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Sev
05-04-2012, 12:49 PM
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<span style='font-size: 20pt'>See the pale-faced Warren redden</span>
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Dances with truths about her ethnicity</span>
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion...opi#articleFull (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1061129100&format=&page=2&listingType=opi#articleFull)
Is “Liz Warren” how you say “affirmative action” in Cherokee?

When the “Faux-cahontas” story first broke, I looked at it mostly as a laugh line — a truth-stretching liberal hoist on the left’s identity-politics petard.

And as comedy, Liz Warren’s campaign continues to be a knee-slapper. She listed herself as a Native American — based on a possible 1/32nd of Cherokee ancestry — because, she told the Boston Herald, she was hoping “it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon.”

Sorry, Liz, but the Occupods are wrong. There really is no such thing as a free lunch.

Beyond the comedy, however, are some seriously disturbing facts, reported by Paul Bedard in the Washington Examiner. He notes that Warren’s decision to check the “Native American” box on her academic credentials “likely played a role in her Harvard hiring.”

It’s true that Warren inexplicably stopped touting her Native American roots once she got to Cambridge (not the sort of Indians she wanted to have lunch with, I suppose). But once she was hired, Harvard repeatedly bragged about her minority standing.

Could it be that Warren’s years of sending self-promoting smoke signals helped her hunt down a cushy Harvard job?

As evidence, Bedard notes that, during the time she was at Harvard Law, only one of the approximately 100 professors and assistant professors hadn’t graduated from a Top 10 law school. Who?

Wahoo. As in “Wahoo” Warren. Her degree was from Rutgers Law, ranked 82nd by Top-Law-Schools.com.

Bedard then expanded the search to all Ivy League law schools. Did any of the 350 or so law professors have a degree less prestigious than “Dances With Truths?”

Just one. “A Yale professor who attended the University of Nebraska Law School, ranked 89,” Bedard reports.

Snagging a Harvard Law gig with such a mediocre curriculum vitae — and no preferential treatment? Wow — a woman this lucky should open a casino!

People at Harvard Law School deny Warren benefited from any affirmative action, of course. Unfortunately these are the same Harvard hacks who boasted about Warren’s contribution to faculty “diversity” when Harvard Law was under fire a few years ago.

Who knows what really happened. At this point, we don’t even know for sure if Cherokee Warren’s newly-discovered great-great-great-grandmother was actually a Native American.

All we can do is take Warren at her word that claiming standing as a member of an ethnic minority was merely an excuse to meet new people (think “TeePeeHarmony.Com”) and had nothing to do with academia’s elevation of identity politics.

In other words, even if we lived in a day when Elizabeth Warren would have suffered occupational discrimination for being a Native American, she would have spent her career making the same claims.

If you believe that, I’ve got some oceanfront sacred burial grounds in Oklahoma to sell you . . .

On Fox News Channel yesterday, Megyn Kelly asked me if this story was relevant and why. I told her the fact that the Democrats’ hand-picked candidate is sinking in deep-blue Massachusetts shows it’s relevant.

And the reason her story resonates isn’t simply because she tried to pass off some political peyote as the real deal. It hits a nerve with the many working Americans who know what it’s like to fight for a desperately-needed job, aware that their lack of any special standing could mean that a job they’re qualified for could end up going to someone else.

Like with Martha Coakley in 2009, the whiff of liberal entitlement is in the air, and voters don’t like it.

Sorry, Princess IsItFall–Yet. This time, you have to earn it.

Soflasnapper
05-04-2012, 01:25 PM
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Brown (R) Warren (D) Spread
RCP Average 2/23 - 4/9 -- 43.0 42.0 Brown +1.0
Rasmussen Reports 4/9 - 4/9 500 LV 45 46 Warren +1
Boston Globe 3/21 - 3/27 544 LV 37 35 Brown +2
PPP (D) 3/16 - 3/18 936 RV 41 46 Warren +5
Western NE University 2/23 - 3/1 527 RV 49 41 Brown +8

See All Massachusetts Senate - Brown vs. Warren Polling Data

As of 4/9, Rasmussen polled her ahead of Brown, although only by 1 point, within the margin of error.

Going back to February through that date, the RCP average had Brown ahead--- by 1, within the margin of error.

So if the reason this is a relevant story, as even Megyn Kelly appeared to doubt, is that 'Elizabeth Warren is sinking in deep blue Massachusetts,' then it does not appear to be a relevant story, as, per this evidence (admittedly now a month old), she is not sinking, but essentially tied with the incumbent.

LWW
05-04-2012, 02:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As there is no evidence that she received any admission or hiring on the basis of affirmative action, no exoneration is required there, yet, until and unless that shows up. </div></div>

Well, we are clearly past "UNTIL AND UNLESS" ... and you have already use all three lifelines, DEFLECT-DEFEND-DENY, so now it's time to blame Bush.

Gayle in MD
05-04-2012, 02:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Brown (R) Warren (D) Spread
RCP Average 2/23 - 4/9 -- 43.0 42.0 Brown +1.0
Rasmussen Reports 4/9 - 4/9 500 LV 45 46 Warren +1
Boston Globe 3/21 - 3/27 544 LV 37 35 Brown +2
PPP (D) 3/16 - 3/18 936 RV 41 46 Warren +5
Western NE University 2/23 - 3/1 527 RV 49 41 Brown +8

See All Massachusetts Senate - Brown vs. Warren Polling Data

As of 4/9, Rasmussen polled her ahead of Brown, although only by 1 point, within the margin of error.

Going back to February through that date, the RCP average had Brown ahead--- by 1, within the margin of error.

So if the reason this is a relevant story, as even Megyn Kelly appeared to doubt, is that 'Elizabeth Warren is sinking in deep blue Massachusetts,' then it does not appear to be a relevant story, as, per this evidence (admittedly now a month old), she is not sinking, but essentially tied with the incumbent. </div></div>

People love Elizabeth Warren. My money is on her!

She is an amazing woman, brilliant, diligent and very knoweldgable.

Her genuine caring and empathy for people shines though her like a sunbeam, and yes, I have met her, and seen first hand how well she goes over with people from all backgrounds, all sorts of Americans, and of course, she is a hero to women, the largest voting block, who just love her.

Go Elizabeth! You deserve to win!

G.

Soflasnapper
05-04-2012, 06:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As there is no evidence that she received any admission or hiring on the basis of affirmative action, no exoneration is required there, yet, until and unless that shows up. </div></div>

Well, we are clearly past "UNTIL AND UNLESS" ... and you have already use all three lifelines, DEFLECT-DEFEND-DENY, so now it's time to blame Bush. </div></div>

As I said, and you've not proven wrong by anything said here, there is no evidence indicating that occurred.

If there is, what is that evidence? Supposition or inference is not evidence.

LWW
05-04-2012, 07:18 PM
And to you there never will be.

eg8r
05-06-2012, 05:48 PM
What is relevant is your inability to grasp what is actually happening. This is the land Kennedy built. No one could believe Brown won that election. Then the lefty idiots here on the board told us how the voters in Mass were going to boot him out of there and he was only going to be around 1 year. Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. The fact of the matter is that if Brown was so horrible then they would be voting for Warren hand over foot. What probably is happening is that they don't think so highly of Warren and the numbers are tied.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-07-2012, 09:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is relevant is your inability to grasp what is actually happening. This is the land Kennedy built. No one could believe Brown won that election. Then the lefty idiots here on the board told us how the voters in Mass were going to boot him out of there and he was only going to be around 1 year. Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. The fact of the matter is that if Brown was so horrible then they would be voting for Warren hand over foot. What probably is happening is that they don't think so highly of Warren and the numbers are tied.

eg8r </div></div>

Apparently the voters do not think so highly of Brown, since the numbers are tied, and incumbants always have an advantageous edge in elections, unless, of course, the voters aren't impressed with the guy they already have.

The same thing is happening in Virginia, Wisconsin, and other states where Republicans are up for re-election.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. </div></div>

That remains to be seen.
G.

eg8r
05-07-2012, 12:16 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Apparently the voters do not think so highly of Brown, since the numbers are tied</div></div>Well according to the BS you pumped on this website the second he won the election this might be the understatement of the year. However with the numbers being tied it shows us that they like him a whole heck of a lot more than you told us. You never do have a clear grasp of what is happening though.

eg8r

hondo
05-07-2012, 02:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is relevant is your inability to grasp what is actually happening. This is the land Kennedy built. No one could believe Brown won that election. Then the lefty idiots here on the board told us how the voters in Mass were going to boot him out of there and he was only going to be around 1 year. Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. The fact of the matter is that if Brown was so horrible then they would be voting for Warren hand over foot. What probably is happening is that they don't think so highly of Warren and the numbers are tied.

eg8r </div></div>

More personal attacks!

hondo
05-07-2012, 03:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is relevant is your inability to grasp what is actually happening. This is the land Kennedy built. No one could believe Brown won that election. Then the lefty idiots here on the board told us how the voters in Mass were going to boot him out of there and he was only going to be around 1 year. Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. The fact of the matter is that if Brown was so horrible then they would be voting for Warren hand over foot. What probably is happening is that they don't think so highly of Warren and the numbers are tied.

eg8r </div></div>

More personal attacks!

Soflasnapper
05-08-2012, 03:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is relevant is your inability to grasp what is actually happening. This is the land Kennedy built. No one could believe Brown won that election. Then the lefty idiots here on the board told us how the voters in Mass were going to boot him out of there and he was only going to be around 1 year. Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. The fact of the matter is that if Brown was so horrible then they would be voting for Warren hand over foot. What probably is happening is that they don't think so highly of Warren and the numbers are tied.

eg8r </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Cherokee debate underscores Brown’s delicate position. In 2010, shortly after Kennedy’s death, Brown won under conditions so unusual as to be once in a lifetime. He was able to campaign as the potential 41st vote against Obamacare at the height of Tea Party outrage over the bill, and his opponent, state Attorney General Martha Coakley, bungled her campaign.

Now the state and national Democratic Party sees the GOP’s seizure of “Teddy’s seat” as a painful open sore—especially given that Massachusetts hadn’t elected a Republican senator since 1972—and they want it back. Brown will have to do everything he can to play himself as a good-guy moderate Republican to hold on, and that includes stoking issues like this one just enough to keep the base energized, but not so aggressively as to turn off Massachusetts’s more liberal Republicans and independents.
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He also received a large amount of money from outside the state, including $500k very late in the campaign period that couldn't be matched, allowing him to flood the zone with his ads.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Politics aside, Linsky and Maurice Cunningham, chairman of the political science department at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, don’t buy the notion that Warren got a job at Harvard because she is one 32nd Cherokee.

“It’s an absurdity,” said Cunningham. “She’s a great attorney. There’s no question about it. Logic does not play an overwhelming role in these political controversies.”

Linsky said, “She had all the qualification that someone in that role would need, and they choose from a gazillion candidates.”</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still, it’s worth noting that while one 32nd worth of ancestry being a meaningful part of one’s identity may seem laughable, Cherokee identity permeates the culture in Oklahoma, where Warren was raised, in ways that might be surprising to the rest of the country.

“Here in Oklahoma there are plenty of people who are enrolled members of Cherokee Nation and have the same blood quantum (or less) as Elizabeth Warren,” said Fay Yarbrough, a University of Oklahoma history professor who has written at length about issues of race and identity among the Cherokee.

For Brown, finding ways to get voters to look past Warren’s impressive credentials and appealing pro-consumer populism is key.

And keeping the base energized “will be particularly critical in November,” said Linsky, “because it’s unlikely that the Republican campaign will spend a lot of time in Massachusetts.”

The Brown campaign is urgently seeking out ways to portray Warren as an elitist and to reinforce his “regular guy” bona fides, said Cunningham. One example: the senator’s recent letter to Whole Foods accusing the supermarket chain of “political correctness” for selling only sustainably caught fish, likely in an attempt to court the state’s fishing industry.

The Cherokee fracas is in that same category—it’s a small, ultimately non-policy-substantive piece of ammunition in Brown’s quest to define himself as a self-made man and depict his opponent as a coddled intellectual.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“They’ve kind of looked for these rather trivial issues, and I think they’ve hit on this one,” said Cunningham. “It’s a little bit like a Mel Brooks film. You keep telling bad jokes until you find one that people really laugh at.”</span> </div></div>

From the Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/07/cherokee-heritage-debate-snares-mass-senate-hopeful-elizabeth-warren.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=cheatsheet_afternoon&cid=newsletter%3Bemail%3Bcheatsheet_afternoon&utm_term=Cheat%20Sheet)

Gayle in MD
05-08-2012, 04:00 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Apparently the voters do not think so highly of Brown, since the numbers are tied</div></div>Well according to the BS you pumped on this website the second he won the election this might be the understatement of the year. However with the numbers being tied it shows us that they like him a whole heck of a lot more than you told us. You never do have a clear grasp of what is happening though.

eg8r </div></div>

As I recall, my main comment was that he ran against a woman who was not well organized, and ran a horrible campaign.

If he had had a better opponent, I don't think he would have won.

He now has a far better opponent, far more intelligent than he is, and now, for the first time, he will have some very tough competition.

So will they vote for a former centerfold, or will they choose a brilliant woman who has distinguished herself throughout her life, by making incredible accomplishments?

Only the Koch Brothers know for sure.

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Now you may carry on with your relentless personal insults and juvenile attacks, which you are known for, and which never end.

G.

eg8r
05-08-2012, 05:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now the state and national Democratic Party sees the GOP’s seizure of “Teddy’s seat” as a painful open sore—especially given that Massachusetts hadn’t elected a Republican senator since 1972—and they want it back. Brown will have to do everything he can to play himself as a good-guy moderate Republican to hold on, and that includes stoking issues like this one just enough to keep the base energized, but not so aggressively as to turn off Massachusetts’s more liberal Republicans and independents.
</div></div>The Democrat Party is nothing at this point. If Warren wins, which she is supposed to do, by the skin of her teeth it will be further cemented that you guys really have no idea what the voters are thinking. As for your comment about receiving tons of out of state money, who cares as far as this go around is concerned. We have been told by gaylio and qtip that Brown will not make it more than a year and he will be booted out. That was obviously as wrong as you can get. Now, if the voters in Mass hated Brown that much then no matter how much money he gets from whatever source they would still vote him out. At this point that is not happening.

eg8r

eg8r
05-08-2012, 05:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As I recall, my main comment was that he ran against a woman who was not well organized, and ran a horrible campaign.

If he had had a better opponent, I don't think he would have won.

He now has a far better opponent, far more intelligent than he is, and now, for the first time, he will have some very tough competition.
</div></div>That is my point...If voters in Mass hated Brown as much as you tried to make it sound then there would be no competition at all. She would be winning by a huge margin, not the statistical margin of error. The fact is, the story you painted of the feelings of the voters in Mass has been flat out wrong up to this point.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-08-2012, 06:42 PM
You just love to make things up!

Some folks call that lying.

G.

hondo
05-08-2012, 08:51 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Apparently the voters do not think so highly of Brown, since the numbers are tied</div></div>Well according to the BS you pumped on this website the second he won the election this might be the understatement of the year. However with the numbers being tied it shows us that they like him a whole heck of a lot more than you told us. You never do have a clear grasp of what is happening though.

eg8r </div></div>


More personal insults!

LWW
05-09-2012, 04:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is relevant is your inability to grasp what is actually happening. This is the land Kennedy built. No one could believe Brown won that election. Then the lefty idiots here on the board told us how the voters in Mass were going to boot him out of there and he was only going to be around 1 year. Now, we find out the lefty idiots on this board really have no idea what the people in Mass are thinking. The fact of the matter is that if Brown was so horrible then they would be voting for Warren hand over foot. What probably is happening is that they don't think so highly of Warren and the numbers are tied.

eg8r </div></div>

More personal attacks! </div></div>

True ... And you still ack the integrity to call out the initiator.

eg8r
05-09-2012, 07:12 AM
LOL, you just hate it when someone stands up to your bullying and reminds you how wrong you are.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-09-2012, 07:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, you just hate it when someone stands up to your bullying and reminds you how wrong you are.

eg8r </div></div>

LOL, your are the one who is making stuff up without providing any proof, personally insulting others, non stop attacking.

As usual.

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