
Then of course we have the very ethically challenged Newt.
When you only have two choices, Dem or Rep, the independent voter goes for the person they least dislike. These two have no chance.
Can you cite where he said this, or anything even close?
Of course you can't.
Are regurgitating the pap spoon fed to you by some moonbat crazy leftist site?
Of course you are.
Is this surprising to me?
01-20-2012, 02:05 PM
So you know nothing of the LDS teachings? Or fail to realize that Romney has been a long-time elder or more in his church?
You now assert he doesn't believe in his own religion, without the slightest evidence? Wow, I'm not even that harsh in judging the man. I presume he believes his religion's teachings. It would take more cynicism than I have about him to deny that claim.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can you cite where he said this, </div></div>
He never said he said it moron. It wasn't a quote moron.
Try and keep up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So you know nothing of the LDS teachings? </div></div>
Very little, but I will have a stab. In every religion the goal is to take over the world? Something like that?.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So you know nothing of the LDS teachings? Or fail to realize that Romney has been a long-time elder or more in his church?
You now assert he doesn't believe in his own religion, without the slightest evidence? Wow, I'm not even that harsh in judging the man. I presume he believes his religion's teachings. It would take more cynicism than I have about him to deny that claim. </div></div>
Poor dodge ... you made a claim and you can't back it up.
Sadly, this also comes as no surprise.
01-21-2012, 11:31 AM
Unless the LDS has removed all descriptions of its doctrines from the web, of course it can be easily proven, with citations to the original text.
Here's one website's description, as to what God is, and as to what men can become. It boils down to this doctrine: as man is now, God once was; as God is now, man can become:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> God
God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
"The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s..." (D&C 130:22).
God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
God the Father had a Father, (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105).
God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
God had sexual relations with Mary to make the body of Jesus, (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218; vol. 8, p. 115). - This one is disputed among many Mormons and not always 'officially' taught and believed. Nevertheless, Young, the 2nd prophet of the Mormon church taught it.
"Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body . . . of flesh and bones." (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38).
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>God, becoming a god
After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.)
"Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them," (D&C 132:20).</span>
God, many gods
There are many gods, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
"And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light," (Book of Abraham 4:3).
God, mother goddess
There is a mother god, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).</div></div>
Note, 'D&C' means the Mormon holy scripture known as 'Doctrine and Covenants.'
01-21-2012, 03:16 PM
Help me out here.
We hav (Bible & Koran) God -- who iz aktually 3 Gods in 1 God.
And we hav other gods -- ie humans who hav bekum gods.
Or praps not yet -- but after the endtimes.
And we hav other (nonBible and nonKoran) gods -- different to God or Gods or upstart-human-gods.
What about angels and the devil (or devils) -- are they gods too.
And do we hav gods that used to be prophets and/or saints -- eg hundreds of saintly-gods -- and praps Muhammad-god, etc.
01-22-2012, 12:58 PM
You're right-- the Trinity doctrine makes Christians sort of polytheists. The Hindus have their own trinity, in the 3 phases of Brahma, as Brahma the creater, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva, the destroyer. Different, and yet all one, nonetheless.
The Roman Catholic practice of praying to saints for intervention with God makes them like gods, or like Jesus the Intercessor, and various polytheistic religions like Santeria simply replace their pantheon of real (nature) gods or demi-gods with corresponding saints' names.
And in fairness to the Mormon doctrine, it is quite true that the Hebrew of Genesis uses a plural form of god, which is perhaps most correctly translated as 'gods' (plural). Even the 10 Commandments seem to imply the existence of other gods, as in, thou shalt have no other gods before me. (It doesn't clarify that they are false gods, or not gods at all.)
01-22-2012, 01:39 PM
Yes it iz 100% clear that God123 sez that we shood stay clear of other gods -- He dont say that He123 Iz the One123 and only god.
And He123 sez that He123 iz a Jealous god -- praps this direkt threat iz against we, but it might be a threat against other gods -- alltho other gods would be innocent if they didnt encourage we in some way, but i guess that that wouldnt wash with God123.
I havnt checked for a while -- but i guess that saints etc must hav been allowed up to Heaven before judgement day.
01-25-2012, 03:13 PM
'Ascended Masters' are not all ascended, nor masters. Discuss. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
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