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03-12-2012, 07:25 PM
How about freedom from religion?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">New Bill Aims to Repeal Louisiana's Anti-Evolution Law

Karen Carter Peterson, a state senator in Louisiana, wants to make sure evolution is taught in science classes. Last week, Peterson introduced a bill that would repeal a four-year-old state law that encourages teachers to critique science such as evolution and global warming. The repeal effort, the second one in the state in the last year, represents the latest in a broader pushback against anti-evolution laws passed since 2008.

Louisiana's Science Education Act, passed in 2008, was the first of its kind to be approved in a state legislature. It claims to promote "critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning." Attempts to pass similar legislation, which are often called "Academic Freedom" bills, have failed in a number of other states including Iowa, Florida, Oklahoma, and New Hampshire. My colleagues James West and Tim McDonnell have reported on parents' and teachers' efforts to push back against climate-change deniers in the classroom in Vermont, Washington, and Connecticut. </div></div>

So, no contraception, no sex, no abortion, no GW, no evolution, no genetics, no science....etc

Geez, doesn't really sound like these religious types are oppressed, more like the are oppressor.

Others agree.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Louisiana Science Education Act would similarly hardwire into science curricula a sense of the "continuing controversy" around the theory of evolution. Scientists, meanwhile, are fighting to repeal the Louisiana law and take states to task for their science teaching standards. In a January report looking at how evolution is taught across the country, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>the Thomas Fordham Institute found that while "Louisiana's science standards are reasonably challenging and comprehensive," <u>its science classrooms "are haunted by anti-science influences that threaten biology education in the state."</u></span>

A number of Nobel laureates agree. In a letter sent to the Louisiana State Legislature last year, scientists like Sir Richard Roberts and chemist Sir Harry Kroto argued that "Louisiana's students deserve to be taught proper science rather than religion presented as science." Some <span style='font-size: 14pt'>75 scientists have endorsed the letter, which states that, "Science offers testable, and therefore falsifiable, explanations for natural phenomena.</span> <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Because it requires supernatural explanations of natural phenomena, creationism does not meet these standards."</span> </div></div>


03-12-2012, 08:29 PM
It gets worse.

link (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/07/01/256823/pregnant-women-criminal-charges/)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Across the US more and more prosecutions are being brought that seek to turn pregnant women into criminals.[...]

In Alabama at least 40 cases have been brought under the state’s “chemical endangerment” law. Introduced in 2006, the statute was designed to protect children whose parents were cooking methamphetamine in the home and thus putting their children at risk from inhaling the fumes. Amanda Kimbrough is one of the women who have been ensnared as a result of the law being applied in a wholly different way.[...]

The baby was delivered by caesarean section prematurely in April 2008 and died 19 minutes after birth. Six months later Kimbrough was arrested at home and charged with “chemical endangerment” of her unborn child on the grounds that she had taken drugs during the pregnancy – a claim she has denied.

“That shocked me, it really did,” Kimbrough said. “I had lost a child, that was enough.”

Kimbrough is now facing a 10-year sentence if her case is not reversed on appeal — a 10 year sentence that will deprive her three other children of their mother.

A common tactic by prosecutors is singling out a group of women who are unlikely to draw public sympathy — women who may have used drugs while pregnant — to blur the line between abortion and homicide. Rennie Gibbs, for example, was 15 when she became pregnant and lost her baby in a stillbirth. Prosecutors charged her with a “depraved heart murder” after they discovered she had used cocaine, although there was “no evidence that drug abuse had anything to do with the baby’s death.” She now faces life in prison in Mississippi. </div></div>

See also link (http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/miscarriage-murder-and-forgotten-women)


03-12-2012, 09:39 PM
That's what happens when a political party flings open the door to the lunatic fringe. The GOP is now awash in militant Christian Dominionists. The dominionists are the Christian equivalent of the Taliban, and like the taliban they want to establish their own version of "sharia". This all started way back when Reagan decided to court the Moral Majority (who were neither moral nor a majority).

03-13-2012, 08:19 AM
Imagine a guy runs to the ammo store because he needs to load because some guys are breaking into his house.

Ammo guy: Are you going to use this ammo to shoot someone?
Guy; You bet your a$$.
Ammo guy: Sorry. Can't help you. Its against my religion.......?