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Sev
05-02-2012, 06:38 PM
Sounds like the autobiography should have been named Dreams of larger Cock rather than Dreams From My Father.

Brings into question what else is a fabrication in the book. It should be redefined as fiction.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/05/obama-ny-girlfriend-was-composite-character-122272.html

One of the more mysterious characters from President Obama's 1995 autobiography Dreams From My Father is the so-called 'New York girlfriend.' Obama never referred to her by name, or even by psuedonym, but he describes her appearance, her voice, and her mannerisms in specific detail.

But Obama has now told biographer David Maraniss that the 'New York girlfriend' was actually a composite character, based off of multiple girlfriends he had both in New York City and in Chicago.

Gayle in MD
05-02-2012, 07:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like the autobiography should have been named Dreams of larger Cock rather than Dreams From My Father.

Brings into question what else is a fabrication in the book. It should be redefined as fiction.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/05/obama-ny-girlfriend-was-composite-character-122272.html

One of the more mysterious characters from President Obama's 1995 autobiography Dreams From My Father is the so-called 'New York girlfriend.' Obama never referred to her by name, or even by psuedonym, but he describes her appearance, her voice, and her mannerisms in specific detail.

But Obama has now told biographer David Maraniss that the 'New York girlfriend' was actually a composite character, based off of multiple girlfriends he had both in New York City and in Chicago. </div></div>

Why wouldn't he do that, to protect the identity of former girlfriends. I think that shows a good deal of character.

Additionally, one of his girlfriends during that time in his life, kept a diary, which she is now sharing with the public. Her own writings from that time, reveal a picture of the President which is a true reflection of his values, high intentions and general personality, very much confirming his own auto-biographical accounts of his life, and his own emotional ideological struggles and eventual emotional growth, which led him to the life he is living today.

If anything, her writings are proof that he is an authentic individual, who does not project a false image to others. They were both extremely intelligent young people.

I have read his books, and he is a beautiful writer. They are extremely well written, convey his high standards, and high intentions, and interestingly, the letters he wrote to his girlfriends, which have been revealed, display the very same writing voice and style as his auto-biographigal accounts in his own books.

Additionally, there is a huge difference between a fabrication, and a composite, when it comes to writing non-fiction.

All writers take some poetic license, even if slight. It is very common for writers to veil the identity of those about whom they write.

G.

eg8r
05-02-2012, 07:27 PM
One thing that is not a fabrication is the fact that Obama is allowing his brother to die in squalor while he lives as a king.

eg8r

Sev
05-02-2012, 08:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like the autobiography should have been named Dreams of larger Cock rather than Dreams From My Father.

Brings into question what else is a fabrication in the book. It should be redefined as fiction.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/05/obama-ny-girlfriend-was-composite-character-122272.html

One of the more mysterious characters from President Obama's 1995 autobiography Dreams From My Father is the so-called 'New York girlfriend.' Obama never referred to her by name, or even by psuedonym, but he describes her appearance, her voice, and her mannerisms in specific detail.

But Obama has now told biographer David Maraniss that the 'New York girlfriend' was actually a composite character, based off of multiple girlfriends he had both in New York City and in Chicago. </div></div>

Why wouldn't he do that, to protect the identity of former girlfriends. I think that shows a good deal of character.

Additionally, one of his girlfriends during that time in his life, kept a diary, which she is now sharing with the public. Her own writings from that time, reveal a picture of the President which is a true reflection of his values, high intentions and general personality, very much confirming his own auto-biographical accounts of his life, and his own emotional ideological struggles and eventual emotional growth, which led him to the life he is living today.

If anything, her writings are proof that he is an authentic individual, who does not project a false image to others. They were both extremely intelligent young people.

I have read his books, and he is a beautiful writer. They are extremely well written, convey his high standards, and high intentions, and interestingly, the letters he wrote to his girlfriends, which have been revealed, display the very same writing voice and style as his auto-biographigal accounts in his own books.

Additionally, there is a huge difference between a fabrication, and a composite, when it comes to writing non-fiction.

All writers take some poetic license, even if slight. It is very common for writers to veil the identity of those about whom they write.

G. </div></div>

As if any of that is reliable either.

Qtec
05-02-2012, 08:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that is not a fabrication is the fact that Obama is allowing his brother to die in squalor while he lives as a king.

eg8r </div></div>

OMG...eg8r is a socialist!!!!!!!! He wants to spread the wealth around!


Q /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Sev
05-02-2012, 08:30 PM
Once upon a time family took care of each other. It was part of family values.

Gayle in MD
05-02-2012, 11:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As if any of that is reliable either. </div></div>


Oh but Drudge Report is in your opinion reliable?

<span style='font-size: 14pt'> OBAMA ADMITS FABRICATING NEW YORK GIRLFRIEND IN MEMOIR </span>

Which Drudge picked up from Dylan Byers of politico who had written: <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Obama admits 'New York girlfriend' was composite, a fact not noted in 'Dreams From My Father'

</span> </div></div>

Interesting, because I checked out my copy, and found this on page XVII in the intro:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>FOR THE SAKE OF COMPRESSION, SOME OF THE CHARACTERS THAT APPEAR ARE COMPOSITES OF PEOPLE I'VE KNOWN, AND SOME EVENTS APPEAR OUT OF PRECISE CHRONOLOGY. </span> </div></div>


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The whole story, excerpts from the president's book, and from his girlfriend's diary, (Genavive Cook) will be published in the next issue of Vanity Fair magazine, in a story called: Becoming Obama, by: David Maraniss.

I suppose it is too late for you to change your thread title. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

LWW
05-03-2012, 05:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that is not a fabrication is the fact that Obama is allowing his brother to die in squalor while he lives as a king.

eg8r </div></div>

OMG...eg8r is a socialist!!!!!!!! He wants to spread the wealth around!


Q /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif </div></div>

Faithful to your master to the end I see.

In reality what eg suggests is that Obama care for his own family while Obama demands that this duty be shifted onto others.

LWW
05-03-2012, 05:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Once upon a time family took care of each other. It was part of family values. </div></div>

There are those who now proudly admit that the book was full f lies.

eg8r
05-03-2012, 07:03 AM
Socialists have the only lock on helping your family?

eg8r

Qtec
05-04-2012, 09:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Socialists have the only lock on helping your family?

eg8r </div></div>


Absolutely not.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"<span style='font-size: 23pt'>Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself</span>"ŚMatthew 19:19. </div></div>

<u>Doesn't</u> sound much like you, you think?



Q

Gayle in MD
05-04-2012, 09:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that is not a fabrication is the fact that Obama is allowing his brother to die in squalor while he lives as a king.

eg8r </div></div>

Oh really? Did you speak with his brother? I haven't read anywhere that his brother is dying.

Do you have a credible link for that statement?

G.

Gayle in MD
05-04-2012, 09:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Once upon a time family took care of each other. It was part of family values. </div></div>

How do you know anything about the inner workings of president Obama's family?



I don't know what the inner family circumstances are. Nor do you.

G.

Soflasnapper
05-04-2012, 10:16 AM
It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother.

Gayle in MD
05-04-2012, 10:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Very true. I'm sure we've all know people who distance themselves from certain family members with whom they do not wish to have contact.

Our own history in this country, provides manny examples.

Thomas Jefferson,
Adams,
Madison,
This could grow into a very long lilst, lol.

All of the slave owners, who sold off slaves whether they were their own offspring, or not!

Europens who sold their children just to get rid of them!

But, as we know, anything to discredit president Obama.

Never any proof, just more RW hatred.

Like this story, about his former girlfriends. I love this story, because I have read his books, and it deepens my knowledge of the man, and his own personal struggles to grow, and to find his place, and follow his bliss.

It is a window into the world of those who are born bi-racial. A young man with black skin, who didn't really know his black father, and with a white mother who was gone most of the time, while he was raised by loving white grandparents,

He is an amazing person. His story is very interesting. These former girlfriends who have surfaced, only confirm the entire flavor of what he had already written about himselof and about his life.

Too bad, some people automatically reject anything and everything, which is "different" from their own experiences of life.

They really miss out.

G.

Sev
05-04-2012, 11:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Excuses.

For a guy that has now made millions and is demanding to spread the wealth around you would think the least he would do is pop a few grand over to his family in Africa to help them out.

Of course they are not American blacks. Handouts might be seen as an insult.

Gayle in MD
05-04-2012, 11:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Excuses.

For a guy that has now made millions and is demanding to spread the wealth around you would think the least he would do is pop a few grand over to his family in Africa to help them out.

Of course they are not American blacks. Handouts might be seen as an insult.



</div></div>
More racist rhetoric?


How do you know he hasn't sent them money?

I'm sure neither party would speak about it.

G.

Sev
05-04-2012, 11:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Excuses.

For a guy that has now made millions and is demanding to spread the wealth around you would think the least he would do is pop a few grand over to his family in Africa to help them out.

Of course they are not American blacks. Handouts might be seen as an insult.



</div></div>
More racist rhetoric?


How do you know he hasn't sent them money?

I'm sure neither party would speak about it.

G. </div></div>

HAHAHAHA!!

Obama wouldn't talk about it???
Surely you jest.
The guy cant keep his mouth shut. Especially when given the opportunity to put "I" in a string of sentences. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Gayle in MD
05-04-2012, 03:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Excuses.

For a guy that has now made millions and is demanding to spread the wealth around you would think the least he would do is pop a few grand over to his family in Africa to help them out.

Of course they are not American blacks. Handouts might be seen as an insult.



</div></div>
More racist rhetoric?


How do you know he hasn't sent them money?

I'm sure neither party would speak about it.

G. </div></div>

HAHAHAHA!!

Obama wouldn't talk about it???
Surely you jest.
The guy cant keep his mouth shut. Especially when given the opportunity to put "I" in a string of sentences. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

</div></div>

Just as I thought. You have no proof. Just more Rumors, LOL.

Figures.

President Obama is very low key. He isn't the bragging type.

I don't recall him slying in all dressed up in his G.I Joe costume, after he got bin Laden, and not after he got the pirates, and not after he squashed al Qaeda. And not after he arranged for the rescue of two young ladies, held in a rogue country.

In fact, he always gave all of the accolades to others, never for himself.

You're skewing the facts, trying to twist his real nature.

G.

LWW
05-04-2012, 07:21 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Socialists have the only lock on helping your family?

eg8r </div></div>

Almost ... they have a lock on demanding that someone else take care of their family.

DiabloViejo
05-04-2012, 11:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Socialists have the only lock on helping your family?

eg8r </div></div>

Almost ... they have a lock on demanding that someone else take care of their family. </div></div>

Yeah, just like you have a lock on spewing toxic fecal matter in every one of your posts!

Sev
05-05-2012, 06:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Excuses.

For a guy that has now made millions and is demanding to spread the wealth around you would think the least he would do is pop a few grand over to his family in Africa to help them out.

Of course they are not American blacks. Handouts might be seen as an insult.



</div></div>
More racist rhetoric?


How do you know he hasn't sent them money?

I'm sure neither party would speak about it.

G. </div></div>

HAHAHAHA!!

Obama wouldn't talk about it???
Surely you jest.
The guy cant keep his mouth shut. Especially when given the opportunity to put "I" in a string of sentences. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

</div></div>

Just as I thought. You have no proof. Just more Rumors, LOL.

Figures.

President Obama is very low key. He isn't the bragging type.

I don't recall him slying in all dressed up in his G.I Joe costume, after he got bin Laden, and not after he got the pirates, and not after he squashed al Qaeda. And not after he arranged for the rescue of two young ladies, held in a rogue country.

In fact, he always gave all of the accolades to others, never for himself.

You're skewing the facts, trying to twist his real nature.

G. </div></div>

Low key???? Low Key???? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
I know you were smiling when you typed that.

Gayle in MD
05-05-2012, 07:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's common when a father abandons a family and creates a new one, that the families don't consider each other family. Surely they weren't IN ONE FAMILY, ever.

It's also common if a man fathers bastards outside the bounds of matrimony, that those persons aren't considered part of the family, either. Some may be later embraced as part of the family, but many are not.

One or the other of the above scenarios describes the relationship of Obama to his (half-) brother. </div></div>

Excuses.

For a guy that has now made millions and is demanding to spread the wealth around you would think the least he would do is pop a few grand over to his family in Africa to help them out.

Of course they are not American blacks. Handouts might be seen as an insult.



</div></div>
More racist rhetoric?


How do you know he hasn't sent them money?

I'm sure neither party would speak about it.

G. </div></div>

HAHAHAHA!!

Obama wouldn't talk about it???
Surely you jest.
The guy cant keep his mouth shut. Especially when given the opportunity to put "I" in a string of sentences. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

</div></div>

Just as I thought. You have no proof. Just more Rumors, LOL.

Figures.

President Obama is very low key. He isn't the bragging type.

I don't recall him slying in all dressed up in his G.I Joe costume, after he got bin Laden, and not after he got the pirates, and not after he squashed al Qaeda. And not after he arranged for the rescue of two young ladies, held in a rogue country.

In fact, he always gave all of the accolades to others, never for himself.

You're skewing the facts, trying to twist his real nature.

G. </div></div>

Low key???? Low Key???? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
I know you were smiling when you typed that.
</div></div>

Actually, I should have written low-keyed, as in, Restrained in style. A little Masterpiece of low-keyed eloquence.

Not all hat no cattle. Not Cowboy diplomacy. Not a costumed theatrical drama, all bravado, and with no accomplishment or factual cause for celebration.

IOW, celebrating as a country the demise of the mann who murdered so many innocent people on 9/11, along with the rest of the country, was not politicizing, it was a genuine cause for celebration.

Nothing like The Chimp who brought this country to the worst economic circumstances in history, while created false enemies, ignoring any and every potential, growing threat, and completely failing to protect the country from impending threats.

But, back to the subject.

Are you now willing to admit that these two former girlfriends, who are speaking out of their own accord, do annd did exist, and that they do confirm, President Obama's former writings about his growth into adulthood?

Or, are you remaining at the usual RW rest stop in the road, engine turned off, no forward momentum, refusing any actual study or research of the subject, and no interest in whether or not your posted information has any validity at all?


G.

LWW
05-05-2012, 07:47 AM
Obama has fabricated his entire life history.

Soflasnapper
05-07-2012, 05:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Socialists have the only lock on helping your family?

eg8r </div></div>

Almost ... they have a lock on demanding that someone else take care of their family. </div></div>

Yeah, just like you have a lock on spewing toxic fecal matter in every one of your posts! </div></div>

To be fair, explosive diarrhea is no laughing matter!