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LWW
02-18-2012, 06:56 AM
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ON LENIN'S BEARD I SWEAR THAT MADAME MESSIAH MOOCHELLE HERSELF HAS SAVED THE STATE'S MOST VALUABLE ASSETS ... THE CHILDREN ... FROM THE EVIL INFLICTED BY THEIR PROLETARIAT PARENTAL UNITS. REJOICE KOMRADES AND KOMRADETTES AS WE CELEBRATE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW ... DEAR LEADER ALONE KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR US (http://moonbattery.com/?p=8104)

Soflasnapper
02-18-2012, 11:16 AM
An ignorant mischaracterization. Again?

LWW
02-18-2012, 12:19 PM
Yet you have no explanation as to why?

Soflasnapper
02-18-2012, 03:36 PM
That's how you are, I suppose. Reasons that you are like you are escape me, as I don't know your formative history.

LWW
02-18-2012, 04:54 PM
Nobody actually thought you could explain your reasoning.

Soflasnapper
02-18-2012, 05:41 PM
Ok, more seriously, then.

Right wing talkers and their acolytes are like a tremendously long line of people playing 'telephone.' You know, where one person whispers to the next, and the next to the next, and so on.

Most of us know what happens at the end of this process. Down the line, however many people are involved, the last person says what he/she thought he/she heard the penultimate in line to say. It's nearly always very, very different from what was first said.

So the whole thing starts with maybe something true, maybe something half-true at best, maybe something false, inarguably. Then it gets passed from hysteric to hysteric, and loses whatever grounding in reality it may have originally had (although frankly, often, there was nothing there in the first place).

That seems exactly what you've done in this case, taking the result of such a telephone game, and then creatively mashing it up further in your inimitable style of buzzwords and catch phrases.

The truth is out there for you to find, but you cannot be bothered if the story line suits your world view. On another recent post, you claimed to have intellectual integrity. Why don't you ever use it, then?

Soflasnapper
02-18-2012, 05:51 PM
From, A North Carolina Non-Troversy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The headline sounds horrible, and the body of the story only makes it seems worse, conjuring images of government agents rifling through four year old children’s lunches to enforce USDA standards on healthy lunches, prohibiting children from eating food deemed insufficiently healthy (including turkey sandwiches!), and forcing them to instead eat government provided and mandated food (to wit: oh-so-healthy chicken nuggets). The original story also claims that the relevant regulations here apply to all pre-K programs, including home daycare programs, with the obvious implication that “this could happen to you!” This hits all sorts of libertarian buttons: invasion of privacy by the government, nanny statism of the highest order, government incompetence, not to mention forced-feeding of children. It even has the initial appearance of a well-sourced story, with quotes from the parent, the head of the state agency, and the school principal, not to mention the tie-in to Michelle Obama’s healthy school lunch platform.

Not surprisingly, this story has been picked up in large swathes of the libertarian and conservative blogospheres, including by Jacob Sullum, who is himself usually a pretty decent journalist, and entitled his post on the subject “North Carolina Food Inspector Rejects Little Girl’s Home-Packed Lunch in Favor of Chicken Nuggets.” The story even reached the pinnacle of attention within the right-of-center ideological media with a Rush Limbaugh segment (in which the “state agent” morphed into a “federal agent” charged with inspecting all lunch boxes). Predictably, the most outraged headline came from one of the folks at LewRockwell.com, “The Lunch Nazis are coming! No, They’re Here!”

One problem: the story is a load of bunk at worst, a non-story at best, standing for little more than the proposition that low-income children in NC’s low-income pre-K program whose parents don’t send them to school with enough healthy food will be provided with additional food to supplement what their parents send them to school with. </div></div>

Details here (http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/02/15/a-north-carolina-non-troversy/)

JohnnyD
02-19-2012, 03:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://moonbattery.com/michelle-obama-lunch.jpg

ON LENIN'S BEARD I SWEAR THAT MADAME MESSIAH MOOCHELLE HERSELF HAS SAVED THE STATE'S MOST VALUABLE ASSETS ... THE CHILDREN ... FROM THE EVIL INFLICTED BY THEIR PROLETARIAT PARENTAL UNITS. REJOICE KOMRADES AND KOMRADETTES AS WE CELEBRATE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW ... DEAR LEADER ALONE KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR US (http://moonbattery.com/?p=8104) </div></div>
A great writing by the greatest of them all....

LWW
02-19-2012, 03:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, more seriously, then.

Right wing talkers and their acolytes are like a tremendously long line of people playing 'telephone.' You know, where one person whispers to the next, and the next to the next, and so on.

Most of us know what happens at the end of this process. Down the line, however many people are involved, the last person says what he/she thought he/she heard the penultimate in line to say. It's nearly always very, very different from what was first said.

So the whole thing starts with maybe something true, maybe something half-true at best, maybe something false, inarguably. Then it gets passed from hysteric to hysteric, and loses whatever grounding in reality it may have originally had (although frankly, often, there was nothing there in the first place).

That seems exactly what you've done in this case, taking the result of such a telephone game, and then creatively mashing it up further in your inimitable style of buzzwords and catch phrases.

The truth is out there for you to find, but you cannot be bothered if the story line suits your world view. On another recent post, you claimed to have intellectual integrity. Why don't you ever use it, then? </div></div>

Are you denying the event took place, or are you realizing that through the deft of satire I have used a little absurdity to expose how absurd your beloved regime has become?

LWW
02-19-2012, 03:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From, A North Carolina Non-Troversy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The headline sounds horrible, and the body of the story only makes it seems worse, conjuring images of government agents rifling through four year old children’s lunches to enforce USDA standards on healthy lunches, prohibiting children from eating food deemed insufficiently healthy (including turkey sandwiches!), and forcing them to instead eat government provided and mandated food (to wit: oh-so-healthy chicken nuggets). The original story also claims that the relevant regulations here apply to all pre-K programs, including home daycare programs, with the obvious implication that “this could happen to you!” This hits all sorts of libertarian buttons: invasion of privacy by the government, nanny statism of the highest order, government incompetence, not to mention forced-feeding of children. It even has the initial appearance of a well-sourced story, with quotes from the parent, the head of the state agency, and the school principal, not to mention the tie-in to Michelle Obama’s healthy school lunch platform.

Not surprisingly, this story has been picked up in large swathes of the libertarian and conservative blogospheres, including by Jacob Sullum, who is himself usually a pretty decent journalist, and entitled his post on the subject “North Carolina Food Inspector Rejects Little Girl’s Home-Packed Lunch in Favor of Chicken Nuggets.” The story even reached the pinnacle of attention within the right-of-center ideological media with a Rush Limbaugh segment (in which the “state agent” morphed into a “federal agent” charged with inspecting all lunch boxes). Predictably, the most outraged headline came from one of the folks at LewRockwell.com, “The Lunch Nazis are coming! No, They’re Here!”

One problem: the story is a load of bunk at worst, a non-story at best, standing for little more than the proposition that low-income children in NC’s low-income pre-K program whose parents don’t send them to school with enough healthy food will be provided with additional food to supplement what their parents send them to school with. </div></div>

Details here (http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/02/15/a-north-carolina-non-troversy/) </div></div>

So if your contention is that your spoon fed data tells you that it never happened at all ... how do you explain that IT HAPPENED AGAIN? (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-2nd-n-c-mother-says-daughters-school-lunch-replaced-for-not-being-healthy-enough/)

LWW
02-19-2012, 03:58 AM
Thank you JohnnyD.

Qtec
02-19-2012, 04:35 AM
More BS.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The lunch Zambrano packed for her daughter? A cheese and salami sandwich on a wheat bun with apple juice. The lunch she got in the cafeteria? Chicken nuggets, a sweet potato, bread and milk.

“She never eats breakfast or lunch at the school,” Zambrano said of her daughter during an interview with The Blaze. “We always wake up early and make her lunch.”

It happens “every so often”

That day, Zambrano said she picked Jazlyn up from school and asked if she ate her lunch.

“She’s not picky about food but you have to be on top of her,” she explained.

When Jazlyn said she didn’t eat what her mother had made her, Zambrano went to her teacher and demanded to know what happened. She said the teacher told her an official had come through that day to inspect students’ lunches and that <span style='font-size: 14pt'>those who were <u>lacking</u> certain food groups were sent to the cafeteria.</span> <span style="color: #000099"> This is the same as the first case which was reported wrongly.</span> After she received her cafeteria food, the teacher told Zambrano, Jazlyn was told to put her homemade lunch back in her lunchbox and set it on the floor. <span style="color: #000099"> Don't believe it.</span> </div></div>

Kid only has a sandwich and juice.
Kid is told to go to the cantine and get what she is lacking,ie fruit etc.
Kid sees other food, eats that instead of the sandwich.

Big story.

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LWW
02-19-2012, 04:53 AM
See ... according to Snoopy it wasn't even satire, it was exactly what I said ... dear leader knows what's best for us.

Soflasnapper
02-19-2012, 12:45 PM
are you realizing that through the deft of satire I have used a little absurdity to expose how absurd your beloved regime has become?

The deft use of lying, you mean?

This is a STATE program that no one has shown was put in place through federal government involvement, pressure, or subsidy.

It's the result of an opt-in program, which parents may chose to opt for or not for their children.

No state official or contractor for DHHS was involved, upon review of the case.

There is no apparent '2nd person' despite the headline of The Blaze (ragsheet) you link to-- or at least the article doesn't have any detail of anything. In THE SAME INCIDENT, some other lunches were looked at, and none of those children were told to go get a (free) milk (under this state program) to supplement up the food group mix of the lunch, except the same single girl who was the subject of the laughably distorted claims of the first report.

LWW
02-19-2012, 05:03 PM
Why do you expect people to fall for your trickery?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The girl’s turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice <span style='font-size: 11pt'>did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines</span>, according to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that day.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs — including in-home day care centers — to meet USDA guidelines.</span></div></div>

Although it was a local teacher, they were acting under the regulations set forth by the federal gubmint.

Soflasnapper
02-19-2012, 07:53 PM
No, whoever was acting there was acting under the regulations set forward by the North Carolina State Dept. of Health and Human Services.

It was the state of North Carolina that imposed meeting the USDA requirements on lunches provided by pre-K schools.

Dollars to doughnuts, this was put in place before 2009, and has nothing to do with the current federal government. (A prediction, not something I know for sure.)

Or show how the Obamas, in particular FLOTUS Obama, forced, coerced, tricked, strong-armed, or influenced in the slightest way, the NC state legislature, or the NC state DHHS, to make this requirement.