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Qtec
02-14-2012, 01:40 AM
Its either,

Willard 'the mega flip flopper liar',

or

Rick 'the mega hypocrite liar'.

LOL




Rick said recently,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rick Santorum told an audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this morning that insurance plans shouldn’t cover contraception services because birth control “costs a few dollars” and is only a <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“minor expense”</span> for women: </div></div>

LOL. What a hypocrite. Not many know this but they will if he gets the nomination.

Enjoy.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Strange But True: Rick Santorum's PAC Loved Arby's, Coffee

Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum has tried to claim the mantle of fiscal conservatism during the 2012 campaign, claiming on his campaign website that he will "restrain spending by living within our means" if he makes it to the White House.

While he was still in the Senate, however, Santorum was unable to restrain his own spending -- let alone America's.

According to a 2006 story in The American Prospect, Santorum's political action committee -- "America's Foundation" -- spent thousands of dollars on fast food, coffee, and personal travel expenses.

Leadership PACs such as America's Foundation are supposed to be a way for congressmen to raise money in support of the campaigns and PACs of their colleagues. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>America's Foundation, however, spent just 18.1 percent of the $5,363,835 that it raised between 2001 and 2005 on other candidates and political committees (the lowest percentage of any leadership PAC reviewed by the Prospect.)</span>

<span style='font-size: 26pt'>So what was the PAC spending its money on?</span>

A category that America's Foundation called "other federal expenditures." According to the Prospect, some of the items charged to Santorum's PAC between 2001 and 2005 include:

-66 visits to various Starbucks, totaling $558.65
-$380 worth of coffee from HMS Host of Bethesda, MD
-A $175.05 meal at Smith and Wollensky's steakhouse in Philadelphia, PA
-11 Arby's meals totaling $118.25
-Four meals at various Burger Kings, totaling $50.36
-A $29 meal at TGI Friday's in Pittsburgh
-Two meals at Giovanni's New York Pizzaria in Leesburg, VA, totaling $21.73
-Several meals at Great Wall Express in Alexandria, VA, including one for just $5.74
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>-A $4.48 ice cream purchase at Ben & Jerry's and a $3.71 purchase at Goodnoe Farms ice cream store
-A $2.49 purchase at an Auntie Anne's pretzel store</span>

<span style='font-size: 26pt'><span style="color: #990000">Clearly, no charge was too small for Santorum's PAC to bust out the company credit card.</span></span> The committee also paid for several more expensive items, including hundreds of dollars of office supplies and tens of thousands of dollars in travel expenses.

Although Santorum's spokesman at the time told the Prospect that every expense listed was related to the PAC's mission, <u>it's hard to understand how 11 trips to Arby's supported America's Foundation's mission of supporting Santorum's congressional colleagues.</u>

America's Foundation's odd spending habits raised eyebrows among campaign finance watchdogs. Larry Noble, the executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, told the Prospect that leadership PACs aren't "supposed to be used as a slush fund or a coffee fund."

Still, he doubted that it could be proven that Santorum violated any of the Federal Election Commission's ridiculously lenient rules on PAC spending

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Leadership PACs are the Wild West of campaign money,"</span> Meredith McGehee, policy director for the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center, told the Washington Post in 2006.

Santorum's political slush fund is still paying dividends for him today; although America's Foundation is now defunct, its aggressive coffee-buying habits <span style='font-size: 14pt'>helped Santorum earn a Starbucks gold card, which gives daily visitors "exclusive VIP treatment."</span> </div></div>

OMG. He used the PAC credit card to make <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A $2.49 purchase at an Auntie Anne's pretzel store </div></div>

WTF!

Rick has as many skeletons in the closet as Newt does.

Q

LWW
02-14-2012, 04:37 AM
You wear hypocrisy well

Qtec
02-14-2012, 05:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You wear hypocrisy well </div></div>

I,m not running for POTUS. Rick is.

Want to talk about that ?

Q....we all know the answer.

LWW
02-14-2012, 06:03 AM
I would ... if you were ever, just once, willing to discuss the same actions from your beloved regime.

eg8r
02-14-2012, 07:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clearly, no charge was too small for Santorum's PAC to bust out the company credit card.</div></div>I used my company card to buy a snack on the train heading back to London. It is part of our policy to use the company card for all company related expeditures. It generally is the rule for most if not all company's since it is easier to track than cash.

Wait a sec...have you ever worked somewhere that would actually give you a company card?

eg8r

LWW
02-14-2012, 04:41 PM
Stop using logic please ... you know it riles him so.

Qtec
02-15-2012, 06:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clearly, no charge was too small for Santorum's PAC to bust out the company credit card.</div></div>

I used my company card to buy a snack on the train heading back to London.<span style="color: #3333FF"> I bet you did.</span> It is part of our policy to use the company card for all company related expeditures. <span style="color: #000099"> Your 'snack' was absolutely necessary of course!</span> It generally is the rule for most if not all company's since it is easier to track than cash.
<span style="color: #000099">..and who pays for your snack? The tax payer??????????</span>

Wait a sec...have you ever worked somewhere that would actually give you a company card?

eg8r </div></div>

No. I have never been on that gravy train.



BACK to the topic.

Was Santorum employed by his PAC?

Was Santorum working when he bought that Pretzel?

Any reasonable person can see that Santorum was using his PAC to finance his living expenses. PURE FRAUD.

Another thing, Santorum attacks Govt run institutions like the Dept of Education, BUY he gets $76,000 a year from them because he teaches his kids nonsense at home???????????


Q

LWW
02-15-2012, 06:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was Santorum employed by his PAC?

Was Santorum working when he bought that Pretzel?

Any reasonable person can see that Santorum was using his PAC to finance his living expenses. PURE FRAUD.

Q </div></div>

Yet you defended Pelosi running up a $250K bar bill for in flight drinks for her pals ... at taxpayer expense.

Qtec
02-15-2012, 06:48 AM
Yet again. NO ANSWER.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Was Santorum employed by his PAC?

Was Santorum working when he bought that Pretzel? </div></div>






Q

eg8r
02-15-2012, 10:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your 'snack' was absolutely necessary of course!</div></div>So now you have proven you have never worked in a job where they trusted you with the company card. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif FYI, while on business travel they are not used for necessity only. If that were true then we could just expense the rental car and one meal per day. LOL, it is funny to see how ignorant you are when you attempt to use your own thoughts in your posts. Again much better for you to shut up and just quote others.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No. I have never been on that gravy train.
</div></div>Sure you were. You worked in an illegal casino stealing money from your fellow countrymen. Since when does a criminal like yourself NOT consider getting away with crime not being on the "gravy" train?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was Santorum working when he bought that Pretzel?
</div></div>This is irrelevant. When you are on travel your food is covered. When people are out on business travel they are not required to talk about work just to get a bagel for breakfast you idiot.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any reasonable person can see that Santorum was using his PAC to finance his living expenses. PURE FRAUD.
</div></div>Considering your personal experience in fraud I would think you could talk more intelligently about it. I guess I am wrong.

eg8r

eg8r
02-15-2012, 10:09 AM
LOL, he points out your hypocrisy and you attempt to divert. Hilarious.

eg8r

Qtec
02-16-2012, 05:06 AM
First of all %$#&**&, I never defrauded anyone and I never stole from anyone, so before you go accusing people you might want to get your facts straight.

The tax payer paid for your snack and your trip to London and all those fancy restaurants...admit it.

eg8r
02-16-2012, 08:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First of all %$#&**&, I never defrauded anyone and I never stole from anyone, </div></div>NOw you are lying. You said you worked under the table and did not pay your taxes. You stole from your countrymen. Tax evasion loser.

As far as the taxpayer paying for my snack, sorry it didn't happen. I am not working on a government program dillhole. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif I love it when you use your own brain and show how little mental capacity you have. LOL

eg8r

LWW
02-16-2012, 09:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First of all %$#&**&, I never defrauded anyone and I never stole from anyone, </div></div>NOw you are lying. You said you worked under the table and did not pay your taxes. You stole from your countrymen. Tax evasion loser.

As far as the taxpayer paying for my snack, sorry it didn't happen. I am not working on a government program dillhole. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif I love it when you use your own brain and show how little mental capacity you have. LOL

eg8r </div></div>

How much more is 13.9% than 0.0%?

pooltchr
02-16-2012, 06:01 PM
Q would have been happier had Rick eaten at Ruths Chris Steakhouse, rather than Arbys. I guess eating isn't a necessity for presidential candidates on the campaign trail.
Steve

eg8r
02-16-2012, 07:51 PM
Well Arby's sure was a far cry from the food and booze Pelosi was woofing down with friends and family on that plane ride to Cali.

eg8r

LWW
02-17-2012, 04:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well Arby's sure was a far cry from the food and booze Pelosi was woofing down with friends and family on that plane ride to Cali.

eg8r </div></div>

Haven't you heard the newest dembot excuse ... since Miss Nancy didn't herself personally eat and drink every cent worth of the $101K, it doesn't count.

Qtec
02-17-2012, 05:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Q: Has Nancy Pelosi spent $100,000 on food, booze and "partying" during her air travel?

A: No. Pelosi’s congressional delegations do eat well and drink pricey alcohol. But the costs are not as high as critics claim, and they’re comparable to those of her Republican predecessor, Dennis Hastert. </div></div>

Q

LWW
02-17-2012, 06:00 AM
And?

Qtec
02-17-2012, 06:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Claim: Pelosi spent over $100,000 on food and alcohol.
Fact: Her delegations did spend that amount, but not just on food and booze. (And <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Pelosi doesn’t drink.</span>) </div></div>

LOL

Q

eg8r
02-17-2012, 08:48 AM
LOL, I love it when you open your mouth and prove everything I have said all along about you. Now you are telling us that she was blowing our taxpayer money on expensive food and booze for friends and family, not counting free plane rides back and forth across the country and you get a little puddle in your pants because Santorum stopped for a pretzel on a busy trip instead of getting a full meal.

eg8r

eg8r
02-17-2012, 08:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A: No. Pelosi’s congressional delegations do eat well and drink pricey alcohol. But the costs are not as high as critics claim, and they’re comparable to those of her Republican predecessor, Dennis Hastert. </div></div>LOL, that is freaking priceless. qtip goes out of his way to prove Pelosi doesn't drink but still spent excessive amounts of money on pricey food and alcohol.

Listen real closely qtip because this will surely fly over your head quickly...Your Q&A doesn't say anything contrary to what we have said. Do you honestly think Pelosi was holed up in cave on those flights back with all her friends and family whooping it up and having a good time at the expense of the taxpayers? Sure you do, because you blindly believe whatever you read if it fits your fantasy.

eg8r

LWW
02-17-2012, 05:17 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Claim: Pelosi spent over $100,000 on food and alcohol.
Fact: Her delegations did spend that amount, but not just on food and booze. (And <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Pelosi doesn’t drink.</span>) </div></div>

LOL

Q </div></div>

And?

LWW
02-17-2012, 05:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A: No. Pelosi’s congressional delegations do eat well and drink pricey alcohol. But the costs are not as high as critics claim, and they’re comparable to those of her Republican predecessor, Dennis Hastert. </div></div>LOL, that is freaking priceless. qtip goes out of his way to prove Pelosi doesn't drink but still spent excessive amounts of money on pricey food and alcohol.

Listen real closely qtip because this will surely fly over your head quickly...Your Q&A doesn't say anything contrary to what we have said. Do you honestly think Pelosi was holed up in cave on those flights back with all her friends and family whooping it up and having a good time at the expense of the taxpayers? Sure you do, because you blindly believe whatever you read if it fits your fantasy.

eg8r </div></div>

My guess is that he would believe Bush held a gun to her head while Cheney ran up the bar bill and McCain flew the plane.

Qtec
02-18-2012, 04:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now you are telling us that she was blowing our taxpayer money on expensive food and booze for friends and family, not counting free plane rides back and forth across the country </div></div>

some FACTS for you. (http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/)


LOL What a flip flopper you are. You have just been trying to justify your snack going on the company CC because you were working? and now it seems you are criticising Pelosi for doing the same thing!!!!!..and she was the Speaker of the House!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>The Speaker is <u>second in the United States presidential line of succession,</u> after the Vice President </span> </div></div>

About that Pelosi wants a bigger plane crap, another Republican MYTH.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House security chief: Pelosi didn't ask for plane; I did.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not request a larger plane for personal use to travel cross-country without stopping, Bill Livingood, the House sergeant at arms, said Thursday.

Livingood said the request was his, and he made it for security reasons.

"The fact that Speaker Pelosi lives in California compelled me to request an aircraft that is capable of making non-stop flights for security purposes, unless such an aircraft is unavailable," Livingood, who has been at his post for 11 years, said in a written statement. </div></div>

Just more false outrage based on made up crap.

Q

LWW
02-18-2012, 07:14 AM
And?

eg8r
02-19-2012, 08:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL What a flip flopper you are. You have just been trying to justify your snack going on the company CC because you were working? and now it seems you are criticising Pelosi for doing the same thing!!!!!..</div></div>Actually dillhole, I am showing you how big a flip flopper you are. I am fine with Santorum's pretzel, fiscally it is a lot more responsible than Pelosi's free vacations (for friends and family) in which she supplied expensive food and booze at the expense of the taxpayer.

Now if you wanted to compare the two you would choose an example where they were on common ground. If you had said Pelosi was eating a pretzel then I would say it was perfectly fine. If you were to say Santorum was using taxpayer money to fly his friends and family all over the US while throwing expense food and booze parties on the plane then I would have a problem with that. I am very consistent as I don't allow partisanship to block my view. You just have your head so far up your rear you cannot tell the difference between flip flopping and common sense.

eg8r

Qtec
02-20-2012, 01:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am fine with Santorum's pretzel, fiscally it is a lot more responsible than Pelosi's free vacations (for friends and family) in which she supplied expensive food and booze at the expense of the taxpayer. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But the pages of federal records show that no charge was too small for America's Foundation: not the $4.44 it paid to a Sheetz Service Station in Mt. Jackson, Virginia, in July 2002; not the $3.71 it paid at Goodnoe Farms, a popular Bucks County ice cream stop, in May 2004; not the $4.48 at a Ben & Jerry's in August 2002; not the $5.26 at a Wawa convenience store in June 2003; and not the $2.49 at an Auntie Anne's pretzel store in June 2004. On five occasions, charges -- totaling $338.87 -- were made at <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Giant Foods supermarkets</span> in Leesburg and Burke, Virginia. </div></div>

Are you going to tell me shopping at the supermarket was a campaign expense?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am very consistent as I don't allow partisanship to block my view.

eg8r </div></div>

LMAO..............



Back to the topic.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rick Santorum told an audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this morning that insurance plans shouldn’t cover contraception services because birth control <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“costs a few dollars” and is only a “minor expense” </span></div></div>

Later, Rick was quoted as saying,

"I don't see the problem! Geez, if they haven't got the cash, do what I do and just charge it to your PAC.


Q With A Little Help From His Friends or How Tricky Ricky got his house. (http://prospect.org/article/little-help-his-friends)

Not the little innocent.

LWW
02-20-2012, 04:49 AM
Yep ... that's pretty bad.

I can say that.

Yet, due to your innate love for hypocrisy, you couldn't bring yourself to denounce the Obama/Rezco house deal ... or how Dod and other demokrooks took sweetheart deals from mortgage giants they were defending in congress.

It's a shame that you insist on being so willingly ignorant.

Qtec
02-20-2012, 05:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep ... that's pretty bad.

I can say that. </div></div>



Well thank you for that. its good to see even you have your limits. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif


This isn't partisan, its about people who want to be leaders practising what they preach.
Not even that really.

Look, lets say Rick is against alcohol.
Fine.
Lets say it turns out Rick likes a Jack Daniels now and again.
That would be hypocrisy.
If Rick would <u>criticize or condemn others</u> for drinking, that takes it to another level. This is where Rick is now.

Rick's whole spiel now is that he is 'Miss Goody two Shoe's' and is as 'pure as the driven snow'. A vote for Rick is a vote for God! All the rest are phoney, even other Christians!

Some of Rick's best friends are in jail or have done time.

Q

LWW
02-20-2012, 06:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This isn't partisan, its about people who want to be leaders practising what they preach.

Q

</div></div>

It's entirely about partisanship ... and your willingness to be a spoon licking apologist for massive crimes while denouncing petty misdemeanors as capital offenses.

Qtec
02-20-2012, 06:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This isn't partisan, its about people who want to be leaders practising what they preach.

Q

</div></div>

It's entirely about partisanship ... and your willingness to be a spoon licking apologist for massive crimes while denouncing petty misdemeanors as capital offenses. </div></div>

You JUST DON'T GET IT!

After,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's entirely about partisanship </div></div>,

...you should expand on this. Give your reasons, backed up with SOME kind of info or evidence or facts that supports your CLAIM.

You never do.

What YOU do every day is the same thing you accuse me of. From day one , everything Obama has done or not done is wrong, right?

Continue with your preaching about how objective you are..

Q


What massive crimes?

The last admin leading the USA into a war under false pretences?

eg8r
02-20-2012, 09:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going to tell me shopping at the supermarket was a campaign expense?
</div></div>Why wouldn't it be? Again, you have only worked in jobs where you are told where to stock the toilet paper. You don't understand what it is like to have a job that gives more responsiblity to the employee. Yes this is a justifiable expense on any business expense report when on travel.

eg8r

LWW
02-20-2012, 04:33 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You JUST DON'T GET IT!

After,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's entirely about partisanship </div></div>,

...you should expand on this. Give your reasons, backed up with SOME kind of info or evidence or facts that supports your CLAIM.

Q </div></div>

EXHIBIT A (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=377551#Post377551)

LWW
02-20-2012, 04:34 PM
EXHIBIT B (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=377695#Post377695)