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Gayle in MD
05-21-2012, 04:36 PM
http://www.alan.com/2012/05/20/amendment...orization-bill/ (http://www.alan.com/2012/05/20/amendment-to-legalize-propaganda-inserted-to-defense-authorization-bill/)


Amendment to Legalize Propaganda Inserted to Defense Authorization Bill


House Republicans have added an amendment to the defense spending bill that would allow the use of propaganda directed at Americans.

The amendment would “strike the current ban on domestic dissemination” of propaganda material produced by the State Department and the Pentagon, according to the summary of the law at the House Rules Committee’s official website…

The new law would give sweeping powers to the State Department and Pentagon to push television, radio, newspaper, and social media onto the U.S. public. “It removes the protection for Americans,” says a Pentagon official who is concerned about the law. “It removes oversight from the people who want to put out this information. There are no checks and balances. No one knows if the information is accurate, partially accurate, or entirely false.”

According to this official, “senior public affairs” officers within the Department of Defense want to “get rid” of Smith-Mundt and other restrictions because it prevents information activities designed to prop up unpopular policies—like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.



<span style="color: #CC0000"> It's official friends. Republicans want to legalize propaganda. They want to have the right to lie to all of us, about anything and everything, and not be held to any legal account!

This takes the cake!</span>

Soflasnapper
05-22-2012, 02:17 PM
This is one of the go-to moves.

If something is illegal, and they are doing it, make it legal!

Retroactively, if necessary.

Same with the torture, er, enhanced interrogation. They didn't get the legal clearance before they did it. They ginned that up after they had been doing it already.

In terms of the propaganda domestically, the Pentagon has had several formal programs that did just that (Total Information Awareness, anyone?). The CIA has had formal programs to do that as well, back to Reagan's DCI Bill Casey, and probably before that.

Gayle in MD
05-22-2012, 04:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is one of the go-to moves.

If something is illegal, and they are doing it, make it legal!

Retroactively, if necessary.

Same with the torture, er, enhanced interrogation. They didn't get the legal clearance before they did it. They ginned that up after they had been doing it already.

In terms of the propaganda domestically, the Pentagon has had several formal programs that did just that (Total Information Awareness, anyone?). The CIA has had formal programs to do that as well, back to Reagan's DCI Bill Casey, and probably before that. </div></div>

Yep, it's a Republican thing. Like Q.'s by line, first they leak a story, then they go on all of the Sunday Morning programs, and quoted the story they leaked. I'd say the worst Republican President of all of the contemporary presidents, say, since the end of WWII, is hard to single out. I think from my reading, the worst was probably Reagan, for lies and deceit, all around un-American activities, and the best at talking his way out of everything, while he was laying the groundwork for a fascist country.....and W. Bush, just as bad, probably even worse. Unprecedented corruption, lies, deceit, incompetence, law breaking, war crimes, you name it, Bush did it, not to mention, pure negligence.....

G.

Soflasnapper
05-22-2012, 05:29 PM
At one time I thought Bush 41 was ok, and Reagan a bum.

Little did I realize that Bush 41 made Reagan look a saint.

Bush 41 more or less took over the federal government as acting president with the most concentration of power into one man's hands that can be imagined.

He caused the creation of several joint task forces, such as on international drug trafficking, arms trafficking, etc., all of which reported to him. He was the original super-czar.

Drugs brought into this country went up 500% under his super-czarship of directing all these efforts, and eventually, he got two sons in the states where most of this drug importation went on.

Few know of it, but when he had his brief DCI tenure, the DEA at the time wanted to assassinate Noreiga. Bush 41 stepped in and stopped that effort. Then, when his probable partner in drugs eventually got a little uppity and wouldn't keep training the Contras there without a big hike in his drug money share, Bush expressed 'shock, shock!' to find out Noreiga was transhipping drugs through Panama and laundering the money there? Complete lie, but one he had no risk from saying.

The acronym BFEE is not so far off the mark.

DiabloViejo
05-23-2012, 12:51 AM
Reagan knew about the drug trafficking.

Noriega was our boy in Central America. He (Noriega) facilitated the CIA's cocaine trafficking during the time when the US congress had cut off funding for the Contras by allowing CIA C-130's loaded with cocaine to operate freely in and out of Panama and allowing them to use Panamanian airfields. Bush 41, as a former head of the CIA, and VP during the Reagan years, was well aware of Noriega's work and his profits from the drug business on behalf of the CIA.

The main reason we went after him was to shut him up.

The CIA was also responsible for the crack epidemic of the 80's, this was first reported in the San Jose (CA) Mercury News. The story was immediately squashed.

More reporting on the CIA/Contra/Drugs connection was broadcast on a PBS 'Frontline' expose called "Drugs, Guns, and The CIA" but that too was squashed.

Soflasnapper
05-23-2012, 03:09 PM
I agree.

One of the first steps taken by Casey to prepare for the Contra effort was to make an arrangement with William French Smith, the AG, to end the requirement that the CIA inform the Justice Dept. about any drug-related matters they came across. Historical fact.

Gayle in MD
05-24-2012, 04:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree.

One of the first steps taken by Casey to prepare for the Contra effort was to make an arrangement with William French Smith, the AG, to end the requirement that the CIA inform the Justice Dept. about any drug-related matters they came across. Historical fact. </div></div>

I agree as well.

Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Bush...all three of them crooks, liars, and worse.

G.