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LWW
06-20-2012, 04:01 AM
<span style='font-size: 26pt'>OBAMATRONS UNITE! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161817/Obamas-grandfather-Stanley-Armour-Dunham-tortured-British.html)

WE SIMPLY MUST BELIEVE THE <s>LIES</s> <s>MYTHS</s> <s>FABRICATIONS</s> <s>FANTASIES</s> "TRUTHS" PROCLAIMED TO US IN THE GOSPEL OF DEAR LEADER!</span>

This is where a cabal member insists that just because the book is full of lies doesn't mean that it isn't all true.

Soflasnapper
06-20-2012, 09:49 AM
Possibly inaccurate accounts of his ancestors, which he GOT FROM HIS ANCESTORS as part of a family tradition, are not his invention.

If he exaggerated or invented all the 'troubling' aspects of his life for which he's accused of being a radical or having been radicalized (possibly in order to be seen as more authentically a person sharing the African-American experience), then this is GOOD news, showing those suspicions and criticisms are based on inaccurate accounting.

If any of his recounted experiences relied on his subjective reaction, he may well have had these exact subjective reactions, making them true accounts, whatever the objective account would say in contrast.

Did he lie about his Texas Air National Guard flying experience, to say he 'continued flying for several years' instead of admitting he had been grounded for a refusal to take his flight surgeon physical as ordered? And then went AWOL? No, that was the guy before him whose bio lied about what were actually serious matters.

LWW
06-20-2012, 11:23 AM
As always you slavishly defend the regime.

llotter
06-20-2012, 02:38 PM
Invent a narrative to fit the ideology is SOP for the Lefties.

LWW
06-20-2012, 05:07 PM
They only believe what thy are told that they believe.

Grapenut
06-21-2012, 05:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8

Shirley's got this one covered.

Nut

Soflasnapper
06-21-2012, 08:26 AM
Everybody's belief about his family tree history is what he was told. Undeniable.

eg8r
06-21-2012, 09:25 AM
That is a absolute fallacy. If that was true then you would never have websites like Ancestry.com. There will always be people who question what they are told.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-21-2012, 10:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everybody's belief about his family his history is what he was told. Undeniable. </div></div>

The author of the recent book about President Obama, has already stated a number of times, in interviews, that the president's mother glorified his father to the president, leaving out the bad parts, annd focusing on the good parts.

The author also stated that became obvious, through interviews with relatives in the president's family.

Pretty smart of his mother, unlike many single mothers, who demonize the men who fathered their kids, to their kids, she knew that would not be the best way to have her son relate to his own father, who was, at the very least, a very brilliant man, in spite of his many other psychological issues, obviously.

Interesting also, that Reagan's father was an alcoholic, and a difficult man. Yet, I don't recall anyone ever using that information against Reagan.

We don't get to choose our parents, and IMO, the more difficult ones childhood was, the more credit one would deserve for having overcome those difficulties, and having made something good of ones life, something that is positive, and worthwhile.

I don't think there is a family existing that doesn't glorify their ancestors, through word of mouth down through the generations, in one form or other.

Anyone who has watched a few episodes of Who Do You Think You Are would have enough sense to realize that much about life and people!

These ridiculous, RW demonizing and unfactual threads aren't even worth reading.

G.

Soflasnapper
06-21-2012, 12:24 PM
Look up the Alexa ratings for Ancestry.com, and realize that only a tiny percentage of the people take these steps. All those not doing it (the vast majority) rely on family traditions and what the elders of their family relay as to what happened.

Even going to Ancestry.com is only relying on other peoples' accounts, and cannot take the place of intimate biographical details that would only be known to close confidants or family members. Many such intimate details, relayed long after the person may have passed away, are inherently uncheckable, except by other surviving confidants or other family members, which run you into the same issue of uncheckability and questions of reliability.

LWW
06-21-2012, 04:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a absolute fallacy. If that was true then you would never have websites like Ancestry.com. There will always be people who question what they are told.

eg8r </div></div>

But none of them are Obama voters.

DiabloViejo
06-21-2012, 04:53 PM
Your local GOP HQ called, they want to know if you swallow. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Soflasnapper
06-21-2012, 06:42 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a absolute fallacy. If that was true then you would never have websites like Ancestry.com. There will always be people who question what they are told.

eg8r </div></div>

But none of them are Obama voters. </div></div>

Alexa says they tend to be single women over 45 with no kids. Specifically white women of that kind.

Gayle in MD
06-22-2012, 07:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Invent a narrative to fit the ideology is SOP for the Lefties. </div></div>

Accuse the other side of what your side is famous for, is SOP for righties.

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Gayle in MD
06-22-2012, 07:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a absolute fallacy. If that was true then you would never have websites like Ancestry.com. There will always be people who question what they are told.

eg8r </div></div>

Apparently, not on the right:

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Yes, Iraq Definitely Had WMD, Vast Majority Of Polled Republicans Insist</span>

by Dan Fromkin

WASHINGTON -- How misinformed are Republicans about world affairs? If presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's assertion that Russia is "without question our number one geopolitical foe" is any indication, then the answer would appear to be very.

A new poll supports that theory.

The poll, constructed by Dartmouth government professor Benjamin Valentino and conducted by YouGov from April 26 to May 2, found that fully 63 percent of Republican respondents still believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the U.S. invaded in 2003. By contrast, 27 percent of independents and 15 percent of Democrats shared that view.

Jim Lobe, chief of the Inter Press Service's Washington bureau, reported the finding in his blog on Wednesday.

The Bush administration's insistence that the Iraqi government had weapons of mass destruction and might give them to terrorists was a key selling point in its campaign to take the country to war. It turned out to be untrue.

Debate continues over whether former President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, and other top officials knew there were no WMD, but intentionally deceived the American people and Congress because they were intent on attacking Iraq for less palatable reasons -- or whether they managed to convince themselves that it was true using cherry-picked intelligence.

There is no reality-based argument that Iraq actually had WMD, after extensive searches found none, but this is hardly the first time many Americans have been certain of something that simply wasn't true.



A Washington Post poll in September 2003 found that nearly 70 percent of all Americans were convinced that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks -- even though he was not.

Bush, Cheney and others consistently linked al Qaeda to Hussein in speeches they gave in the run-up to war, and the media rarely pushed back. But neither Bush nor Cheney continued to claim that there were actual WMDs in Iraq once the searches came up empty -- although they both continued to insist that Saddam had the "capability" to produce them.

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>Rather than a failure of the media, therefore, this latest poll result seems to indicate a refusal -- unique to the modern Republican Party -- to acknowledge facts.</span>

According to this poll, an even larger proportion of Republican respondents who said Iraq had WMD -- 64 percent -- said they have either always believed (or have come to believe) that Barack Obama was born in another country, which he was not.

Overall, the poll found Republicans to be considerably more militaristic in their worldview than Democrats and independents.

In a finding that would indicate plenty of GOP support for yet another war in the Middle East, nearly two-thirds of Republicans said it's very likely that if Iran produces a nuclear weapon, it would use it against Israel."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21..._n_1616012.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/iraq-wmd-poll-clueless-vast-majority-republicans_n_1616012.html)

I suppose Fromkin wrote this before he read the recent release of classfied documents which prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, all lied, intentionally, and definitely knew there were no WMD's in Iraq, no actionable intelligence to suggest that Saddam was any threat, nor that he had any links to al Qaeda, or 9/11, but instead, Cherry Picked, a famous past time for Repigs.

Time to take those spoons out of your mouths, righties!

Oh, and you might want to remove those pacifiers, first, you know, your Binkies?

BWA HA HA HA!