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DiabloViejo
03-15-2012, 03:28 PM
The New Jim Crow has these folks thinking they can call someone a ni***r and dare anyone to say something about it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426052_10150607745887862_114119057861_9011314_1515 959148_n.jpg

DiabloViejo
03-15-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm sure that someone will show up to tell us how it's the liberals that are all a bunch of racists. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

http://www.stumpysstickers.com/obama2012sticker.jpg

http://www.stumpysstickers.com/dontrenigin2012small.jpg

eg8r
03-15-2012, 06:36 PM
That sticker makes me sick. It is a shame that there are still people in this day and age that think/act/talk this way.

eg8r

eg8r
03-15-2012, 06:37 PM
That looks like somethings the left did for Bush, and the liberals had no problem with it. I see the hypocrisy and don't like either side doing this.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
03-16-2012, 09:18 AM
The left did not attack W on racial grounds, nor did they use racist puns to attack him. (Although they did use a chimpanzee to represent him, often, that isn't racist as to white people.)

In terms of bad taste imagery or language, it would have been a pun on 'bush.'

eg8r
03-16-2012, 12:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The left did not attack W on racial grounds,</div></div>I get it...you will defend Obama to the end. These same types of things were used against Bush and none of the left had a problem with it.

Again, I don't think it is right no matter who is doing it.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
03-16-2012, 01:03 PM
Remarking that no racist attacks were made on the white man Bush is not a defense of Obama. Where do you get that from?

Very poor logic, if that's what you're using.

eg8r
03-16-2012, 06:36 PM
When was the last time you heard a white person claim someone made a racist remark about them? I am referring to the stickers with a monkey on them. That was done to Bush and you guys cheered. It is done to Obama and you wet your pants. It is hypocritical and I don't think either side should be doing it.

eg8r

DiabloViejo
03-16-2012, 07:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When was the last time you heard a white person claim someone made a racist remark about them? I am referring to the stickers with a monkey on them. That was done to Bush and you guys cheered. It is done to Obama and you wet your pants. It is hypocritical and I don't think either side should be doing it.

eg8r </div></div>

When you make sweeping, generalized, and untrue statements like "That was done to Bush and you guys cheered" you are wrong. Some people did, some didn't.

Here is the complete text of a post I submitted on AZ billiards NPR forum back in 2006 under my AZ user name Secaucus Fats. Please tell me if it sounds like I was cheering, or if rather, I was using humor to call for more civil discourse.

<span style="color: #FF0000">07-18-2006, 12:26 PM

The loud blaring of the alarm clock radio roused Phillip Stone from his sleep. He was pale and sweaty, a consequence no doubt, of the nightmare which had once again perturbed him as he laid in the grip of Morpheus’s strong embrace. Damn G W Bush! He knew that his fitful sleep was caused by Bush’s fascist brain manipulation device.

As he made his way to the bathroom his right hand found its way down his boxers and he began to scratch his scrotum. The itching and chafing from the jock itch was almost unbearable! Equally unbearable was his anger at the knowledge that G W Bush had sedated him until he had fallen unconscious and had ordered his goons to apply a dose of tinea cruris to his groin thereby causing the dreaded jock itch. He shivered at the thought of millions of hapless fellow citizens who had befallen the same fate from the maniacal jackbooted thug masquerading as President.

Once in the bathroom Phillip removed his t shirt and boxers then relieved himself. He washed his hands then proceeded to brush his teeth and shave. Next he turned on the shower, adjusted the temperature of the water to his liking, and stepped into the shower. He shampooed his hair and rinsed it then began to lather himself liberally. Suddenly the water turned cold. AAaaaaaaarrrrghhhh ! Godamned BUSH!! The bastard had done something to Phillip’s water heater! Phillip cursed the fates for having allowed Bush and his evil cronies to wield such incredibly far reaching power, as he did so, he rinsed himself off quickly with the now ice cold water emanating from the showerhead.

Phillip quickly dressed for work and went into the kitchen to fix himself a cup of Joe and a buttered roll. He was tempted to turn on the TV but thought better of it. He could no longer bear all the news of world wide mayhem, pestilence, storms, disease, injustice, homophobia, animal cruelty, possible asteroid collisions, alien abductions, and the increasing rate of obesity, ALL CREATED BY BUSH AND HIS BASTARD ILLUMINATI CABAL! He quickly finished his coffee and roll, grabbed his keys and cell phone, and headed out for another day at the office.

Phillip eased his car out of the driveway and made his way to the turnpike for his daily commute. As he drove down the turnpike he noticed that the “check engine” light had come on. G W had struck again! Son of a bit*h when would it end? Dear God, when would it ever end?

Phillip had never been the type of man given to displays of emotion, but now, as he felt the rage build up inside of him, he began to cry. The hot tears streamed down his face and burned his cheeks as his blood pressure began to skyrocket to dangerous levels.

Phillip awoke in the hospital. An IV drip was going into his left arm. A cardiac monitor was recording his heart functions, blood pressure and pulse rate.

He pressed the nurse call button, and a minute or so later, a nurse appeared and asked how he was feeling. He replied that he was feeling OK, but he was thirsty. The nurse said that she would get him some cold water to drink.

As the nurse was about to leave the room she cheerfully told Phillip: "Mr. Stone I have some exciting news for you..President Bush and Dick Cheney are visiting the hospital today and they will be stopping by this ward to say hello to each and every patient!" The nurse then stepped out of the room. Phillip began to feel his eyes welling up again.
Last edited by Secaucus Fats; 07-18-2006 at 01:55 PM.

BTW here is the link. (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=36548&highlight=blaring+alarm+clock+Bush) </span>

eg8r
03-17-2012, 02:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When you make sweeping, generalized, and untrue statements like "That was done to Bush and you guys cheered" you are wrong. Some people did, some didn't.
</div></div>I'll tell you one thing, if this isn't at least a glimmer of hope for the left I don't know what is. Wow, one person from the left who tells us he was against the monkey references for bush without ever actually mentioning those examples. I am not saying it is any "shining" star but a glimmer, well just maybe.

eg8r

LWW
03-19-2012, 04:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The left did not attack W on racial grounds, nor did they use racist puns to attack him. (Although they did use a chimpanzee to represent him, often, that isn't racist as to white people.)</div></div>

To believe that claim is an implicit admission that one believes a black man is closer to a chimp than a white man is.

Sev
03-19-2012, 06:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The New Jim Crow has these folks thinking they can call someone a ni***r and dare anyone to say something about it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426052_10150607745887862_114119057861_9011314_1515 959148_n.jpg </div></div>

Can you prove that SUV is not owned by a disgruntled Democrat??

Soflasnapper
03-19-2012, 12:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When was the last time you heard a white person claim someone made a racist remark about them? I am referring to the stickers with a monkey on them. That was done to Bush and you guys cheered. It is done to Obama and you wet your pants. It is hypocritical and I don't think either side should be doing it.

eg8r </div></div>

To the consternation of white racists, it is the thin-lipped mouths of white people that more closely resemble the mouths of the great apes, as those animals basically do not have much in the way of visible lips.

That is, the far larger lips more typical of blacks show they are FURTHER evolved from the common ancestors thought to have branched to the various hominids than closer to them (as the white racists hold).

In the case of Bush, he was famously very thin-lipped, and his upper lip strongly resembled that of chimps, as did various of his facial expressions. That this was the case was made quite clear with a collage of pics of him and various chimps making the same facial expressions, which I presume you saw, as it made the rounds frequently.

That, and the collateral claim of overall stupidity, made for the popularity of the comparison.

However, comparing blacks to chimps is a white racist trope, period. Ignoring the fact that chimps have no lips, and a lot of body hair (whereas black men have large lips, and a relative lack of body hair), to concentrate on the noses being flatter and broader, and to call an entire race stupid or closer to those animals than to humans, so as to excuse oppressing and brutalizing them (for their own good, of course!).

Soflasnapper
03-19-2012, 12:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The left did not attack W on racial grounds, nor did they use racist puns to attack him. (Although they did use a chimpanzee to represent him, often, that isn't racist as to white people.)</div></div>

To believe that claim is an implicit admission that one believes a black man is closer to a chimp than a white man is. </div></div>

No, it's to acknowledge that is the theory and back story for white racists' belief along those lines.

DiabloViejo
03-19-2012, 03:42 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The New Jim Crow has these folks thinking they can call someone a ni***r and dare anyone to say something about it. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426052_10150607745887862_114119057861_9011314_1515 959148_n.jpg </div></div>

Can you prove that SUV is not owned by a disgruntled Democrat?? </div></div>

Are these the doings of "disgruntled democrats"?:
http://brotherpeacemaker.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/teaparty_robertson_spelling_racist_problem.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k_ICSkAB1hk/TFLHr3MEQrI/AAAAAAAAF30/8DlGkEZMpsY/s1600/racist.jpg

http://blog.reidreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/tea-party-racist-signs-07-white-slavery.jpg
http://blog.reidreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/teapartysign.jpg
http://www.bobcesca.com/images/racist_email_teabagger.jpg

DiabloViejo
03-19-2012, 04:01 PM
And if racism weren't bad enough, right wingers repeatedly call for mass murder of liberals on various different social media. One of our resident hate filled bags of pus recently recently wished that I would die or commit suicide because of my liberal views.

Here's an example of what the toxic right wing ideology does to people:

http://www.alan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/awful-e1288733814509.png

eg8r
03-19-2012, 06:30 PM
If I am being totally honest, I would think the dude in the picture with the hat and the disagreeing poster is definitely a plant. When you look at someone trying to impersonate someone they generally go way overboard to the point you know they are a fake.

eg8r

DiabloViejo
03-19-2012, 06:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I am being totally honest, I would think the dude in the picture with the hat and the disagreeing poster is definitely a plant. When you look at someone trying to impersonate someone they generally go way overboard to the point you know they are a fake.

eg8r </div></div>

Nah, his name is Dale Robertson and he is the self-proclaimed founder of the Tea Party movement. Here is a link: Dale Robertson (http://www.mediaite.com/online/tea-party-leader-that-claimed-no-slurs-now-famous-for-n-word-sign/)

And this is his pic from an interview on RT news:
http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Dale_Robertson-300x217.jpg

eg8r
03-19-2012, 07:15 PM
LOL, there are so many founders it is hilarious. Talk about grass roots.

Anyways, the way this guy represents himself he is doing more harm for himself and for those he rallies against.

eg8r