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Gayle in MD
04-19-2012, 11:53 AM
Sunday Show Guests Skew Conservative: FAIR Study

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Sunday talk shows are tilted in favor of conservative guests, a new study by the left-wing media watchdog FAIR asserts.

Sunday morning shows are routinely raked over the coals for the lack of racial and ethnic diversity in the makeup of their guests. FAIR's latest study repeats another regular complaint: that the guests skew unacceptably conservative.

FAIR looked at all of the guests on "Meet the Press," "This Week," "Face the Nation" and "Fox News Sunday" from June 2011 through February 2012. It found that 70 percent of the identifiably partisan one-on-one guests interviewed on the shows were Republicans. Roundtable guests were found to be similarly, if not as drastically, slanted.

It's true that these statistics coincided with a very colorful Republican presidential primary season, with no Democratic contest to match it. But FAIR cited studies from a comparable period in 2003, when Democrats had all of the primary action. Those studies found that, even then, the guests leaned right.

FAIR's Peter Hart wrote that the networks "would never say that they aim to provide a very narrow, very white and male, overwhelmingly conservative view of the world to their viewers every Sunday morning. But that's precisely what they do."




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I've been saying this for decades. Is there anyone in Washington D.C. who didn't know that Dick Gregory is as right wing as they come?

There is no Liberal Media!



Save a few token Liberals, our media is owned by the Republican Party, has been for decades.
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eg8r
04-19-2012, 02:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Sunday talk shows are tilted in favor of conservative guests, a new study by the left-wing media watchdog FAIR asserts.
</div></div>Then it is clear to see that Americans want to hear what self-proclaimed conservatives have to say. What is your problem with the liberal stations giving Americans what they want to see?

eg8r

Soflasnapper
04-19-2012, 02:22 PM
[...] <s>Dick</s> DAVID Gregory is as right wing as they come?

Dick Gregory is quite far to the left. David Gregory is an NBC careerist, and more a sycophant to that power structure than really much a right winger. Although he does skew that way, because of how rightist NBC is. Ol' Tim Russert, his predecessor on MTP, was quite the desired interviewer for the W administration for these same reasons.

Soflasnapper
04-19-2012, 02:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Sunday talk shows are tilted in favor of conservative guests, a new study by the left-wing media watchdog FAIR asserts.
</div></div>Then it is clear to see that Americans want to hear what self-proclaimed conservatives have to say. What is your problem with the liberal stations giving Americans what they want to see?

eg8r </div></div>

If the people were interested in seeing these people, these shows would have a larger audience. They have a pitifully small audience, as the people are not interested to see such a narrow swath of the political class mouth their propaganda talking points. Perhaps if they changed the mix of their usual guests and panels, that might change. But for now, the American people reject these shows.

From TV by the numbers, here (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/24/cbs-news-face-the-nation-is-the-1-public-affairs-show-on-sunday-february-19/121764/)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Written By Sara Bibel

February 24th, 2012

via press release:

“FACE THE NATION” IS ALSO UP +26% IN HOUSEHOLDS, +18% IN VIEWERS AND +50% IN ADULTS 25-54 COMPARED TO THE SAME WEEK LAST YEAR

CBS News’ FACE THE NATION was the #1 public affairs show on Sunday, Feb. 19. FACE THE NATION was first in households, viewers and adults 25-54 (tied with NBC). The CBS broadcast posted a 2.4/06 with 3.38m viewers and 0.9/04 in adults 25-54, according to Nielsen live plus same day ratings.

FACE THE NATION was also up +26% in households (from 1.9/05), +18% in viewers (from 2.85m) and +50% in adults 25-54 (from 0.6/03) compared to the same week last year. </div></div>

The BEST ratings for 2/19/12 here are shown to be 0.9% of the possible television audience, with 4% of the sets actually on, for the money demo of 25-54.

Hilariously enough, even that low number is more than the most popular Fox News night time blockbuster shows (O'Reilly, Hannity), and Fox News Sunday (one of only two Fox shows I regularly watch) is dead last in the Sunday gasbag sweepstakes, despite having the non-right wing audience split 4 ways, between ABC/NBC/CBS and CNN offerings.

From which we learn: right wing populated Sunday shows do badly, and the right wing weekly night shows do worse, and the most right wing Sunday show does the very worst.

You were saying?

Gayle in MD
04-20-2012, 01:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[...] <s>Dick</s> DAVID Gregory is as right wing as they come?

Dick Gregory is quite far to the left. David Gregory is an NBC careerist, and more a sycophant to that power structure than really much a right winger. Although he does skew that way, because of how rightist NBC is. Ol' Tim Russert, his predecessor on MTP, was quite the desired interviewer for the W administration for these same reasons. </div></div>

LOL, I do that all the time, say Dick instead of David Gregory. Sorry.

IMO, David is much worse for showing his bias, than Russart was.

Did you happen to see MTP last sunday? Gregory allowed Bachmann to take over the discussion between herself, and Kirstan Gillibrand, allowing Bachmann to incessantly interrupt and talk over Gillibrand. His bias is very obvious.

I've caught Gregory so many times failing to correct RW lies, just lets them go by, as fact.

G.

eg8r
04-20-2012, 09:44 AM
LOL, I was saying you are foolish to think you are as smart as you think you are. This is all a business and if the money was not coming in the shows would not be happening. What are the comparisons for these shows compared to other shows on at the same time aimed at the same demographic?

eg8r

Soflasnapper
04-20-2012, 02:25 PM
Not at all. Propaganda has a value, and it will be paid for, even if it doesn't make a profit back.

The Washington Times has cost the Unification Church several billions of dollars, and never returned a profit.

Evidently, the intended audience for these Sabbath gasbag shows is a) older, and b) mainly older white men in the Beltway. They have very minimal costs-- the studio cost and technicians' pay, the hosts' pay, and sometimes the cost of a remote satellite hookup.

I doubt you can find ANY show on Sunday morning doing great, although the CBS Sunday Show (early Sunday, prior to the actual talking heads political shows, and more like the weekday early morning offerings), is probably highest ranked. Networks make money on Sundays after noon, with their sports programming and later night shows.

eg8r
04-21-2012, 06:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I doubt you can find ANY show on Sunday morning doing great, </div></div>Which is exactly why your point about their ratings means absolutely squat. The liberal stations are putting on what their viewers want to see. Since all ratings are low they are doing at least what they can to get as many viewers as possible. Air America failed because Americans don't want to listen to liberal lies. TV is the same thing.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
04-21-2012, 06:28 PM
This is absurd talk. There are no 'liberal stations,' or 'liberal networks.' Some now play that role, for perceived profit potential, as in the last couple of years of MSNBC. Perhaps the pygmy network Current is also doing that, or they may actually be the only liberal network you can see on television.

The Air America experiment failed from a bad business model, period. They thought paying a couple of luminaries a very high salary, all things considered, would create a steady and large listenership, but forgot a few things. One, they'd have to have the financing to continue to pay those people for as long as it took to get the audience. (As how USA Today continued to lose money for 10 years or more until they got their audience, or the same thing for Fox News Channel.) They did not have the long term money to do that. They had to get a strong enough broadcast station that people could hear them, but all the strong radio signal stations were owned already by the monopoly cartels.

All the networks are owned by large business interests that are nobody's idea of liberals. That's a myth and a hoax you've fallen for. Looking back at the nets coverage leading up to the last Iraq war, it was 97% pro-war guests and hosts, and 3% anti-war guests or hosts. MSNBC fired their highest rated show host, Phil Donahue, because he was anti-war. Liberals?

eg8r
04-21-2012, 06:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is absurd talk. There are no 'liberal stations</div></div>Pull your head out of the sand and you will see what is really going on around you.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They thought paying a couple of luminaries a very high salary, all things considered, would create a steady and large listenership, but forgot a few things.</div></div>They thought their message could compete but these "luminaries" couldn't even handle the call-ins from the people actually listening. It failed because Americans don't want to hear their lies.

eg8r

pooltchr
04-21-2012, 08:39 PM
If I were back in broadcasting and I wanted ratings, I would be programming to the right and not the left. After all, the goal is to get the largest audience possible. Air America proved that aiming left does not get an audience. Rush has proved that aiming to the right draws better numbers.

That should tell you something if you think about it.

Steve

LWW
04-22-2012, 05:44 AM
Leftists believe the darnedest things.

pooltchr
04-22-2012, 08:26 AM
MTP guest this morning was David Axelrod...another well known conservative who just happens to be Obama's campaign manager???

Steve

Soflasnapper
04-22-2012, 12:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is absurd talk. There are no 'liberal stations</div></div>Pull your head out of the sand and you will see what is really going on around you.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They thought paying a couple of luminaries a very high salary, all things considered, would create a steady and large listenership, but forgot a few things.</div></div>They thought their message could compete but these "luminaries" couldn't even handle the call-ins from the people actually listening. It failed because Americans don't want to hear their lies.

eg8r </div></div>

Geeze, study some history, and buy a clue.

The power structure is not liberal. The power structure, the money power, bought all the important media they didn't already own about a century back. The Rothschilds bought Reuters around the turn of the 20th century, and also has AP and UPI. They and the Morgan forces and allies bought all the important newspapers early in the 20th century. As radio and television became important news sources, they've also been taken over.

All media of all types in this country and Europe are owned by less than 10 gigantic corporations. Gigantic power structure owned corporations that tend to their own bottom lines for the benefit of their owners, and who got the ownership concentration rules waived so that they consolidate this control into a closely held cartel arrangement. (See: Communications Modernization Act). That's your so-called liberal media, which has over and over again, not performed in any liberal fashion or cause. Notice how they totally opposed, and eventually succeeded in preventing, this last Iraq war? No, actually, they didn't.

Soflasnapper
04-22-2012, 12:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I were back in broadcasting and I wanted ratings, I would be programming to the right and not the left. After all, the goal is to get the largest audience possible. Air America proved that aiming left does not get an audience. Rush has proved that aiming to the right draws better numbers.

That should tell you something if you think about it.

Steve </div></div>

RW radio ratings, and Fox News Channel ratings, are down across the board, significantly (even as cable news ratings are up, over all). The dogs won't eat that dog food anymore, and the ones that do are older and eventually are dying off, and/or will soon be in long-care arrangements where they'll listen to what the Jamaican, Haitian, Bahamian or Puerto Rican female caretakers put on the radio or television.

Glen Beck went from over 3 million television viewers at his peak, declined to below 2 million in his last year, and now has 200,000 or so subscribing to GTV or whatever he calls it.

Bill O'Reilly abandoned his Radio Factor show. Sarah Palin lost her reality Alaska show (not renewed), and Fox has not aired more than the first American Experience show they promised would be a recurring feature a year or more back, nor particularly used her in her general Fox featured commentator role.

Ailes himself has tried to repurpose Fox away from such a hard right attitude.

So aiming to the right does what, again? Makes everyone a lot of money? Used to, I agree. Not so much anymore.

Soflasnapper
04-22-2012, 12:48 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MTP guest this morning was David Axelrod...another well known conservative who just happens to be Obama's campaign manager???

Steve </div></div>

Old Yiddish saying: For example is no argument.

Nobody claimed it was a 0% leftward content, just that the leftward leaning participants were a smallish percentage. Showing one person is entirely consistent with that claim, and not a refuttal of it.

pooltchr
04-22-2012, 02:42 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MTP guest this morning was David Axelrod...another well known conservative who just happens to be Obama's campaign manager???

Steve </div></div>

Old Yiddish saying: For example is no argument.

Nobody claimed it was a 0% leftward content, just that the leftward leaning participants were a smallish percentage. Showing one person is entirely consistent with that claim, and not a refuttal of it. </div></div>

Without doing a lot of useless research on the subject (who really cares anyway?) I just found it interesting that the first Sunday after I read this thread, and here we find DA heading up the guest list. No conclusions drawn...just an observation.
Steve

Soflasnapper
04-22-2012, 02:56 PM
Another Fox News Sunday Without A Democrat
Posted by Brian -2pc on April 22, 2012 · Flag

We can add today's Fox News Sunday to our growing list of FNS programs without a Democratic guest. Today's roster included Republican Governor Mitch Daniels and Independent Joe Lieberman. Sure, Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats and he was Al Gore's VP pick in 2000. But in the last presidential election, Lieberman didn't just back Sen. John McCain, he spoke at the Republican convention in support of McCain.

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Other Fox News Sunday programs with no Democratic guests:

March 11, 2012

February 6, 2012

February, 19, 2012

January 22, 2012

May 22, 2011

January 2, 2011

January 16, 2011

December 26, 2010

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To be fair, FNS does have some Democrats, of course, as on the various Sundays in these ranges that are not mentioned.

However, fairly often, they are shut out, per the above.

And that's as guests. The later panels, no obvious Democrats I can name ever, and I watch that show regularly. Maybe Juan Williams, although if he's a Democrat, not much of a fiercely partisan one. Same with Maura Liasson.

eg8r
04-22-2012, 09:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RW radio ratings, and Fox News Channel ratings, are down across the board, significantly (even as cable news ratings are up, over all). </div></div>Where did they all go? Did they flock to the stations broadcasting a liberal agenda? These viewers did not just turn their TV off completely, surely they are watching something else? What is it? Did the Right lose viewership to the Left or did they Right lose viewership to other cable programming?

eg8r

eg8r
04-22-2012, 09:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The power structure is not liberal.</div></div>LOL, if you say it a million times even you will believe it.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
04-23-2012, 04:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RW radio ratings, and Fox News Channel ratings, are down across the board, significantly (even as cable news ratings are up, over all). </div></div>Where did they all go? Did they flock to the stations broadcasting a liberal agenda? These viewers did not just turn their TV off completely, surely they are watching something else? What is it? Did the Right lose viewership to the Left or did they Right lose viewership to other cable programming?

eg8r </div></div>

Hard to say for every category. For cable news viewership, it's up, with Fox down. That means CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, etc. are up, and they're supposedly liberal media, but it doesn't exactly mean the dropped audience for Fox went over to the others.

As there IS no liberal talk radio to speak of, apparently the right wing talk radio audience is tuning out to political talk radio, period, and either going to sports talk, music, or something other than the radio. Even people I know who are on the right find many of these programs repetitious, tedious, and mind-numbingly hateful, and are increasingly refusing to listen to them.

If you've heard one Rush show, you've heard how they all go. If you've heard one of Hannity's list rants once, you'll hear it a hundred times. Schtick's run dry for them.

eg8r
04-23-2012, 06:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As there IS no liberal talk radio to speak of</div></div>That is their own fault. They failed miserably with Air America.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
04-23-2012, 07:58 PM
No, they just failed to hook up with the cartel monopolizing the best channels. Although that might have been impossible.

Still, you have Jones Communication's Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, and Premiere Radio itself hiring on Randi Rhoads, who routinely out drew listeners head to head with Rush down here. Mike Malloy is another one. Maybe Lionel is still around, and then there's Tom Leykis. If I were back in the Pacific Northwest, I'm fairly sure there would be local liberal talk show hosts there, too.

Down here, they took Todd Schnitt off the 3-6 pm time frame (he's later night now, after Hannity and before Mark Levin), to replace him with someone claiming he is not a doctrinaire Republican and more an independent (which he is not, but tries to come off that way).

eg8r
04-23-2012, 09:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, they just failed to hook up with the cartel monopolizing the best channels.</div></div>LOL you wish that was the reason.

eg8r

LWW
04-24-2012, 04:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still, you have Jones Communication's Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, and Premiere Radio itself hiring on Randi Rhoads, who routinely out drew listeners head to head with Rush down here. </div></div>

Backed up by?

What' that?

Nothing.

Imagine that.

Gayle in MD
04-24-2012, 06:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RW radio ratings, and Fox News Channel ratings, are down across the board, significantly (even as cable news ratings are up, over all). </div></div>Where did they all go? Did they flock to the stations broadcasting a liberal agenda? These viewers did not just turn their TV off completely, surely they are watching something else? What is it? Did the Right lose viewership to the Left or did they Right lose viewership to other cable programming?

eg8r </div></div>

Hard to say for every category. For cable news viewership, it's up, with Fox down. That means CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, etc. are up, and they're supposedly liberal media, but it doesn't exactly mean the dropped audience for Fox went over to the others.

As there IS no liberal talk radio to speak of, apparently the right wing talk radio audience is tuning out to political talk radio, period, and either going to sports talk, music, or something other than the radio. Even people I know who are on the right find many of these programs repetitious, tedious, and mind-numbingly hateful, and are increasingly refusing to listen to them.

If you've heard one Rush show, you've heard how they all go. If you've heard one of Hannity's list rants once, you'll hear it a hundred times. Schtick's run dry for them. </div></div>


But their cancer causing fascist contributors manage to keep them all afloat!


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