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LWW
02-23-2012, 08:03 AM
Things that they are outraged over. (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378133&gonew=1#UNREAD)

Things that they are not outraged over. (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=363731&fpart=1)

RELEASE THE CRICKETS!

Qtec
02-23-2012, 08:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sarah Palin: Hang Penn State's 'perverted former assistant coach' </div></div>

What happened to 'innocent till proven guilty'?

Q

Qtec
02-23-2012, 08:16 AM
Its the Presidential Republican candidates that have no credibility.

Where were they on religious freedom when there was a big hysteria about a Mosque in the vicinity of Ground Zero?

Q

Soflasnapper
02-23-2012, 10:30 AM
I think my original answer still is best:

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>I will admit that I have fallen down on the task of scouring the nets to find things that were reported today or yesterday to be outraged over.

I apologize to the outrage machine, and all its acolytes.
</span>

Thank God we have ol' Lar' to guide us to our next daily outraged two minute hate reading!

First, how does it feel to be part of the dystopian future of that book, and why was your character written out in the final draft?

Second, while we appreciate your efforts, it's kinda like what detectives in the police force experience, when they're always seeing such degradation and evil. It does something to you, deep inside, and you may never be the same. Take care, my friend, and stay thirsty!

LWW
02-23-2012, 04:17 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What happened to 'innocent till proven guilty'?

Q </div></div>

You are the most convincing evidence of your own guilt.

LWW
02-23-2012, 04:18 PM
You probably haven't even read the book, but your confession to the charge I presented is duly noted.

JohnnyD
02-24-2012, 12:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Things that they are outraged over. (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378133&gonew=1#UNREAD)

Things that they are not outraged over. (http://www.billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=363731&fpart=1)

RELEASE THE CRICKETS! </div></div> You are exposing the truth yet again Mahatma LWW.Truth will set them free.Many are afraid of the truth.You however embrace it and preach the word of the truth.Thank you sir for giving us a very wonderful forum.Jesus loves you.

JohnnyD
02-24-2012, 12:49 AM
Yet another truth uncovered.Your investigative techniques are second to none.Scotland yard would be proud of you.Jesus has guided you to see the light.

DiabloViejo
02-24-2012, 02:15 PM
Where's the right wing outrage over stuff like this? Oh, sorry I forgot..you guys get a pass on everything when YOU do it.


http://www.webmastertalkforums.com/attachments/lounge/1598d1310788605-obama-just-like-hitler-yo.jpg



http://thetruthisnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/obama_hitler_stalin.jpg

DiabloViejo
02-24-2012, 02:23 PM
Nope, no outrage over this either:

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt122/Goldyfan/obama/165207_190obama_nazi.jpg

http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/obama-nazi2.jpg

http://einhornpress.com/images/obama%20hitler.jpg

DiabloViejo
02-24-2012, 02:38 PM
A few more for our resident hypocrites.

Definition of HYPOCRITE
Merriam-Webster Online (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite)

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

— hypocrite adjective

Examples of HYPOCRITE

the hypocrites who criticize other people for not voting but who don't always vote themselves

We can learn a good deal about the manners and morals of the times from Lautrec, for he was neither a hypocrite nor a sentimentalist, and there is a matter-of-fact-ness about his vision … that precludes both nostalgia and prurience. —Elizabeth Cowling, Times Literary Supplement, 8 Nov. 1991

Origin of HYPOCRITE

Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
First Known Use: 13th century

http://bajurtov.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/obama-arab-nazi.jpg

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/greg/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/obama-nazi-hitler-288x300.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9VGZjBQHr0s/ScomgYdaS-I/AAAAAAAADAE/3mcs1YByfu4/s400/ObamaYouth2.jpg

LWW
02-24-2012, 07:47 PM
Would you like to discuss the many similarities between Hotler's NAZI party platform and Obama's demokrook party platform?

I didn't think so.

DiabloViejo
02-24-2012, 07:59 PM
Nope. Like I've told you before..until an American President has committed mass slaughter on the scale of Hitler and the Nazis, or Stalin, and the commies, any comparison to either is sick, perverted, and dishonors the memory of their victims. I have no intention of getting into the pigsty and frolicking in the mud with you, or anyone else, on this matter.

You know it's wrong and you didn't like it when it was done to Bush (neither did I), but instead of taking the high road you stick to the low road. Like they say..two wrongs don't make a right.

Now get it straight Obama is not anything even remotely close to Hitler, and neither was Bush or any other American president, so stop with the BS.

DiabloViejo
02-24-2012, 08:39 PM
Just for you LWW:

Reductio ad Hitlerum
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum)

Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, (Latin for "reduction to" and "argument to" and dog Latin for "Hitler" respectively) is an ad hominem or ad misericordiam argument whereby an opponent's view is compared to a view that would be held by Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party. It is a fallacy of irrelevance, in which a conclusion is suggested based solely on something's or someone's origin rather than its current meaning. The suggested logic is one of guilt by association.

Its name is a variation on reductio ad absurdum, and was coined by political philosopher Leo Strauss, in 1953. Engaging in this fallacy is sometimes known as playing the Nazi card,[1] by analogy to playing the race card. The tactic is often used to derail arguments, because such comparisons tend to distract and anger the opponent.[1] While an ad Hitlerum is often used to directly compare a statement to a view held by Hitler, it can be used informally to compare any thing to any other thing. The term ad Hitlerum can be used to describe most association fallacies.

Fallacious nature of the argument

Reductio ad Hitlerum is no more than guilt by association, a form of association fallacy.[1][2] The fallacy claims that a policy leads to—or is the same as—one advocated or implemented by Adolf Hitler or the Third Reich, and so "proves" that the original policy is undesirable. For example: "Hitler loved animals, so animal protection is a fascist activity ." Used broadly enough, ad Hitlerum can encompass more than one questionable cause fallacy type, by both inverting cause and effect and by linking an alleged cause to wholly unrelated consequences. Hitler was fond of dogs and children, but to argue that affection for dogs and children is wrong on this basis is not logically sound.

Various criminals, controversial religious and political figures, regimes, and atrocities other than those caused by Hitler, the Nazis and the Holocaust can be used for the same purposes. For example, a reductio ad Stalinum could assert that atheism is a dangerous philosophy because Stalin was an atheist for most of his life.[3]

The fallacious nature of reductio ad Hitlerum is easily illustrated by identifying X as something that Adolf Hitler or his supporters did promote but which is not considered unethical, such as painting, enjoying classical music, or owning dogs. Misapplication of the fallacy has also been criticised for rejecting reasonable comparisons. By invoking reductio ad Hitlerum, an opponent's view is ridiculed even though the comparison may be relevant.[4][not in citation given]

[b]History of the term

The phrase reductio ad Hitlerum is first known to have appeared in University of Chicago professor Leo Strauss's 1953[5] book, Natural Right and History, Chapter II:
In following this movement towards its end we shall inevitably reach a point beyond which the scene is darkened by the shadow of Hitler. Unfortunately, it does not go without saying that in our examination we must avoid the fallacy that in the last decades has frequently been used as a substitute for the reductio ad absurdum: the reductio ad Hitlerum. A view is not refuted by the fact that it happens to have been shared by Hitler.

The phrase was derived from the legitimate logical argument called reductio ad absurdum. The argumentum variant takes its form from the names of many classic fallacies, such as argumentum ad hominem. The ad Nazium variant may be further derived, humorously, from argumentum ad nauseam.
In 2000 traditionalist Catholic Thomas Fleming described its use against traditional values:

Leo Strauss called it the reductio ad Hitlerum. If Hitler liked neoclassical art, that means that classicism in every form is Nazi; if Hitler wanted to strengthen the German family, that makes the traditional family (and its defenders) Nazi; if Hitler spoke of the "nation" or the "folk," then any invocation of nationality, ethnicity, or even folkishness is Nazi ...[6]

Invocations of the fallacy

In 1991, Professor Michael André Bernstein alleged reductio ad Hitlerum over a full-page advertisement placed in The New York Times by the Lubavitch community, following the Crown Heights Riot, under the heading "This Year Kristallnacht Took Place on August 19th Right Here in Crown Heights." Henry Schwarzschild, who had witnessed Kristallnacht, wrote to the New York Times that "however ugly were the anti-Semitic slogans and the assaultive behavior of people in the streets [during the Crown Heights riots]... one thing that clearly did not take place was a Kristallnacht."[7]

American conservative radio host Glenn Beck is often criticized for his frequent use of reductio ad Hitlerum, including a controversial statement comparing the victims of the 2011 Norway attacks to members of the Hitler Youth.[8][9][10][11][12][13]

See also:

Godwin's law
Hannibal ad portas ("Hannibal is at the gates") – previous invocation of historical threat
List of fallacies
Feminazi

References:

1. ^ a b c Curtis, Gary N. (2004). "Logical Fallacy: The Hitler Card". Fallacy Files. Retrieved 2007-10-08.
2. ^ Curtis, Gary N. (2004). "Logical Fallacy: Guilt by Association". Fallacy Files. Retrieved 2007-10-08.
3.^ Tobin, Paul N. (2004). "Hitler, Stalin and Atheism". Rejection of Pascal's Wager: A Skeptic's Guide to Christianity. Archived from the original on 2007-10-14. Retrieved 2007-11-24.
4.^ http://www.nhinet.org/parabos.htm
5.^ "Natural Right and History". University of Oklahoma. 2008. Retrieved 2008-08-11.
6.^ Thomas Fleming, editor, Chronicles (Rockford, Illinois), May 2000, p. 11.
7.^ "Foregone Conclusions". Escholarship.org. Retrieved 2011-07-07.
8.^ Time. 2011-07-26. http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/26/glen...-hitler-youth/. (http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/26/glenn-beck-site-of-norway-massacre-sounds-like-the-hitler-youth/.)
9.^ Sponsored by (2010-10-04). "His Struggle: Glenn Beck's Hitler fetish". The Economist. Retrieved 2011-07-07.
10.^ "Back in Black - Glenn Beck's Nazi Tourette's - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 05/12/10 - Video Clip | Comedy Central". Thedailyshow.com. 2010-05-12. Retrieved 2011-07-07.
11.^ — Z.P.. "Glenn Beck Uses Auschwitz To Promote His New Media Venture | Media Matters for America". Mediamatters.org. Retrieved 2011-07-07.
12.^ Duboff, Josh. "Lewis Black Exposes Glenn Beck’s ‘Nazi Tourette’s’ - Daily Intel". Nymag.com. Retrieved 2011-07-07.
13.^ Milbank, Dana (2010-10-03). "Glenn Beck is obsessed with Hitler and Woodrow Wilson. (I'm just saying.)". Washingtonpost.com. Retrieved 2011-07-07.

11 People Accused of Being Hitler (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/10/wtf-people-who-have-unfai_n_606810.html#s98556&title=Jesus_Christ_)

Is it ever OK to call someone a Nazi? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10618638)

Toying With Hitler and History (http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-60763.html) \

Playing The Nazi Card (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4022)

Stretch
02-24-2012, 10:34 PM
Well played Diablo. You are obviously well versed in LWW's BS. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif St.

cushioncrawler
02-25-2012, 01:42 AM
But what would Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeezarse do???????
mac.

LWW
02-25-2012, 05:16 AM
QUESTION:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you like to discuss the many similarities between Hotler's NAZI party platform and Obama's demokrook party platform?

I didn't think so. </div></div>

ANSWER:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope.</div></div>

Thanks for having my back again.

Oh, BTW, your ramblings about genocide have no bearing on what I ask ... nor do they cover your intellectual bankruptcy on the topic.

But ... you did your duty as an O-cultist and made a lame attempt to hide that Obama is every bit as much a fascist as Hitler was.

The fact that you attempt to throw genocidal racism into the mix shows a very low level of understanding on your part.

Genocidal racism does not equal fascism, although it is a common trait of leftist regimes ... and nobody has claimed Obama to be a genocidal racist.

Next ridiculous claim you would like swatted down?

Stretch
02-25-2012, 07:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">QUESTION:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you like to discuss the many similarities between Hotler's NAZI party platform and Obama's demokrook party platform?

I didn't think so. </div></div>

ANSWER:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope.</div></div>

Thanks for having my back again.

Oh, BTW, your ramblings about genocide have no bearing on what I ask ... nor do they cover your intellectual bankruptcy on the topic.

But ... you did your duty as an O-cultist and made a lame attempt to hide that Obama is every bit as much a fascist as Hitler was.

The fact that you attempt to throw genocidal racism into the mix shows a very low level of understanding on your part.

Genocidal racism does not equal fascism, although it is a common trait of leftist regimes ... and nobody has claimed Obama to be a genocidal racist.

Next ridiculous claim you would like swatted down? </div></div>

What a joke you are. There is nothing to disprove, because nothing was proved. Next false outrage please, this one didn't even get out of the gate. St.

LWW
02-25-2012, 07:15 AM
Thanks for having my back and proving my point again.

You guys are just great.

DiabloViejo
02-25-2012, 03:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for having my back and proving my point again.
</div></div>

LOL! Now you are reduced to arguing like a peevish 8 year old repeating the same dumb line over and over. Brilliant! What's next? Are you going to try the childish "I know you are, but what am I" line?

Dude, seriously--grow up! And while you're at it, take that huge bug out from up in your posterior! Maybe that's what's causing all the "cricket" sounds you're hearing. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

http://www.therundown.tv/wp-content/photos/biggestbug43.jpg

DiabloViejo
02-25-2012, 03:53 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">QUESTION:

[quote=LWW]Would you like to discuss the many similarities between Hotler's NAZI party platform and Obama's demokrook party platform?

I didn't think so. </div></div>

ANSWER:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope.</div></div>

"<u>You</u> don't get to pick and choose what part of <u>my </u>words you quote. So here, let me fix that quote for you <u>here is what I actually said</u>:

"Nope. Like I've told you before..until an American President has committed mass slaughter on the scale of Hitler and the Nazis, or Stalin, and the commies, any comparison to either is sick, perverted, and dishonors the memory of their victims. I have no intention of getting into the pigsty and frolicking in the mud with you, or anyone else, on this matter.

You know it's wrong and you didn't like it when it was done to Bush (neither did I), but instead of taking the high road you stick to the low road. Like they say..two wrongs don't make a right.

Now get it straight Obama is not anything even remotely close to Hitler, and neither was Bush or any other American president, so stop with the BS."

You can now go back to your rantings about "evil cabals", "moral bankruptcy", "O-cultists" and the rest of your usual nonsense. BTW, I really have to ask you..did you learn all your gibberish on your own, or did this guy teach you?:
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0&feature=share)

LWW
02-26-2012, 07:09 AM
How about gain some cred and actually address the issue ... why do leftists get their shorts all in a wad, on command from regime central, over far less offensive things than what the take no offense over?

What's that?

We both already know the answer?

I know.