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Soflasnapper
01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Sez Steve Schmidt, Republican strategist and McCain campaign chief.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From this Saturday's South Carolina Republican primary coverage on MSNBC, former McCain adviser Steve Schmidt was asked what would happen were Newt Gingrich to win the next primary race in Florida as well and it didn't bode well for the Republican Party and the potential for a bit of a civil war among their ranks.

SCHMIDT: Look, I think, not only are we not moving towards a coalescing of support by the Republican establishment for Newt Gingrich, we're probably moving toward the declaration of war on Newt Gingrich by the Republican establishment. And if Newt Gingrich is able to win the Florida primary, you will see a panic and a meltdown of the Republican establishment that is beyond my ability to articulate in the English language.

People will go crazy and you will have this five week period until the Super Tuesday states which is going to be as unpredictable, tumultuous as any period in modern American politics. It will be a remarkable thing to watch should that happen in Florida.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>As Schmidt pointed out Gingrich's negatives are so high with one hundred percent name recognition establishment Republicans are terrified he's not only going to lose them the presidential election should he win their primary race, but he'd potentially cost them the House and the Senate as well.</span> If Schmidt's predictions are true, look for things to get very ugly over the next month or so. </div></div>

Gingrich currently leads Romney in Florida by about 8 points, iirc. Heh!

Gingrich is at 60% unfavorable with the public at large, and that trend line is dramatically up.

Ann Coulter says that with Gingrich, you get to throw out the baby and keep the dirty wash water. Somehow I like her acid tongue when directed at the proper persons in circular firing squad fashion. I think that makes me a bad person, though. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

LWW
01-24-2012, 04:40 PM
Yep ... following the McCain/Dole RINO strategy is the demokrooks idea of how the (R) party should run the campaign.

Soflasnapper
01-24-2012, 05:42 PM
Dems would prefer Gingrich win the nomination, Bozo.

It is the GOP that is soiling their britches over the prospect. Sheer panic, in fact. They are Romneying themselves (Romney: to defecate in terror).

I can't believe you don't realize Gingrich is himself an establishment RINO, btw. That he swings a mean ax at the media doesn't change that fact.

LWW
01-25-2012, 04:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dems would prefer Gingrich win the nomination, Bozo.</div></div>

That explains why they are going to such desperate lengths to destroy him.

LWW
01-25-2012, 04:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't believe you don't realize Gingrich is himself an establishment RINO, btw. That he swings a mean ax at the media doesn't change that fact. </div></div>

That is obvious to any sane witness ... and is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Qtec
01-25-2012, 05:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dems would prefer Gingrich win the nomination, Bozo.</div></div>

That explains why they are going to such desperate lengths to destroy him. </div></div>

No, just speaking the truth.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Former Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL), a man known for not mincing his words, blasted former House Speaker Newt Gingrich during a Tuesday appearance on MSNBC.

“It’s going to get very ugly [in Florida], but it is not going to make any difference,” he said. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“Newt Gingrich is the most hateful person in American politics today and he is well on his way to becoming the most hated.”

“His disapproval ratings are now at 60 percent nationwide, which is very close to his name recognition,”</span> Grayson continued. <u>“And the more people know him, the more they are going to hate him.</u> He is the new Nixon and none of this money is going to make any difference in that regard.” </div></div>



LOL. A man that speaks his mind. Watch it (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/24/grayson-calls-gingrich-the-most-hateful-person-in-american-politics/)

Q

Soflasnapper
01-25-2012, 01:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dems would prefer Gingrich win the nomination, Bozo.</div></div>

That explains why they are going to such desperate lengths to destroy him. </div></div>

It's true that millions of dollars of negative ads have been dumped on ol' Newt's head.

The problem for your claim is that these were the expenditures of his Republican opponents, and their related super-PACs, and in no way related to the Democrats.

It's also true that Fox and Rush have dumped on Newt. They are also not Democrats doing that, and rather the opposite.

So, while Newt it taking heaving incoming fire, I can't think of much in the way of Democratic fire involved, or at least certainly, nothing beginning to approach what the REPUBLICANS and CONSERVATIVES are saying about him.

What would that consist of, specifically, in terms of 'desperate lengths'? Do you believe the Dems have hypnotized Fox, the GOP rival compaigns, and Rush, into falsely attacking him, or what?

eg8r
01-25-2012, 02:17 PM
Who cares what Reps are saying now. What do you think they will say if Newt wins the nomination?

eg8r

Soflasnapper
01-25-2012, 02:36 PM
They will continue 'to say the same thing,' via video tape recordings played in the general election in Democratic sponsored campaign ads.

Most of them will change their tune, and at least offer pro forma support for their party. Some won't be able to, and will remain silent rather than betray their own integrity by flipping to praising the guy. And lastly, there's always the lesser of two evils argument, which needn't even be put in those words. Simply attack Obama, period.