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05-03-2012, 04:38 AM
Jonah Goldberg went on Piers Morgan Monday night to promote his latest "nanny-boo-boo liberals!" book, and belched up a favorite right-wing canard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> MORGAN: I'm just saying the Republican administration obviously led to a huge financial collapse. You wouldn't dispute that.
GOLDBERG: I would and I would also say <u>Barack Obama has spent much, much, much, much more money than the Republicans.</u>
MORGAN: Would you dispute that after eight years of Republican administration the country went into a huge economic collapse?
GOLDBERG: No, but that's a timeline question.
Don't you just love that last bit where Jonah shrugs off Bush/Cheney's presiding over the worst financial collapse since the Great Depression as "a timeline question"? The party of personal responsibility blaming everyone else strikes again!
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>But Jonah is, of course, totally, hilariously, absolutely wrong about this supposed spending binge under Obama.</span>
First, as of 2011, Bush's policies had cost the country over $5T, compared to Obama's $1T.
<span style="color: #3333FF">The Chart That Should Accompany All Discussions of the Debt Ceiling</span>
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/jamesfallows/assets_c/2011/07/24editorial_graph2-popup-thumb-560x622-58477.gif
You want to look at growth in government spending? Obama's lower than George W. Bush and Reagan.
link (http://economistsview.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b33869e2016763df2c09970b-popup)
What about government purchases of goods and services? Yep, they've collapsed under Obama.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/27/opinion/042712krugman2/042712krugman2-blog480.jpg
Government employees? A record decline under Obama.
Three years into his presidency, he has exceeded Reagan in one area: reductions in government jobs.
<span style="color: #990000"> "Over all — including a decline of 12,000 public sector jobs in the Labor Department report for December — government employment is down 2.6 percent over the last three years, compared to a decline of 2.2 percent in the early Reagan years. <u>That is a record.</u>
That record, which will seem a dubious distinction to public-sector employees, is largely a result not of federal policy but of shrinking state governments. State employment fell 1.2 percent in 2011 — the largest percentage for any year since counting began in 1955. The number is down 2.2 percent over the last three years. It was up 1.2 percent during Reagan’s first three years, declining in only one of the years."</span>
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Obama's record spending spree is bankrupting the nation" is yet another Big Lie right-wingers like Goldberg -- who incidentally was a cheerleader for Bush/Cheney while they were turning record surpluses into record deficits -- are telling about Obama. It's a lie Mitt Romney will tell during the campaign.
And it's a lie that the media will probably them get away with.</span> </div></div>
link (http://crooksandliars.com/blue-texan/cnn-jonah-goldberg-falsley-claims-obama)
Watch the interview, its a good one.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> MORGAN: I'm just saying the Republican administration obviously led to a huge financial collapse. You wouldn't dispute that.
GOLDBERG: I would and I would also say <u>Barack Obama has spent much, much, much, much more money than the Republicans.</u>
MORGAN: Would you dispute that after eight years of Republican administration the country went into a huge economic collapse?
GOLDBERG: No, but that's a timeline question.
Don't you just love that last bit where Jonah shrugs off Bush/Cheney's presiding over the worst financial collapse since the Great Depression as "a timeline question"? The party of personal responsibility blaming everyone else strikes again!
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>But Jonah is, of course, totally, hilariously, absolutely wrong about this supposed spending binge under Obama.</span>
First, as of 2011, Bush's policies had cost the country over $5T, compared to Obama's $1T.
<span style="color: #3333FF">The Chart That Should Accompany All Discussions of the Debt Ceiling</span>
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/jamesfallows/assets_c/2011/07/24editorial_graph2-popup-thumb-560x622-58477.gif
You want to look at growth in government spending? Obama's lower than George W. Bush and Reagan.
link (http://economistsview.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b33869e2016763df2c09970b-popup)
What about government purchases of goods and services? Yep, they've collapsed under Obama.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/27/opinion/042712krugman2/042712krugman2-blog480.jpg
Government employees? A record decline under Obama.
Three years into his presidency, he has exceeded Reagan in one area: reductions in government jobs.
<span style="color: #990000"> "Over all — including a decline of 12,000 public sector jobs in the Labor Department report for December — government employment is down 2.6 percent over the last three years, compared to a decline of 2.2 percent in the early Reagan years. <u>That is a record.</u>
That record, which will seem a dubious distinction to public-sector employees, is largely a result not of federal policy but of shrinking state governments. State employment fell 1.2 percent in 2011 — the largest percentage for any year since counting began in 1955. The number is down 2.2 percent over the last three years. It was up 1.2 percent during Reagan’s first three years, declining in only one of the years."</span>
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Obama's record spending spree is bankrupting the nation" is yet another Big Lie right-wingers like Goldberg -- who incidentally was a cheerleader for Bush/Cheney while they were turning record surpluses into record deficits -- are telling about Obama. It's a lie Mitt Romney will tell during the campaign.
And it's a lie that the media will probably them get away with.</span> </div></div>
link (http://crooksandliars.com/blue-texan/cnn-jonah-goldberg-falsley-claims-obama)
Watch the interview, its a good one.
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