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LWW
03-31-2012, 06:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Things are seldom as they are made to appear. J

Posted 2012-03-30 23:34
by Karl Denninger

NBC Is The Skittle Network

Are you*****ed off yet? You will be.

NBC News is being excoriated in some circles – with competitor Fox News Channel leading the charge – for selectively editing audio of the 911 call placed by George Zimmerman just before he killed Trayvon Martin.

Yep. They got caught too.

In the NBC segment, Zimmerman says: <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”</span>

So Zimmerman is a racist, right? Uh, not quite.

The full version, though, unfolds like this:

Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”

911 operator: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”

Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

What do you call it when the media invents things? That's not reporting folks.

Maybe NBC is trying to incite a race riot. Or maybe it's just pure slander. Incidentally there's no defense available to a news organization (or any journalist) when they intentionally do something like this. Zimmerman ought to consider suing their ass to somewhere beyond the orbit of Mars.

More to the point, however, this sort of invention of a conversation that never happened by splicing together two pieces of tape means that nothing the media is telling you can be accepted as true without independent proof irrespective of which side of the debate the alleged "report" is on.

While we're at it I have some more questions, but I'll keep it to just two for right now. Both would help understand what actually happened that night, and neither, to my knowledge, has been investigated and reported upon.

Let's ask "why not?"

First, ABC reported that Trayvon's body was kept in the morgue as a "John Doe" for three days. However, Martin's father called the Sanford police department the morning after the shooting when he noted his son was not home, and they came out and made the identification. Where did that discrepancy come from and was ABC trying to intentionally smear the Sanford police department? There is an adjunct question to this -- we know Trayvon had a cellphone with him because he was allegedly talking with his girlfriend. Were there numbers with the tags "Mom" and "Dad" in it? Wouldn't you have expected the police to look over what was inventoried, assuming that Trayvon wasn't carrying ID and call any obvious contact number such as one tagged "Mom" or "Dad"? Now maybe the cellphone had a passcode on it or something similar, but there's an obvious open question on the delay in identification and contact with the parents, and it deserves an answer.

Second, Trayvon Martin was allegedly out at night, on foot and in a rainstorm getting iced tea and skittles. Ok, here's the address where the altercation took place from the police report:

2381 Retreat View Cir
Sanford, FL 32771

Now go to Google Maps and type in that address.

Next, find me a convenience store -- you know, a place to buy skittles and an iced tea. Just type in "convenience store" in the "Search Nearby" box.

Where's the closest one and how far is it on foot?

In a rainstorm, for a bag of skittles and can of iced tea, both ways? Possible? Sure. Plausible? That story ought to be able to be checked, and rather easily -- all convenience stores these days have video recorders.

So has anyone checked to see if indeed the deceased hiked the anywhere from 2-4 miles to and from one of the half-dozen convenience stores in the general area (none closer than about a mile on foot, incidentally, and all somewhat of a pain in the ass to get to due to what appears to be a limited access highway -- 417 -- between the location and the stores which would force you to walk quite a bit further than you could go "as the crow flies".)

These are pretty basic questions. In fact the closest convenience store is a Murphy USA; to reach the others north of the location (the ones south are a LOT further) you'd have to walk past it, so it's highly likely that's the store -- if the story of going out for skittles and iced tea holds up.

Does it? Has anyone checked?

We'll start there; I've got more queued up. </div></div>

This is where someone argues that just because the media made it up to increase ratings via race baiting doesn't mean that the media made it up to increase ratings via race baiting.

Soflasnapper
03-31-2012, 10:41 AM
Yes, why isn't the media taking the sound reportorial lead of Glenn Beck's site The Blaze and asking the important question, how do we know TM wasn't a kidnapping arsonist???? (Actual question they raised in THEIR 'reporting'!?!!??!!!)

The apparently intellectually challenged Mr. Denninger may not realize that besides convenience stores, GAS STATIONS and DRUG STORES also carry beverages and candy varieties, so apparently didn't google map search on gas stations or drug stores closer? Nor realize that only law enforcement could compel compliance with a fishing expedition look at random store videos, or that such videos are routinely recycled after some weeks gone by, making such a look-see potentially impossible at such long remove from the events?

Denninger also ignores the right blogosphere's own pimping of a gangsta facebook image of the wrong TM (cf: Malkin's newest site), and various other race-based attacks from the right, which Joe Scarborough has denounced on-air as 'beneath contempt.'

There's an old adage, never attribute to malice what can be otherwise explained as due to ignorance, laziness, and gross error. The media of both sides has ample evidence of ALL the above, meaning, ignorance, laziness, gross error, AND malice. Parsing out which is most in play in a given situation is fraught with difficulty.

Denninger also leaves out the known quote from the 9-11 call, 'these assholes always get away,' and the muttered sotto voce, 'f*ckin' coon(s)' or 'f*ckin' goon(s).' If it was the latter, I've heard someone on the right 'explain' that 'in today's youth argot, 'goon' is an endearment.'

Checking, .7 miles to the Walmart, .8 miles to the Target, from that street address.

LWW
03-31-2012, 03:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, why isn't the media taking the sound reportorial lead of Glenn Beck's site The Blaze and asking the important question, how do we know TM wasn't a kidnapping arsonist???? (Actual question they raised in THEIR 'reporting'!?!!??!!!)</div></div>

Are you familiar with what suspicious even means?

LWW
03-31-2012, 03:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The apparently intellectually challenged Mr. Denninger may not realize that besides convenience stores, GAS STATIONS and DRUG STORES also carry beverages and candy varieties, so apparently didn't google map search on gas stations or drug stores closer?</div></div>

Yes they do ... they are called convenience stores.

Soflasnapper
03-31-2012, 04:33 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, why isn't the media taking the sound reportorial lead of Glenn Beck's site The Blaze and asking the important question, how do we know TM wasn't a kidnapping arsonist???? (Actual question they raised in THEIR 'reporting'!?!!??!!!)</div></div>

Are you familiar with what suspicious even means? </div></div>

Why, yes, as a literate native speaker of English, I'm aware of what most common words mean. Why do you ask?

It's suspicious that TM supposedly went to a local market, you're saying, I gather, because he had an ice tea and Skittles on his person at the time of his slaying?

Perhaps broke into a neighbor's house and got them there, you mean?

Have you heard the expression, 'grasping at straws'? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

llotter
03-31-2012, 09:59 PM
One thing that I haven't heard any followup on was the screwdriver that Trayvon was reported to be carrying and if there was any connection to the purported robberies in the area.

Qtec
04-01-2012, 02:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that I haven't heard any followup on was the screwdriver that Trayvon was reported to be carrying and if there was any connection to the purported robberies in the area. </div></div>

He didn't have a screwdriver. Even if he did, its irrelevant to the shooting. Zimmerman is not a cop.

Q

LWW
04-01-2012, 05:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do you ask?</div></div>

Because you repeatedly display a stunning level of ignorance as to the meanings of words whenever the regime demands it of you.

LWW
04-01-2012, 05:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He didn't have a screwdriver. Even if he did, its irrelevant to the shooting. Zimmerman is not a cop.

Q </div></div>

Are you actually claiming tat only the po-po have a right to self defense?

Qtec
04-01-2012, 05:18 AM
Who was chasing who here?

Q

Stretch
04-01-2012, 06:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who was chasing who here?

Q </div></div>

Know one, just LWW chasing his tail again. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif St.

Soflasnapper
04-01-2012, 12:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that I haven't heard any followup on was the screwdriver that Trayvon was reported to be carrying and if there was any connection to the purported robberies in the area. </div></div>

Said to have been found in his book bags when they were looked at in school, which is 200 miles away from Sanford.

There is no indication that TM had his book bags on him at this time, nor that they were in the house of his father, nor that he had anything like that on his person when found slain. It would have been very much mentioned by Z and his side if it had been (as it would then make TM 'armed' and more clearly dangerous).

Nor is there any evidence we know of that TM had been at his father's home for any time except for the suspension, nor any evidence that the 'many burglaries' that had occurred had occurred even one time in the brief number of days he had been there.