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Qtec
05-10-2012, 03:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Meet the man selected by Indiana Republicans yesterday to replace Dick Lugar, Tea Party nominee Richard Mourdock, whose definition of bipartisanship is nothing like your own.

<span style="color: #3333FF"> MOURDOCK: I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view. If we [win the House, Senate, and White House], bipartisanship means they have to come our way, and if were successful in getting the numbers, well work towards that.</span>

Not-coincidentally, that perspective is shared by the Tea Party freshmen in the House of Representatives, and it would seem that same view of what constitutes bipartisanship is slowly being transplanted into the senate.

Granted, the senate isnt a bastion of cooperation as of now, but its certainly far more manageable than the House of Boehner.

Mourdock was endorsed by everyone from Grover Norquist, to Sarah Palin, Eric Cantor, and Rick Santorum. This is their vision for congress and for America.

Governor Mitch Daniels endorsed Dick Lugar, so you can scratch him off the list for any office higher than governor. He may not even be re-elected as governor </div></div> link (http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/05/bipartisanship-how-does-it-work.html)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of years ago when conservative activists were making noise about primarying Lugar, former Republican senator and UN ambassador John Danforth told the New York Times,<span style='font-size: 14pt'> If Dick Lugar, having served five terms in the U.S. Senate and being the most respected person in the Senate and the leading authority on foreign policy, is seriously challenged by anybody in the Republican Party, we have gone so far overboard that we are beyond redemption.

Apparently, that time has come.</span> </div></div>

Q

eg8r
05-10-2012, 08:31 AM
Isn't it funny how completely 180 this is from Obama's version of bipartisanship? Obama chose to just tell the Reps to shut up he is now President.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-10-2012, 12:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't it funny how completely 180 this is from Obama's version of bipartisanship? Obama chose to just tell the Reps to shut up he is now President.

eg8r </div></div>

President Obama has never told any Republican to shut up, not once has he ever uttered those words..

G.

Gayle in MD
05-10-2012, 12:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Meet the man selected by Indiana Republicans yesterday to replace Dick Lugar, Tea Party nominee Richard Mourdock, whose definition of bipartisanship is nothing like your own.

<span style="color: #3333FF"> MOURDOCK: I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view. If we [win the House, Senate, and White House], bipartisanship means they have to come our way, and if were successful in getting the numbers, well work towards that.</span>

Not-coincidentally, that perspective is shared by the Tea Party freshmen in the House of Representatives, and it would seem that same view of what constitutes bipartisanship is slowly being transplanted into the senate.

Granted, the senate isnt a bastion of cooperation as of now, but its certainly far more manageable than the House of Boehner.

Mourdock was endorsed by everyone from Grover Norquist, to Sarah Palin, Eric Cantor, and Rick Santorum. This is their vision for congress and for America.

Governor Mitch Daniels endorsed Dick Lugar, so you can scratch him off the list for any office higher than governor. He may not even be re-elected as governor </div></div> link (http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/05/bipartisanship-how-does-it-work.html)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of years ago when conservative activists were making noise about primarying Lugar, former Republican senator and UN ambassador John Danforth told the New York Times,<span style='font-size: 14pt'> If Dick Lugar, having served five terms in the U.S. Senate and being the most respected person in the Senate and the leading authority on foreign policy, is seriously challenged by anybody in the Republican Party, we have gone so far overboard that we are beyond redemption.

Apparently, that time has come.</span> </div></div>

Q </div></div>

The radical nature of the Republican Party, the whole "My way or the highway" is a stance which I believe they will regret. No patriotic American would want to see this quagmire congtinue.

Dick Lugar was very respected, and very knowledgable about foreign Affairs.

It is really a shame that this RW NUTJOB, with the help of out- of-state money, has managed to push Lugar out.

Republicans have obstructed things so badly, that even the Supreme Court has demanded action from them to approve nominations for Federal Judgeships due to the backlog they have created in the courts with their obstruction.

It's really disgusting to watch.

They are sent to Washington D.C. to work together for compromise.

That's what governing is about, with checks and balances built in for good reasons.

By saying that there will be no compromises made, they are saying they refuse to perform their own job description.

Sucks! They are hurting the whole country. This isn't a one party dictatorship.

G.

llotter
05-10-2012, 12:29 PM
Republicans are the party of appeasement. 'Better switch and fight' is the well-known cry of the Stupid Party as they retreat en mass from the front.

If Republicans want to be a legitimate party, they must represent something different from the Democrats, not just a weak sister. From my point of view, I am happy to see some politicians on the right show a backbone stiff enough to change the direction our beloved country is going. Appeasing the Evil Party is not doing the right thimg.

Soflasnapper
05-10-2012, 12:50 PM
Quite a misrepresentation there, even of the event to which you refer, which was a joke and not how you stated it.

You must have forgotten the months of meetings between the couple of Dems and couple of GOP senators, the gang of six, where the ACA was negotiated endlessly to the long delay and near failure of its passage.

Fact is, the reason Obama got anything past the 60 vote threshold in the time before Al Franken was allowed to be seated in 2010 to make 60 Dem votes was that he brought the 3-5 moderate GOP senators along and on-board for the cloture vote, by compromising and modifying the legislation to their positions.

eg8r
05-10-2012, 01:13 PM
LOL, you thinking I misrepresented Obama is so blatantly intellectually dishonest it is sad. I would say you forgot what happened but I don't that is so...what is really happening is that you know I am dead on correct and you want to change history to soften the damage Obama has done. Sorry, that isn't going to happen.

eg8r

eg8r
05-10-2012, 01:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Republicans are the party of appeasement.</div></div>I disagree. They have held their ground for the most part and have tried as best as possible to limit the damage of Obama. They did give in on the HC bill which is sad but other things they fought for.

Both parties do resemble each other though.

eg8r

eg8r
05-10-2012, 01:16 PM
LOL, at your age memory is the first to go right? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-10-2012, 01:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, at your age memory is the first to go right? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r </div></div>

Please post proof that the president told any Republican to shut up.

G.

eg8r
05-10-2012, 02:30 PM
LOL, memory is the first to go.

eg8r

LWW
05-11-2012, 05:18 AM
So you are saying the people have no right to choose who represents them?

Gayle in MD
05-11-2012, 05:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, memory is the first to go.

eg8r </div></div>

Just as always, no proof of your accusation. You just make it all up as you go along, and then follow up with some rude insult. Same ol' same ol'

G.

LWW
05-12-2012, 05:50 AM
The lefts's idea of this is single party rule.