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Sev
05-04-2012, 03:14 PM
I guess there is no love lost between Netanyahu and Obama.

Those extra Dolphin class subs may come in handy about then.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-repo...ember-october/
<span style='font-size: 23pt'>Netanyahu holding elections so he is free to deal with Iran in September-October
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Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is calling early elections so that he and his government will be free to deal with Iran’s nuclear program this September-October, one of Israel’s best-informed political commentators said on Friday night.

<span style="color: #660000"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Netanyahu is set on Sunday to announce that he is dissolving parliament and calling elections for September 4 — a year ahead of schedule. In the weeks immediately after that vote, said well-connected commentator Amnon Abramovich on the top-rated Channel 2 news, Netanyahu will head a transition government at home and have no need to worry about voter sentiment, and he knows that President Barack Obama will be paralyzed by the US presidential campaign.
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Netanyahu has shocked the nation in the past few days by indicating that he will be calling elections a year ahead of their scheduled date in October 2013, leaving analysts baffled as to his reasoning. Speculation has focused on differences among the various coalition parties over legislation on national service for ultra-Orthodox Israelis, and over elements of the national budget.

But Abramovich said that the dramatic decision to bring the elections forward relates to Iran. After the September elections, which all polls show Netanyahu winning easily, he will head a transition government for several weeks while a new coalition is formed. During that period, Netanyahu “will not be beholden to the voters,” and will be free to take decisions on Iran that many Israelis might not support, Abramovich said.

Furthermore, he will still have his trusted Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, at his side. Barak is seen as unlikely to fare well in the elections, and may not even retain his Knesset seat, but would retain the defense portfolio until a new coalition is formed.

And finally, said Abramovich, the September-October period would see Obama, who has publicly urged more patience in allowing diplomacy and sanctions to have their impact on Iran, in the final stages of the presidential election campaign, with a consequent reduced capacity to try to pressure Israel into holding off military intervention.

<span style="color: #660000"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Obama, “on the eve of elections, won’t dare criticize Israel,” said Abramovich. From Netanyahu’s point of view, “the conditions would be fantastic.”</span></span>

He noted that a transition government is prevented by law from taking dramatic policy decisions — except in critical circumstances, and drew attention to comments from Barak in a newspaper interview Friday in this regard.

“The political-security system will make decisions as needed, even under challenging circumstances,” said Barak about the impact of elections. “We must separate the issue of Iran from the subject of elections.”

Barak also said of the Iranian nuclear drive: “The moment of truth is approaching.”

Netanyahu has been repeatedly drawing parallels in recent weeks between the Iranian nuclear threat to Israel and the Holocaust, has said sanctions are not working, and warned that he will not allow Israel to have to live in the shadow of “annihilation.”

He has also indicated that a decision on military intervention in Iran will have to be taken within months.

Barak, for his part, has stated repeatedly that confronting Iran before it achieves a nuclear weapons capability, however complex, will be far less challenging a prospect than confronting a nuclear Iran.

In the interview Friday with the Israel Hayom daily, Barak recalled a speech given in 2003 by the then-Iranian president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who, said Barak, spoke of Israel as being “so small and vulnerable that it is a ‘one-bomb’ nation.

“If one bomb were dropped on it, this nation would not return to its former glory,” Barak quoted Rafsanjani as saying. “After the exchange of blows, Rafsanjani said, Islam would remain and Israel would not remain as it was. He also noted that there need not be any clear markers on the bomb as to where it came from. It could be transported in a shipping container that arrives at some port and simply explodes.”

Added Barak: “I do not delude myself. The moment of truth is approaching. We have to decide what to do about this if the sanctions and diplomacy fail…

“Some say let’s trust the world… I say that in the end we can deal with Iran now or deal with a nuclear Iran that poses a far greater danger… If it obtains a nuclear weapon, it will be very hard to bring it down. Now they are trying to seek immunity for their nuclear program. If they achieve military nuclear capability, for arms, or a threshold in which they can assemble a bomb within 60 days, they will acquire another form of immunity – for the regime.”

Barak recalled Israel being caught off guard in 1973, when it was attacked in the Yom Kippur War and sustained heavy losses. “What happened in 1973? The entire cabinet was blinded and we were forced to pay the price on the battlefield.”

The defense minister also used the interview to castigate several ex-intelligence chiefs and former prime minister Ehud Olmert, who have criticized what they argue is the government’s misguided handling of the Iranian threat, and who have warned that the Netanyahu-Barak duo may be leading Israel into a regional war with dire potential consequences.

Said Barak: “You can trust me when I say this: In the history of the state, there has never been such as orderly decision-making process.”

Soflasnapper
05-04-2012, 05:46 PM
The defense minister also used the interview to castigate several ex-intelligence chiefs and former prime minister Ehud Olmert, who have criticized what they argue is the government’s misguided handling of the Iranian threat, and who have warned that the Netanyahu-Barak duo may be leading Israel into a regional war with dire potential consequences.

Sure, as the recently retired Shin Bet head has stated, Bibi and Barak are messianic fools or psychopaths, and they will use the lame duck/transition period to do things even the Israelis oppose? The retired Shin Bet head says directly that neither of those two men are fit to lead that nation (into hell, where they plan to take it).

Wonderful news, I'm sure, not. All the former Mossad leaders who are not dead or in the current government have expressed similar fears and objections to this current leadership.

Bibi, the man who lies constantly, is a small figure who thinks of himself in global terms. He will probably go down as the worst criminal leader in a greatly foreshortened 21st century, as the modern world is destroyed in a firestorm he sparked for no apparent reason.

LWW
05-05-2012, 10:51 AM
The nightmare scenario is still Obama ordering USvforces to defend Iran.

DiabloViejo
05-05-2012, 12:58 PM
Ah two of our resident nut-jobs advocating for nuclear war and the loss of millions of lives. And you have the gall to say leftists are violent? You and your ilk love war! But I bet you were both too chicken-sh*t to have ever served in the military! Imagine that! How touching..our own little Ted Nugent wannabes--super patriots stewing in their own waste! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Gayle in MD
05-06-2012, 08:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ah two of our resident nut-jobs advocating for nuclear war and the loss of millions of lives. And you have the gall to say leftists are violent? You and your ilk love war! But I bet you were both too chicken-sh*t to have ever served in the military! Imagine that! How touching..our own little Ted Nugent wannabes--super patriots stewing in their own waste! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif </div></div>

Netanyahu is a loose cannon.

Eventually our country is going to have to put this fear mongering threat into a box of some kind, and stop denying that the RW in Israel is just as bad as other terrorist organizations in that region.

Netanyahu needs to be tamped down real good. He's our biggest threat, in reality, and he doesn't give a damn about how his irresponsible war mongering behavior, impacts America's safety, and foreign affairs.

If we end up getting blown up over here, it won't be because of Pakistan, or al Qaeda, it will be because of this irrational liar, Netanyahu.

It's long past time to dump this inhumane country and stop sending them money. Why send money to a bunch of heartless self centered radicals, who flip us the bird, everytime we ask them to compromise for the sake of peace.

Israel is only out for themselves, and they are not really an ally of ours, at this time, anyway. Their true misadventures of inhumannity, don't even make it into the U.S. News! Is there any wonder why that is?

They continue to put the U.S. in a trick bag.

Screw them!

G.

Sev
05-06-2012, 04:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The defense minister also used the interview to castigate several ex-intelligence chiefs and former prime minister Ehud Olmert, who have criticized what they argue is the government’s misguided handling of the Iranian threat, and who have warned that the Netanyahu-Barak duo may be leading Israel into a regional war with dire potential consequences.

Sure, as the recently retired Shin Bet head has stated, Bibi and Barak are messianic fools or psychopaths, and they will use the lame duck/transition period to do things even the Israelis oppose? The retired Shin Bet head says directly that neither of those two men are fit to lead that nation (into hell, where they plan to take it).

Wonderful news, I'm sure, not. All the former Mossad leaders who are not dead or in the current government have expressed similar fears and objections to this current leadership.

Bibi, the man who lies constantly, is a small figure who thinks of himself in global terms. He will probably go down as the worst criminal leader in a greatly foreshortened 21st century, as the modern world is destroyed in a firestorm he sparked for no apparent reason. </div></div>

Personally I wish Ariel Sharon were still alive.
The entire region feared the general.

Sev
05-06-2012, 05:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ah two of our resident nut-jobs advocating for nuclear war and the loss of millions of lives. And you have the gall to say leftists are violent? You and your ilk love war! But I bet you were both too chicken-sh*t to have ever served in the military! Imagine that! How touching..our own little Ted Nugent wannabes--super patriots stewing in their own waste! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif </div></div>

Netanyahu is a loose cannon.

Eventually our country is going to have to put this fear mongering threat into a box of some kind, and stop denying that the RW in Israel is just as bad as other terrorist organizations in that region.

Netanyahu needs to be tamped down real good. He's our biggest threat, in reality, and he doesn't give a damn about how his irresponsible war mongering behavior, impacts America's safety, and foreign affairs.

If we end up getting blown up over here, it won't be because of Pakistan, or al Qaeda, it will be because of this irrational liar, Netanyahu.

It's long past time to dump this inhumane country and stop sending them money. Why send money to a bunch of heartless self centered radicals, who flip us the bird, everytime we ask them to compromise for the sake of peace.

Israel is only out for themselves, and they are not really an ally of ours, at this time, anyway. Their true misadventures of inhumannity, don't even make it into the U.S. News! Is there any wonder why that is?

They continue to put the U.S. in a trick bag.

Screw them!

G.

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America will not do anything to Israel.
The current Putz especially. The last thing he wants to do is expose his antisemitic stripes.

Sev
05-06-2012, 05:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ah two of our resident nut-jobs advocating for nuclear war and the loss of millions of lives. And you have the gall to say leftists are violent? You and your ilk love war! But I bet you were both too chicken-sh*t to have ever served in the military! Imagine that! How touching..our own little Ted Nugent wannabes--super patriots stewing in their own waste! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif </div></div>

Ooop.

A swing and a miss.

Better luck next time Fats. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Gayle in MD
05-07-2012, 05:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ah two of our resident nut-jobs advocating for nuclear war and the loss of millions of lives. And you have the gall to say leftists are violent? You and your ilk love war! But I bet you were both too chicken-sh*t to have ever served in the military! Imagine that! How touching..our own little Ted Nugent wannabes--super patriots stewing in their own waste! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif </div></div>

Netanyahu is a loose cannon.

Eventually our country is going to have to put this fear mongering threat into a box of some kind, and stop denying that the RW in Israel is just as bad as other terrorist organizations in that region.

Netanyahu needs to be tamped down real good. He's our biggest threat, in reality, and he doesn't give a damn about how his irresponsible war mongering behavior, impacts America's safety, and foreign affairs.

If we end up getting blown up over here, it won't be because of Pakistan, or al Qaeda, it will be because of this irrational liar, Netanyahu.

It's long past time to dump this inhumane country and stop sending them money. Why send money to a bunch of heartless self centered radicals, who flip us the bird, everytime we ask them to compromise for the sake of peace.

Israel is only out for themselves, and they are not really an ally of ours, at this time, anyway. Their true misadventures of inhumannity, don't even make it into the U.S. News! Is there any wonder why that is?

They continue to put the U.S. in a trick bag.

Screw them!

G.

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America will not do anything to Israel.
The current Putz especially. The last thing he wants to do is expose his antisemitic stripes.



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Protecting our own country from the blowback from the inevitable Israeli terrorists policies, is not anti-semitic.

Even Zbigniew Brzezinski says that the RW in Israel, are as much a terrorist organization as Hammas, Hezbollah, or any other inhumane terrorist organization.

It's time for the Jewish folks in our country to become Americans, and stop this absurd support for irrational and violent Israeli policies, stop giving them a bye for eternity, all because they were once so horribly treated.

That was long ago. It isn't a perpetual approval for them to do whatever they want, without observing international law.

They are now exploiting and exaggerating the threat from Iran, trying to hype it up for another RW Neocon war.

It's nothing but another overblown non existant threat, Like Iraq, in fact, just like Iraq, and which the Neocon, American Enterprise Institute, promotes, so that they can all make more money off the blood of our young troops, and stuff more of it into their pockets.

AEI, is nothing but the Jewish Military Industrail-Congressional complex, just as the last honorable Republican President warned us long ago, President Eisenhower.

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<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Netanyahu holding elections so he is free to deal with Iran in September-October

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More proof of Israel's overall attitude about what they do. They want to do as they please, annd screw the blowback on us!

That's who they are!

Do we want what is best for our own country, or should we continue with policies that allow wealthy Jewish Americans, involved with AEI, choose it for us, when their policies are clearly always their choice to do what fills their own pockets, bad for our country, loss of blood and treasure for Americans, and their uppermost concern is always ONLY what they think is best for their homeland, war profiteers, and bad for America?

Soflasnapper
05-07-2012, 11:09 AM
Personally I wish Ariel Sharon were still alive.
The entire region feared the general.

He is still alive, actually.

eg8r
05-07-2012, 12:24 PM
LOL, now that is funny. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r