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Sev
07-09-2012, 05:04 PM
We'll see how much a right healthcare is if they do all leave their practices.
Nothing like showing your discontent by leaving your chosen profession.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/re...ver-obamacare/

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<span style='font-size: 23pt'>Report: 83 percent of doctors have considered quitting over Obamacare</span>

Eighty-three percent of American physicians have considered leaving their practices over President Barack Obama’s health care reform law, according to a survey released by the Doctor Patient Medical Association.

The DPMA, a non-partisan association of doctors and patients, surveyed a random selection of 699 doctors nationwide. The survey found that the majority have thought about bailing out of their careers over the legislation, which was upheld last month by the Supreme Court.

Even if doctors do not quit their jobs over the ruling, America will face a shortage of at least 90,000 doctors by 2020. The new health care law increases demand for physicians by expanding insurance coverage. This change will exacerbate the current shortage as more Americans live past 65.

By 2025 the shortage will balloon to over 130,000, Len Marquez, the director of government relations at the American Association of Medical Colleges, told The Daily Caller.

“One of our primary concerns is that you’ve got an aging physician workforce and you have these new beneficiaries — these newly insured people — coming through the system,” he said. “There will be strains and there will be physician shortages.”

The DPMA found that many doctors do not believe the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will lead to better access to medical care for the majority of Americans, co-founder of the DPMA Kathryn Serkes told TheDC.

<span style="color: #CC0000"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>“Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not — that a piece of paper that says you are ‘covered’ by insurance or ‘enrolled’ in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors can’t afford to see patients at the lowball payments, and patients have to jump through government and insurance company bureaucratic hoops,” she said.</span></span> (SEE ALSO: Jeremiah Wright: ‘White racist alien DNA’ running through synapses of Obama’s brain )

The American Medical Association, which endorsed Obama’s health care overhaul, was not able to immediately offer comment on the survey. Spokesperson Heather Lasher Todd said it would take time to review the information in the survey.

Janelle Davis of the American Academy of Family Physicians said the AAFP could not provide thoughtful commentary without studying the survey’s findings and methodology.
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Keep your head down and admire the shot.

Soflasnapper
07-09-2012, 05:23 PM
They already tried to float this one last year. That effort was ridiculously and howingly flawed, to the point that I guess they tried again.

Maybe this one is slightly better, but it has little or no evidentiary value at the end of the day.

SELF-SELECTED response polls MEAN NOTHING, necessarily. Check it out. It's true.

OF COURSE, the embittered ones answer, and the non-embittered ones don't, or are far less motivated to answer. This is a well known problem with volunteered answerers. Same problem exists with on-line polls, which are also meaningless as polls (meaning, any assurance the poll results can be relied upon as a guide to the population as a whole).

This can be partially verified by following over the linked 'survey,' and looking for its margin of error number. NO SUCH MOE MENTIONED, because none would be available for this kind of survey.

All that can be said, really, is that: Of the approx. **4%** who volunteered answers to this FAXED survey, 83% of THEM were 'considering' quitting.

Actually, any citation from the DailyCaller ought to be considered highly dubious, a priori.

Here's a paragraph from their linked piece:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The DPMA found that many doctors do not believe the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will lead to better access to medical care for the majority of Americans, co-founder of the DPMA Kathryn Serkes told TheDC.

“Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not — that a piece of paper that says you are ‘covered’ by insurance or ‘enrolled’ in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors can’t afford to see patients at the lowball payments, and patients have to jump through government and insurance company bureaucratic hoops,” she said. <span style="color: #FF0000">(SEE ALSO: Jeremiah Wright: ‘White racist alien DNA’ running through synapses of Obama’s brain )</span> [Note: the sentence in red here was in red there, to be sure you saw it in the middle of the article.]

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/report.../#ixzz20AdJ2Dly (http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/report-83-percent-of-doctors-have-considered-quitting-over-obamacare/#ixzz20AdJ2Dly)
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Sev
07-09-2012, 06:45 PM
Time will tell.
The reward out and increase the red tape and people will leave.
Remember our physicians are mostly Baby Boomers. Their is limited in any case.

cushioncrawler
07-09-2012, 06:47 PM
Shit doctors in england in 1948 sayd the same things az shit doctors in thegoodolstarspangledusofa in 2012.

No pope ever beleeved in God.
10% of cardinals beleev in God.
20% of bishops beleev in God.
30% of preests beleev in God.
40% of nuns beleev in God.
50% of kathlix beleev in God.
60% of doctors beleev in God.

What a heap of shitheads.
mac.

Gayle in MD
07-10-2012, 09:20 AM
Another absurd claim from the right?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Comically Awful Survey Says 83 Percent Of Doctors Might Quit Over Obamacare
Blog ››› 39 minutes ago ››› SIMON MALOY


Did you know that American doctors are so incensed over Obamacare's big-government communist socialism that more than eight in ten are going to quit doctoring? It's true, according to a terribly conducted survey conducted by a shady right-wing group, reported credulously by the Daily Caller, and hyped by Matt Drudge and Fox News.

"Eighty-three percent of American physicians have considered leaving their practices over President Barack Obama's health care reform law, according to a survey released by the Doctor Patient Medical Association," reported the Daily Caller yesterday. What is the Doctor Patient Medical Association? The Daily Caller didn't seem too interested (beyond calling them "a non-partisan association of doctors and patients") so we'll have to fill in a few gaps.

The Doctor Patient Medical Association's founder, Kathryn Serkes, is a long-time veteran of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a collection of crackpot malcontents that opposes mandatory vaccinations, wrongly believes undocumented immigrants spread leprosy, and dabbled in Vince Foster conspiracy theorism. The group itself is solidly conservative in its politics: it boasts membership in the National Tea Party Federation; describes the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as "Destruction Of Our Medicine," or DOOM; and published a sheet of talking points about the health law to help grassroots activists "beat back the White House spin machine!"

But what about this improbable survey indicating that more than 3/4 of doctors have considered hanging up the stethoscope rather than tolerate Obamacare? Well, the first thing to point out is that the survey didn't actually ask about the Affordable Care Act. Here's the question and the results as given by DPMA:

How do current changes in the medical system affect your desire to practice medicine?

I'm re-energized - 4.6%

Makes me think about quitting - 82.6%

Unsure/no opinion - 12.8%

So they're just assuming that every respondent, upon reading "current changes in the medical system," thought "Obamacare" and nothing else? Doesn't seem too likely. And when asked to give their opinion on these undefined "changes," they were given three options: super-excited, ready to quit, and "unsure." What if they were just slightly dissatisfied? Or cautiously optimistic? The survey left no room for anyone who didn't hold an extreme position.

All this leads up to 83 percent of respondents saying they are ready to quit their chosen profession even though they don't know what they're quitting over. That's a fairly good clue that we're not dealing with the most reliable sample.

And how did we arrive at this unreliable sample? Let's take a look at the methodology [emphasis added]:

The survey was conducted by fax and online from April 18 to May 22, 2012. DPMAF obtained the office fax numbers of 36,000 doctors in active clinical practice, and 16,227 faxes were successfully delivered. Doctors were asked to return their completed surveys by fax, or online at a web address included in the faxed copy. Browser rules prevented doctors from filing duplicate surveys, and respondents were asked to provide personal identification for verification. The response rate was 4.3% for a total of 699 completed surveys.

They had a tiny sample size culled from a scattershot blast-fax that allowed respondents more than a month to answer their questions. And it seems pretty clear that of the vanishingly small percentage that did actually respond, the vast majority were ideologically sympathetic to the DPMA and had axes in need of grinding. If you look at the survey demographics they provided, you'll see that a full 25 percent of respondents were from the South, which is generally more conservative than the rest of the country.

The survey question is entirely worthless as a barometer of professional medical opinion regarding the Affordable Care Act. Which is likely the reason no one paid it any mind when DPMA released it last month. But then the dim bulbs at the Breitbart empire picked it up, followed by the Daily Caller and Drudge, leading to its inevitable appearance on Fox News this morning. It's a uniquely awful survey, but it served up a shocking, headline-friendly number, which is why it's driving the right-wing media's coverage of health care policy.



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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/10/comically-awful-survey-says-83-percent-of-docto/187029