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Qtec
02-02-2012, 06:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'Gasland' Journalists Arrested At Hearing By Order Of House <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Republicans </span></div></div>

So much for open Govt.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON -- In a stunning break with First Amendment policy, House Republicans directed Capitol Hill police to detain a highly regarded documentary crew that was attempting to film a Wednesday hearing on a controversial natural gas procurement practice. Initial reports from sources suggested that an ABC News camera was also prevented from taping the hearing; ABC has since denied that they sent a crew to the hearing. </div></div>

link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/house-republicans-order-j_n_1246971.html)

Thugocracy?

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Qtec
02-02-2012, 06:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Carl Stiles, Fracking Activist, Dies Away From His Contaminated Marcellus Shale Home

The gas companies insist fracking has nothing to do with the wave of illnesses in the Marcellus Shale communities, yet people with strange symptoms continue to die. We don't know how many more, because when the people whose water was contaminated by the drilling get a clean water supply, they sign a legal agreement not to talk about it anymore:

Fracktivist Carl Stiles, of Bradford County, PA, died last night, after living with illnesses caused by shale gas drilling. Mr. Stiles was <u>forced to move away from his Bradford County home as an environmental refugee.
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Carl Stiles had intestinal cancer which he blamed on Chesapeake’s gas drilling. He and his wife abandoned their home last November at the urging of a toxicologist who found <span style='font-size: 17pt'>barium, arsenic, and VOCs (volatile organic chemicals) in Carl’s blood. Strontium, uranium and radium were found in their water. They’ve been told to expect to get leukemia within two years.</span>

The radioactivity level in their home was almost <span style='font-size: 14pt'>7 times the EPA standard limit. The Stiles were forced to abandon their home and all the possessions in it. Carl died of intestinal cancer on January 26, 2012. </span> </div></div>

watch clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GFbIOgfAddo)

If you haven't seen it, maybe you can see it here.. (http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/afleveringen/2011-2012/gasland.html)

Q.........flammable water??????????

LWW
02-02-2012, 06:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thugocracy?

Q </div></div>

I think it is.

The difference between you and I on this is that I see it where and when it happens without regard to who is practicing it ... you see it only where you are told, by the regime, that you see it.

LWW
02-02-2012, 06:33 AM
Now, if you want to discuss the junk science presented by "GASLAND" ... it has been shown to be junk science that is spoon fed to hyper partisans by the moonbat crazy left media.

Qtec
02-02-2012, 07:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The difference between you and I on this is that I see it where and when it happens without regard to who is practicing it </div></div>

Yes, we get it. Dick Cheney trashes the Clean Air, Clean Water acts. Slashes funding for the EPA and other regulatory agencies and gives fracking companies free range to pollute, and you blame the Dems.
Got it.

Pathetic.

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LWW
02-02-2012, 05:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The difference between you and I on this is that I see it where and when it happens without regard to who is practicing it </div></div>

Yes, we get it. Dick Cheney trashes the Clean Air, Clean Water acts. Slashes funding for the EPA and other regulatory agencies and gives fracking companies free range to pollute, and you blame the Dems.

Q </div></div>

How did he do all of this?

Qtec
02-03-2012, 06:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Energy Task Force, officially the National Energy Policy Development Group (NEPDG), was a task force created by then-U.S. President George W. Bush in 2001 during his second week in office. <u>Vice President Dick Cheney was named chairman.</u>

Controversy

Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials. The organisations Judicial Watch and Sierra Club launched a law suit (U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia: Judicial Watch Inc. v. Department of Energy, et al., Civil Action No. 01-0981) under the FOIA to gain access to the task force's materials.<u> After several years of legal wrangling, in May, 2005 an appeals court permitted the Energy Task Force's records to remain secret.</u> </div></div>

When we are talking about Fracking specifically, it was Cheney's ETF that put the waiver in the bill.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In 2005, at the urging of Vice President Cheney, fracking fluids were exempted from the Clean Water Act <span style='font-size: 14pt'>after the companies that own the patents on the process raised concerns about disclosing proprietary formulas </span>- if they had to meet the Act's standards they would have to reveal the chemical composition which competitors could then steal. Fair enough, but this also exempts these companies from having to meet the strict regulations that protect the nation's freshwater supply.

This was a sweetheart political deal and <span style='font-size: 14pt'>it probably doesn't surprise you that the the Vice President's former employer Halliburton is one of the largest players in providing hydraulic fracturing services to gas companies. </span> </div></div>

How did they get away with it?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">EPA Findings on Hydraulic Fracturing Deemed “Unsupportable”

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>When an EPA study concluding that hydraulic fracturing <u>"poses little or no threat"</u> to drinking water supplies was published in 2004</span>,¹ several EPA scientists challenged the study's methodology and <span style='font-size: 14pt'>questioned the impartiality of the expert panel that reviewed its findings.</span> The Bush administration has strongly supported hydraulic fracturing, an oil extraction technique developed by Halliburton Co., </div></div>

The EPS study was a whitewash and it was approved by a 7 member panel with 5 of them with connections to the Oil and Gas Industry.

Whistleblower.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The EPA study was undertaken in response to a 1994 petition to the EPA from residents of the state of Alabama claiming their drinking water had been contaminated by the process. In 1997 the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that hydraulic fracturing should be regulated under federal law.6 The Bush administration weighed in early on the issue of hydraulic fracturing. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>The Los Angeles Times reported that Vice President Cheney's 2001 energy task force report touted the benefits of hydraulic fracturing while ignoring its potential consequences, in spite of repeated requests by EPA scientists to include mention of environmental concerns.</span> Cheney’s office was "involved in discussions about how fracturing should be portrayed in the report," the Times reported, even though the Vice President served as chief executive of Halliburton, Co., which earns a large chunk of its energy revenues, about $1.5 billion annually, from the practice.7

In 2004, the EPA's study was released, concluding that hydraulic fracturing did not threaten water supplies and that no further study of the practice was needed.8 Soon afterwards, Weston Wilson, a scientist and 31-year veteran of the EPA, spoke out. In an 18-page letter to the EPA Inspector General and to congressional leaders, Wilson, who sought protection under the federal Whistleblower Protection Act wrote:

EPA's conclusions are unsupportable. EPA has conducted limited research reaching the unsupported conclusion that this industry practice needs no further study at this time. EPA decisions were supported by a Peer Review Panel; <span style='font-size: 14pt'>however five of the seven members of this panel appear to have conflicts-of-interest</span> and may benefit from EPA's decision not to conduct further investigation or impose regulatory conditions. </div></div> link (http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/abuses_of_science/oil-extraction.html)

Cheney got his waiver for fracking on the back of a flawed report passed by a panel of his cronies.

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LWW
02-03-2012, 06:46 AM
Why did the demokrooks pass the bill?

Qtec
02-03-2012, 07:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did the demokrooks pass the bill? </div></div>

I don't know. Possibly it was because it was a wide ranging bill full of earmarks etc and everyone wanted a piece?

What does that have to do with Cheney's con?

Q

LWW
02-03-2012, 03:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did the demokrooks pass the bill? </div></div>

I don't know. Possibly it was because it was a wide ranging bill full of earmarks etc and everyone wanted a piece?

Q </div></div>

Thanks for having the integrity to admit that they were for sale.