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Soflasnapper
07-01-2012, 02:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this interview extends the contradiction which came to light in Eban’s report.

Newell said the ATF agents in Phoenix wanted to arrest the “straw” gun buyers at issue in the Fast and Furious flap. They couldn’t do so, Newell alleged, because nit-picking U. S. attorneys wouldn’t give them permission to make arrests.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Newell flatly denied the basic premise behind the long-standing Furious narrative. He also contradicted the testimony Eric Holder gave to the House last November. “Instances of so-called gun-walking are simply unacceptable,” Holder said in his testimony. “Regrettably, this tactic was used as part of Fast and Furious.”</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Holder said gun-walking did occur. The notion is “insane,” Newell said. Eban’s detailed report in Fortune brought this contradiction to light.</span> (To read her report, click here.)

Before we get to today’s Big Question, let’s imagine a reason for the contradiction between Holder and Newell. We have no idea if it’s true.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>When she appeared on CNN Thursday night, Evan speculated that Holder might be scapegoating ATF agents in Phoenix to protect “the political appointees.” She wasn’t asked, and didn’t say, who those “appointees” are.</span>

Question: Could Holder be trying to protect some U.S. attorneys he himself may have appointed? The ATF agents say the U.S. attorneys wouldn’t let them make arrests. If that’s true, were some of those folk Holder men?

We have no idea. But there is a glaring contradiction at the heart of the puzzling tale.

Eban’s report turned a long-standing story-line right smack dab on its head. Newell has furthered this new account with his NBC interview. If Newell’s statements are accurate, Holder’s statement to the House was not.

That brings us to today’s Big Question:

Will Eban’s detailed report disappear? Or will your favorite liberal heroes push to ferret the truth?

Over the past twenty years, your favorite fiery liberal heroes have often let the truth walk. Dearest Darlings, careers are at stake! In come cases, Obama’s line must be served!

Surely, it’s nice to pursue the truth. But it can’t always be done! </div></div>

This is little noted. Cenk Uygar asked this question at high volume last week. Why did Holder say something had happened, when this new reporting said it did not (except for 4 guns actually let go by the alleged whistleblower, per Eban's reporting).

So, as Obama supporters laud the Eban report and find it persuasive, they ignore or don't see the contradictions it raises against Holder's own sworn testimony.

From Bob Somerby's liberal take down from a liberal perspective website, The Daily Howler. (http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/)

Qtec
07-02-2012, 01:02 AM
Its obvious that Holder was set up.

Issa has been investigating this non-existent distraction while ignoring the main problem, the banks and Wall St.
This is all for show.


The fact that Holder didn't know that the F&F op was fictional, shows he cannot be held in contempt.

Why doesn't Issa investigate this?

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The Scam Wall Street Learned From the Mafia
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>How America's biggest banks took part in a nationwide bid-rigging conspiracy - until they were caught on tape</span>

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...0#ixzz1zRjI2nHU (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-scam-wall-street-learned-from-the-mafia-20120620#ixzz1zRjI2nHU)
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cushioncrawler
07-02-2012, 04:36 AM
This iz all krapp. Things in the starspangled krappitalyst usofa are much much worse than that.
Even that there story iz a part of the spin. Things in the starspangled krappitalyst usofa are much much worse than that.
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LWW
07-02-2012, 05:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did Holder say something had happened, when this new reporting said it did not (except for 4 guns actually let go by the alleged whistleblower, per Eban's reporting).

So, as Obama supporters laud the Eban report and find it persuasive, they ignore or don't see the contradictions it raises against Holder's own sworn testimony</div></div>

1 - The Obamedia is simply hard wired to ignore anything that is detrimental to the regime, and to obediently believe anything which exonerates the regime.

2 - The O-cult is similarly hard wired.

3 - Proof of this lies in the wire taps regarding F & F which were asked by high ranking members of Holder's office ... and it's incredibly naive to believe they happened without his knowledge, to the point of being prima facile evidence of incompetence if it did ... early on in the program.