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Qtec
05-27-2012, 01:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wisconsin Governor's Recall Election Debate pt.2 </div></div>

Walker gets crushed.

Watch the Q at the 7.20 mark. watch it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Ur36FEyhQ&feature=relmfu)

The BIG difference between the two.

Q....

Qtec
05-27-2012, 03:30 AM
Not to mention the corruption scandal. Start at the 10.40 mark.

Walker, "I've had a high level of integrity, <span style='font-size: 23pt'>all the way to when I was an Eagle Scout</span>".

LMFAO

Q.. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Soflasnapper
05-27-2012, 04:42 PM
Who IS paying for his criminal defense fund, the only such fund among all governors?

And why is it a CRIMINAL defense fund, anyway? He's 'not a target,' as he says, or is he? Smaller fish lead to the bigger fish.

I am a medium fish.

Qtec
06-03-2012, 05:15 AM
Apparently, the excuse is he needs this money for lawyers to read emails!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On the campaign trail Wednesday, Barrett repeated his demand that Gov. Walker release information related to his legal defense fund, saying its existence is a sign of deep trouble.

“$260,000. We are not talking about a parking ticket here. There is clearly something that is going on, and Scott Walker is the one person in this state who can tell the people of this state exactly what his involvement has been,” Barrett said.

Barrett says if Gov. Walker is paying bills for former associates, he could be buying their loyalty.

“Having someone pay the legal bills you otherwise would be personally liable for is at a much different level,” Barrett said.

Gov. Scott Walker has transferred $100,000 to his legal defense fund he established related to an ongoing criminal probe that’s already ensnared some of his former aides and associates in Milwaukee County.

Walker’s latest campaign finance report filed with the state on Tuesday, May 29th shows transfers of $70,000 and $30,000 out of his campaign account to the Scott Walker Trust. He previously transferred $60,000 into the account.

In response, Gov. Walker said Wednesday the money is not going to pay legal bills for any of his former associates. “It’s purely about our process to continue cooperating,” Gov. Walker said.

Gov. Walker says his legal fund is simply to pay lawyers to examine emails and other documents in question as part of the probe.

“There are thousands of documents we’re helping them out with. It doesn’t make any sense for me as governor to spend my time — hours, over days, doing that. We have other people doing that so I can do my job,” Gov. Walker said </div></div>

Meanwhile,with hindsight we know Walker is a serial liar.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott Walker lies about collective bargaining talks up power of government and taking power of unions </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> You say this is not about the unions but about balancing the budget.</div></div>

And he lies.

divide and conquer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1S_Pxw2n-U)

NAILED&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;BIG TIME.

Q..........Walker.........worm.

Gayle in MD
06-03-2012, 07:15 AM
He has done nothing BUT lie throughout!

If he isn't recalled, it will be proof that Repiglicans main strategy for the coming election is to throw the coming election!

The sad part is that the righties applaud thrown elections, too dumb to realize that it hurts all of us whe Repiglicans continue to break election laws.

Just look at what Rick Scott is doing in Florida!

Why is it always the Repig who are doing the purging of voters, and making it harder for people, annd particularly peo9ple of color, to vote? Twenty percent of those purged already in Florida, were registered voters, in a heavily democratic county. Florida is restricting registration drives and registration with restrictive regulations!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Florida Voter Purge Will Continue, Defying Federal Warning </span>


Florida will defy a federal warning to stop purging people the state suspects aren't U.S. citizens from voter registration rolls.

Despite a Justice Department letter, objections from county elections officials and evidence that a disproportionate number are voters of color, Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner's office planned to continue scrubbing the election rolls, a spokesman said Friday. Gov. Rick Scott (R) ordered the search for potentially ineligible voters.

“We have an obligation to make sure the voter rolls are accurate and we are going to continue forward and do everything that we can legally do to make sure than ineligible voters cannot vote,” said Chris Cate, a spokesman for Detzner. “We are firmly committed to doing the right thing and preventing ineligible voters from being able to cast a ballot. We are not going to give up our efforts to make sure the voter rolls are accurate."

Justice Department officials declined to comment on Florida’s plans.

In a letter issued late Thursday, T. Christian Herren Jr., who leads the Justice Department voting section, told Detzner that the state's plan to review the status of the 2,600 suspected non-citizens and purge them if the voters fail to prove citizenship appears to violate the 1964 Voting Rights Act and the National Voter Registration Act.



Detzner has said previously that his agency has identified 182,000 voters who were not citizens by comparing voter rolls and driver's license databases. The state's driver's license data contains some citizenship information. Beginning in April, Detzner asked county election officials statewide to contact 2,600 suspect voters by mail. The letters said those who failed to provide evidence of citizenship within 30 days would be purged. They also warned that casting a ballot when ineligible constitutes a felony.

"The Florida Secretary of State is being recalcitrant," said Judith Browne Dianis, co-director of The Advancement Project., a Washington-based voting rights advocacy group that last month asked the Justice Department to investigate. "He wants to move forward despite federal notice of illegality and supervisors of elections' refusal to purge voters. He should just quit it."

Florida is among a small number states, mostly in the South, covered by Section V of the Voting Rights Act, a 1965 law that reinforces voting rights guaranteed in the Constitution. In five Florida counties and other states, election officials have a history of such of egregious and creative efforts to suppress black and Latino votes that any changes in voting–related policy or procedure must first be approved by the Justice Department or a panel of federal judges, Browne Dianis said.

Florida failed to get clearance for its purge or its methods to identify the people the state suspects are non-citizens.

Voting rights advocates have also pointed out the state motor vehicles database is an unreliable way to determine the citizenship of voters, because many people become citizens between license renewals.

Moreover, in an initial list of nearly 3,000 voters the state suspects are non-citizens, blacks and Latinos were disproportionately represented, a coalition of advocacy groups said in a statement Thursday. A Miami Herald analysis
found nearly 60 percent of the people on the list to be Latino. Hispanic voters constitute just 13 percent of the state's electorate, according to federal data.

The National Voter Registration Act requires states to make every effort to monitor and maintain clean and accurate voter rolls, Browne Dianis said. But the same law also says efforts must take place 90 days or more before a federal election begins. Florida voters are set to vote in a primary Aug. 14 that includes candidates seeking congressional seats -- meaning the state has missed the three-month deadline.

Florida interprets the laws governing voting differently, said Cate, the secretary of state's spokesman. And the state's efforts have already proven effective, he said. Cate pointed to Miami-Dade County, where warning letters were first mailed to suspect voters.

Miami-Dade County election officials issued 1,570 warning letters, said Christina White, the county chief deputy supervisor of elections. Of these, 13 people responded indicating they are not citizens and have been removed from the voter rolls. One of the voters cast one ballot in 1996. Another voted once in 2000 and again in 2004. Their names will be forwarded to the state’s attorney’s office for possible prosecution as required by law, White said.

However, Miami-Dade County will not purge other voters from the rolls because of the large number of citizens included on the state’s suspect voter list. Nearly 450 voters who received warning letters provided proof of citizenship and another 35 have made plans to do so. About 1,000 voters have not responded, White said.

“The law says that the supervisor, only on a preponderance of evidence, should be removing people form the rolls,” said White. “We just didn’t feel that we didn’t have the preponderance of evidence that the supervisor needs to make a call on someone’s eligibility at this time that we haven’t heard from.”

Election officials in other counties around the state -– both Democrats and Republicans -- have questioned the state’s suspect voter list and have expressed indignation about the purge.

In Broward County, a 91-year-old World War II veteran was forced to provide proof of his citizenship in order to remain on the voter rolls. And in Seminole County, an election official tweeted a picture of himself with one man who received a warning letter. In the picture, the two men stood side by side, holding the suspect voter’s U.S. passport.

On Friday, a lawyer with the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections issued a memo suggesting that all 67 counties stop the purge until the concerns raised by the Justice Department are addressed by the state or a court order. The association is a trade group for county election officials.

State election officials in Colorado and New Mexico, states with significant Latino populations, have also launched efforts to identify and purge suspected non-citizens from voter rolls. Justice Department officials declined to comment Friday on those efforts.

"We all benefit when [voter] list maintenance occurs within the bounds of federal law,” said Myrna Perez, senior council at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice. “Nobody benefits form inaccurate voter rolls. But it’s also certainly the case that you have wildly different things happening not only from state to state, but sometimes from county to county.”

States should make their methods for identifying and purging voters known and give voters time to object or correct errors before an election, said Perez.
</div></div>



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/02/florida-voter-purge-federal-warning_n_1564131.html.


Don't tell me the Repiglican Party is not racist, homophobic and misogynistic!
G.

Soflasnapper
06-03-2012, 12:28 PM
Sadly, this is only the latest round of voter suppression, and the destruction of the basis of our country's legitimacy-- the consent of the governed.

We are well down this road, and what is grotesque is that there was a whimper, not a bang, in response. The fix is in, and has been. We had two presidential elections marred with titanic fraud in the W time, but it wasn't a polite topic of conversation for our opinion leaders and supposedly independent watchdog alleged free (but wholly corporate owned and quisling) press. Anyone trying to push an inquiry on what was a very strong evidential basis was sidelined as a conspiracy theorist sore loser who hated America. If the charges were addressed at all. Mainly they were deep-sixed, swept under the rug.

We've been marching toward corporate control since the 19th century, as Lincoln feared and wrote of in a letter, and as the original Founding Fathers warned was the key battle for our republic-- the power of the money interests arrayed against the good of the people. That war has featured losses in almost all its engaged battles, and perhaps, at such a late date in the process, it is a lost war and they have won.

eg8r
06-03-2012, 05:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is it always the Repig who are doing the purging of voters</div></div>The answer is so clear I am surprised you cannot figure it out. Let's see if this helps...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Florida will defy a federal warning to stop purging people the state suspects aren't U.S. citizens from voter registration rolls.
</div></div>So what we have is a group of Republicans who want to make sure the only people voting are those that are US citizens. Why might you ask? Well first is that it is against our laws for a non-citizen to vote and because non-citizens tend to appeciate the government handouts and vote Dem. The Dems want to keep these people in the voting booths where they can try and keep the Dem power.

All of this is very easy to see but then again you vote (D) all the way so why on earth would you really be seeking the truth.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-04-2012, 07:55 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is it always the Repig who are doing the purging of voters</div></div>The answer is so clear I am surprised you cannot figure it out. Let's see if this helps...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Florida will defy a federal warning to stop purging people the state suspects aren't U.S. citizens from voter registration rolls.
</div></div>So what we have is a group of Republicans who want to make sure the only people voting are those that are US citizens. Why might you ask? Well first is that it is against our laws for a non-citizen to vote and because non-citizens tend to appeciate the government handouts and vote Dem. The Dems want to keep these people in the voting booths where they can try and keep the Dem power.

All of this is very easy to see but then again you vote (D) all the way so why on earth would you really be seeking the truth.

eg8r </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what we have is a group of Republicans who want to make sure the only people voting are those that are US citizens. </div></div>

LMAO!

You're such a joke!

Repiglicans are doing what they always do, trying to keep as many voters who vote traditionally for Democrats, from voting at all!


I'm sure this won't be their only crooked method for throwing this election.

The last time they pulled this BS, only eleven people were found to have voted illegally.

It's just a huge scam, prosecuted by a proven Crook, the Florida Governor, possibly the biggest current governor crook, or, if not the biggest, second only to Walker!

It was, after all, a Repiglican who wrote the book, "How To Throw An Election!" when he finally got out of jail for throwing the Presidential election in 2004, in Ohio.

And NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Nothing could make me vote for a REPIGLICAN! Some of us have common sense! Some of us don't vote for FASCISTS!

G.

LWW
06-05-2012, 03:08 AM
You can smell the fear coming from the left.

Gayle in MD
06-05-2012, 06:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sadly, this is only the latest round of voter suppression, and the destruction of the basis of our country's legitimacy-- the consent of the governed.

We are well down this road, and what is grotesque is that there was a whimper, not a bang, in response. The fix is in, and has been. We had two presidential elections marred with titanic fraud in the W time, but it wasn't a polite topic of conversation for our opinion leaders and supposedly independent watchdog alleged free (but wholly corporate owned and quisling) press. Anyone trying to push an inquiry on what was a very strong evidential basis was sidelined as a conspiracy theorist sore loser who hated America. If the charges were addressed at all. Mainly they were deep-sixed, swept under the rug.

We've been marching toward corporate control since the 19th century, as Lincoln feared and wrote of in a letter, and as the original Founding Fathers warned was the key battle for our republic-- the power of the money interests arrayed against the good of the people. That war has featured losses in almost all its engaged battles, and perhaps, at such a late date in the process, it is a lost war and they have won. </div></div>


<span style="color: #CC0000"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Then we must work harder to remove Repiglicans from office.

I refuse to give up on saving our Constitutional rights!

Repiglicans, the nutjob religious right, corporate greedy thieves, in concert with Repigican appointed fascists on the Supreme Court, will end up being the targets, because Americans, IMO, won't continue to ignore what is happening to our country, as the numbers of those being oppressed, and denied their rights, continue to grow.

If Walker wins in Wisconsin, there will be riots in the streets. Clearly, the people do not want him, and the impact of out of state money, complimets of the insane, unAmerican, unconstitutional Citizens United Decision, will be far more clearly in the spotlight.

Sometimes I believe that the best thing that <u>could</u> happen, would be for all of that unidentified, out of state, billionaire money to succeed, throw the Wisc. election, as Repiglicans on the SC intended, so that more hard working, poor and middle class Americans would wake up to what is happening to our country!

We should have had millions of Americans demonstrating on the steps of the Supreme Court, after the <span style='font-size: 14pt'>RATS</span>:
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>R</span>oberts,
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>A</span>lito,
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>T</span>homas and
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>S</span>calia</span>, threw the Constitution out!

Imagine what this country will come to, if a president Romney, were in place to appoint more fascist Repiglicans to the S.C.!

while I understand what you're saying...I still believe in the American spirit, and beieve there is a revolution in the making.

This is the time to fight for our country!

This is no time to give up, and give in.

G. </span>

eg8r
06-05-2012, 06:35 AM
LOL, another partisan hack post made by our resident partisan hack.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-05-2012, 06:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, another partisan hack post made by our resident partisan hack.

eg8r </div></div>

Another pointless post, more of Ed's childish personal attacks.

No one here is any more partisan than YOU!

The difference between us, is that I say right up front:

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPIGLICAN!</span>

While you, hypocritically deny your own partisanship.

G.

LWW
06-05-2012, 06:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, another partisan hack post made by our resident partisan hack.

eg8r </div></div>

You know that the cabal views the truth as n attack, and congrat on being the cabal's ENEMY DU JOUR.

eg8r
06-05-2012, 07:20 AM
LOL, yep one of the lefty idiots here said using the truth was attacking them. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r

eg8r
06-05-2012, 07:20 AM
LOL more proof you are a partisan hack. As far as me never admitting my partisanship, you are wrong. However generally what happens is that you run your mouth before comprehending what you are reading. Seldom am I defending Republicans but rather I am just defending the person (read: NOT the Republican) from your lying attacks. I have already stated many times that I did nto vote for McCain/Palin and that I will not vote for Romney/??? Kind of hard to be partisan if that is the case but I recognize you are too far gone to even comprehend that.

eg8r

LWW
06-05-2012, 08:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, <s>yep one</s> MOST, IF NOT ALL of the lefty idiots here said using the truth was attacking them. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r </div></div>

I fixed that for you.

LWW
06-05-2012, 08:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL more proof you are a partisan hack. As far as me never admitting my partisanship, you are wrong. However generally what happens is that you run your mouth before comprehending what you are reading. Seldom am I defending Republicans but rather I am just defending the person (read: NOT the Republican) from your lying attacks. I have already stated many times that I did nto vote for McCain/Palin and that I will not vote for Romney/??? Kind of hard to be partisan if that is the case but I recognize you are too far gone to even comprehend that.

eg8r </div></div>

Don't fall for the Alinsky tactics.

It is a pillar of the left to assign arguments to a person, that they never in fact made, in an effort to force a defense from them.

Gayle in MD
06-05-2012, 08:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL more proof you are a partisan hack. As far as me never admitting my partisanship, you are wrong.


<span style="color: #CC0000"> No I am not</span>


However generally what happens is that you run your mouth before comprehending what you are reading.


<span style="color: #CC0000">LOL, I am far from the ONLY one here who has admonished you for failing to comprehend the subject, changing the subject to distract from it, annd failing completely to comprehend what the writer is saying.

YOU are THE King of Wishful thinking. </span>
Seldom am I defending Republicans but rather I am just defending the person (read: NOT the Republican) from your lying attacks.


<span style="color: #CC0000">No that is truly a joke! Everyone here knows your attacks come after someone from the left, writes a truthful and accurate statement of Repiglican lies annd failures.

Doesn't get much more partisan tha that.

You are also known for constant personal attacks, unable to post without them. </span>


I have already stated many times that I did nto vote for McCain/Palin and that I will not vote for Romney/??? Kind of hard to be partisan if that is the case but I recognize you are too far gone to even comprehend that.

eg8r </div></div>

<span style="color: #CC0000">Too lazy to go to the voting booth, but plenty of energy for insulting others who do not agree with your far out denials?



LOL, more proof that you just love to argue with and insult others, then, isn't it! Not at all a matter of principle, for you, just another opportunity to get nasty and insulting.

We all already knew that.

G</span>.

eg8r
06-05-2012, 08:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doesn't get much more partisan than that.
</div></div>I defend the person from your lies. As far as not getting any more partisan than that, well let's look at the BS you post to see which is more partisan...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: partisan hack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Nothing could make me vote for a REPIGLICAN! </div></div> Oh wait there is more stupid partisanship from the resident partisan hack...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: partisan hack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPIGLICAN!</div></div>Both of those in the same thread. To quote you, "Doesn't get much more partisan than that."

Sorry hack, but no one is more of a partisan hack than you are.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-05-2012, 09:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doesn't get much more partisan than that.
</div></div>I defend the person from your lies. As far as not getting any more partisan than that, well let's look at the BS you post to see which is more partisan...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: partisan hack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Nothing could make me vote for a REPIGLICAN! </div></div> Oh wait there is more stupid partisanship from the resident partisan hack...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: partisan hack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPIGLICAN!</div></div>Both of those in the same thread. To quote you, "Doesn't get much more partisan than that."

Sorry hack, but no one is more of a partisan hack than you are.

eg8r </div></div>


Sorry, little man, I couldn't care less what you think!

G.

eg8r
06-05-2012, 11:57 AM
LOL, well granny actually your insistence on responding is proof that what I think is exactly what you care about.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
06-05-2012, 12:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can smell the fear coming from the left. </div></div>

As the giant boa constrictor of the money power ratchets ever tighter on the throat of the country, yes we are in fear. It may already be too late, but if not, surely, the midnight hour is looming.

Now that their tricks with the GOP-owned electronic voting machine companies are better known, they go back to basics, to suppress the votes of their opponents.

Let me explain to you, unless you are in the master of the universe class of the .01%, this should frighten you as well. The happy talk people who at least like this because they hate the left or Democrats have no idea they will be equally crushed below the jack-booted thugs, who are not your friends, do not like you or any kind of real republic form of government, and will not discriminate when this country is more fully enslaved.

Gayle in MD
06-05-2012, 12:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can smell the fear coming from the left. </div></div>

As the giant boa constrictor of the money power ratchets ever tighter on the throat of the country, yes we are in fear. It may already be too late, but if not, surely, the midnight hour is looming.

Now that their tricks with the GOP-owned electronic voting machine companies are better known, they go back to basics, to suppress the votes of their opponents.

Let me explain to you, unless you are in the master of the universe class of the .01%, this should frighten you as well. The happy talk people who at least like this because they hate the left or Democrats have no idea they will be equally crushed below the jack-booted thugs, who are not your friends, do not like you or any kind of real republic form of government, and will not discriminate when this country is more fully enslaved. </div></div>

So true!

G.

LWW
06-06-2012, 04:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wisconsin Governor's Recall Election Debate pt.2 </div></div>

Walker gets crushed.

Watch the Q at the 7.20 mark. watch it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Ur36FEyhQ&feature=relmfu)

The BIG difference between the two.

Q.... </div></div>

So how bad did he get crushed last night?