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llotter
07-10-2012, 04:18 PM
Brad Pitt's mom writes a letter to the editor of the local paper critical of The Moron and promptly gets threats of violence and death. In this respect, the Left and radical Islam have a lot in common.

Sev
07-10-2012, 04:48 PM
I almost posted that article.
I figured I would wait a few days to see if some lefty succeeds in killing her.

Soflasnapper
07-10-2012, 05:22 PM
In this respect, sadly, all peoples, right and left, share much in common.

Except that I've never heard of any right side of the aisle folks preaching non-violence or pacifism.

That would be entirely on the left, wouldn't you say? Or did I miss somebody on the right stating this position?

Sev
07-10-2012, 05:24 PM
However the left does and then engages in assassination of presidents and other violence.

A bit ironic dont you think?

llotter
07-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Even their 'peace movement' was violent.

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 02:13 AM
(Courtesy of DailyKos)

Tim McVeigh--right winger: Oklahoma City bomber

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Eric Rudolph--right winger: Perpetrator of Centennial Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta which occurred on July 27, 1996, during the 1996 Summer Olympics. The blast killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Melih Uzunyol, a Turkish cameraman who ran to the scene following the blast, died of a heart attack.

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Michael Frederick Griffin--right winger: Murdered Dr. David Gunn in Pensacola, Florida in the United States. This was the first documented assassination of an OB-GYN to prevent abortions.

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Paul Hill--right winger: As Dr. John Bayard Britton arrived at the abortion clinic on July 29, 1994, Hill approached and fired on him with a twelve-gauge shotgun, hitting him in the head. Paul Hill later stated that he aimed for Britton's head because he suspected the doctor was wearing a bulletproof vest. Hill also killed Britton's bodyguard, retired Air Force lieutenant James Barrett, 74, and wounded Barrett's wife June, a retired nurse, 68.

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John C. Salvi III--right winger: Anti-abortion terrorist and a convicted murderer. He carried out two fatal terrorist attacks on two abortion clinics in Brookline, Massachusetts, on December 30, 1994.

Brisenia Flores--victim of right wing anti immigrant hatred:

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Brisenia Flores, aged 9, was gunned down at point-blank range in her own home in Flores, Arizona, as her terrified mother Gina Gonzalez, who had also been hit, played dead on the floor.

She sobbed as the court was told how she had heard Brisenia's desperate pleas as her killer stood over her.

'I can hear it happening,' Mrs Flores told the court describing how her daughter said: 'Why did you shoot my dad? Why did you shoot my mum?'

'I can hear her telling him to "please don't shoot me."'
The prosecution alleges that the child and her father Raul Flores Jr were murdered in May 30, 2009 by a group of vigilantes set up to tackle Mexican immigrants.

The shootings took place 200 miles from Tucson, the scene of the gun massacre earlier this month in which another nine-year-old girl died.

James Charles Kopp--right winger: Convicted in 2003 for the 1998 sniper-style murder of Dr. Barnett Slepian, an American physician from Amherst, New York who performed abortions. Prior to his capture, Kopp was on the FBI's list of Ten Most Wanted Fugitives. On June 7, 1999 he had become the 455th fugitive placed on the list by the FBI. He was affiliated with militant anti-abortion group "The Lambs of Christ".

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Bruce Turnidge and his son Joshua Turnidge--right wingers: Bruce was so fervent about protecting his right to have guns that he once sought to build and supply his own private militia, prosecutors said. His son, Joshua Turnidge, disdained police officers, calling them thieves and believing them all to be corrupt.

The two talked of bank robbery plots over the years no less than 50 times, a friend told prosecutors. The father had tried years before to raise money to arm a militia, but the men he approached turned him down, prosecutors said.

But it was Barack Obama's presidential win in November 2008 that finally drove the father and son to put one of their ideas into motion, Marion County Deputy District Attorney Katie Suver said Wednesday. They feared Obama's election would mean more gun restrictions, she said.

An employee at the Turnidges' biodiesel business recalled that Joshua Turnidge was "practically frantic" after the election about getting cash to reclaim his pawned guns as soon as he could, Suver said.

Then on Dec. 12, 2008, she said, the Turnidges planted a bomb outside the West Coast Bank in Woodburn. It ended up exploding inside the bank, killing two police officers, critically injuring a third and wounding a bank employee.

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Scott Roeder--right winger: George Richard Tiller, MD was shot through the eye and killed, by anti-abortion activist Scott Roeder, as Tiller served as an usher during the Sunday morning service at his church in Wichita. Jurors deliberated 40 minutes before convicting Roeder of murder on January 29, 2010.

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Robert Jay Mathews--right winger: Founder of "The Order". The Order was founded in late September 1983 at Mathews' farm near Metaline Falls, Washington. Matthews was baptized by the Mormon faith as a high schooler. He formed the "Sons of Liberty", an anti-communist militia mostly made up of Mormon survivalists. A fundamental goal of The Order was revolution against the American government, which its members, and those of other white supremacist groups, believed to be controlled by a cabal of prominent Jews. The Order was named after, and partly modeled on, a fictional group in William Luther Pierce's novel The Turner Diaries. The Order's goals included the establishment of a homeland (now the Northwest Territorial Imperative) from which Jews and non-whites would be barred. They often referred to the United States federal government as ZOG, an acronym for Zionist Occupied Government.

To fund their goals, the Order committed a series of violent crimes. First the robbery of a sex shop, which netted them less than USD $400. Afterwards, the Order's attacks were more effective, committing several lucrative bank robberies, as well as bombing a theater and a synagogue. The Order ran a large counterfeiting operation, and executed a series of armored car robberies, including one near Ukiah, California that netted $3.8 million.

The Order drew up a hit list of enemies, and on June 18, 1984 radio talk show host Alan Berg was murdered in front of his home by Bruce Pierce, assisted by other members of The Order. Berg was number two on The Order's list. Berg's murder and the subsequent trial formed the basis of Steven Dietz's 1988 play God's Country, and also loosely inspired Eric Bogosian's play Talk Radio (later adapted into a film by Oliver Stone) and the film Betrayed. A fictional version of the story was also the subject of the movie Brotherhood of Murder.

In December 1984, authorities were able to track Mathews down to a house on Whidbey Island where he refused to surrender. During a shootout, the house was ignited by incendiary flares, became engulfed in flames and Mathews was killed. Mathews is held in high esteem by some within the white nationalist subculture.

Richard Poplawski--right winger: Opened fire on two Pittsburgh Police officers responding to a 911 call from Poplawski's mother, who was attempting to get the police officers to remove her son from the home. Three police officers were ultimately confirmed dead, and another two were seriously injured.

Edward Perkovic, a friend of Poplawski, said the gunman feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon". Perkovic also stated that Poplawski "didn't like the Zionists controlling the media and controlling, you know, our freedom of speech" and that "He didn't like the control of the guns that was about to happen. He believed everything our forefathers put before us and thought that it was being distorted." Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said that Poplawski feared President Obama was going to take away his rights.

Poplawski posted that he believed that "the federal government, mainstream media, and banking system in these United States are strongly under the influence of -- if not completely controlled by -- Zionist interest. An economic collapse of the financial system is inevitable, bringing with it some degree of civil unrest if not outright balkanization of the continental US, civil/revolutionary/racial war . . . This collapse is likely engineered by the elite Jewish powers that be in order to make for a power and asset grab."

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Jim David Adkisson--right winger: On July 27, 2008, a politically motivated fatal shooting took place at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, United States. Motivated by a desire to kill liberals and Democrats, gunman Jim David Adkisson fired a shotgun at members of the congregation during a youth performance of a musical, killing two people and wounding seven others.

Adkisson, a former private in the United States Army from 1974 to 1977, says that he was motivated by hatred of Democrats, liberals, African Americans and homosexuals. According to a sworn affidavit by one of the officers who interviewed Adkisson on July 27, 2008:

"During the interview Adkisson stated that he had targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of major media outlets. Adkisson made statements that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them into office. Adkisson stated that he had held these beliefs for about the last ten years. ”

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DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 02:24 AM
Right wing violence: The Outsiders-- YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ0wG8Z7_uM&feature=player_embedded)

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 02:26 AM
Lone Wolves: A Recent History of Violent Right-Wing Extremism
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/03/11/lone-wolves-a-recent-history-of-violent-right-w/182135

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 02:29 AM
More right-wing violence: Notorious Montana militiaman takes shots at cops, disappears into woods: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/more-right-wing-violence-notorious-m

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 02:33 AM
OK, I have PLENTY more.

Now I'd like to hear you lily livered right wing pukes defend these murderous right wing sh*t heads!

LWW
07-11-2012, 04:43 AM
There you go using words you don't understand ... again.

McVeigh own words as to what motivated him are virtual clones of the words used by yourself and moonbat crazy leftists across the land. The only reason the far left disowns him is that he tossed his ramblings at Clinton. Had he committed the same acts under Bush, the left would have canonized him.

Deny reality all you like, McVeigh was a moonbat crazy leftist through and through.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>"The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons (“weapons of mass destruction”) — mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that’s the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims this was done for deterrent purposes during its “Cold War” with the Soviet Union. Why, then, it is invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) with respect to Iraq’s (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We’ve all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen those pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other “regional conflicts” that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of “weapons of mass destruction.”

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones — Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants — mostly women and children — in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks or months to die).

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of “mass destruction” — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?

The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction."</span>

-Timothy McVeigh-</div></div>

LWW
07-11-2012, 04:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK, I have PLENTY more.

Now I'd like to hear you lily livered right wing pukes defend these murderous right wing sh*t heads! </div></div>

Actually all you have listed is a bunch of left wing terrorists who want a different type of intolerant statism from our current intolerant statism.

LWW
07-11-2012, 05:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More right-wing violence: Notorious Montana militiaman takes shots at cops, disappears into woods: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/more-right-wing-violence-notorious-m </div></div>

From your spoon fed "TRUTH" ...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Militiamen are really a bunch of bad pennies who just keep popping back up:

LOLO - A former militia leader who went on the run Sunday after allegedly shooting at Missoula County sheriff's deputies seems well-equipped for a long sojourn in the woods, given the caches of weapons, food and gear already discovered, Undersheriff Mike Dominick said Monday.</div></div>

What they neglected to put on the spoon for you:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CORRECTION: It has been brought to our attention that Flathead County Undersheriff Jordan White has retracted his statement about Dave Burgert associating with members of the Flathead Liberty Bell.</div></div>
I NEVER CEASE TO BE AMAZED AT HOW EASILY YOU ARE PIMPED! (http://www.mhrn.org/publications/fact%20sheets%20and%20adivsories/BriefingPreparednessExpo.pdf)

I bet you keep trying to beat the chicken at tic tac toe at the county fair.

Gayle in MD
07-11-2012, 05:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Brad Pitt's mom writes a letter to the editor of the local paper critical of The Moron and promptly gets threats of violence and death. In this respect, the Left and radical Islam have a lot in common. </div></div>

Of all the people on this forum to create this thread?

One would think that your stated praise of Domestic terrorism, and for a murderer, on this forum for years, as part of your own signature, would have crossed your mind before posting this BS.

Nothing resembles radical Islam as much as the Repiglican War on Women's rights and Gay rights, obstruction of constitutional ethnic and racial voting rights, currently on display in this country, which this sicko woman, full of hate, exemplifies.

For years, from the RW radical Gun worshippers, white supremicist, religious nutjobs, extremeist militias, we have been hearing and watching a whole range of violent threats, for decades!

Threats including insane statements from actual contenders for Republican seats in Congress, many of whom cannot put a sentence together without charges of socialism, communism, and worse, and actually threatening during their campaigns to seek a Second Amendment Solution to deal with democrats, who are voted into office.

You righties can deny the radical turn your Party has taken, until your radical religious based nutjob excited anticipation for Dooms Day arrives, but it won't be from your guns and beloved assault weapons, it will be because you supported a party which threw the earth into global ennvironmental shock, and at risk of dying, all because you have been sucking up to and denying idiocy and results of subsidizing the very energy crooks, who have been financially supported and protected from oversight, by Repiglicans, and allowed, without propper regulatory oversight to continue to cause birth defects, illnesses, and all manner of pollution, without conscience, as they continue to destroy this planet.

Our air, water, animals, already in seriously contaminated environmental stress, as mountain tops are chopped off, and coal contamination floats into the valleys, kills or sickens untold numbers, and pristine water put at risk from a range of oil and gas contamination, unregulated, as people all over this world are denied the right to live in a healthy environment.

The real domestic terrorists are the entire Repiglican Pary, which whines incessantly over what they call job killing regulations, but which are truly humann and animal killing pollution practices, not to mention the long, long lists of proven RW terrorists who have identified themselves as radical RW domestic terrorists as they have been committing their vicious acts of murder, for decades, while you were here praising them for it.



Unbelievable!

Sev
07-11-2012, 06:31 AM
Janet Reno.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Janet_Reno-us-Portrait.jpg/220px-Janet_Reno-us-Portrait.jpg

Waco.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Mountcarmelfire04-19-93-l.jpg/800px-Mountcarmelfire04-19-93-l.jpg

Sev
07-11-2012, 06:34 AM
<span style="color: #000000"><span style='font-size: 23pt'>Jon Voight defends Brad Pitt’s mom after she gets death threats for penning anti-Obama letter to the editor</span></span>
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...intcmp=features (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/10/brad-pitts-mom-gets-death-threats-after-penning-anti-obama-letter-to-editor/?intcmp=features)

Gayle in MD
07-11-2012, 06:39 AM
John Voight? On Fux Noise yet? LMAO!

Sev
07-11-2012, 06:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">John Voight? On Fux Noise yet? LMAO!

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I guess you think the woman should be killed for her opinion then as well as anybody that stands up for her?

Gayle in MD
07-11-2012, 07:06 AM
Why would you even say that? Do you ever stop and think about what I have stood for throughout the years I have posted here?

How many times do I have to write it.

I am against war, against violence, against racism, against misogyny, against religious based, or ignorance based homophobic attacks and denail of rights, and against the intrusion of organized religion into our political and electoral conversation.

If a church wants to join the discussion, let them pay the taxes they crookedly avoid, while living like kings, and abusing our children.

I can assure you, neither Brad, nor Angelina, approve of this woman's tirade. She has shown herself to be full of hate and ignorance.

As for death threats, that's a risk people take when they decide to demonzie large groups of people while parading themselves in the public eye.

Not fair, not right, but she should have known what she would stir up with her outrageous ignorant, hateful statements.

She's not a child, after all.

G.

Soflasnapper
07-11-2012, 09:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">However the left does and then engages in assassination of presidents and other violence.

A bit ironic dont you think? </div></div>

I think you lack any examples of that.

Unless you're sticking with that lone nut theory (for the six or so deaths), it's fairly clear all of them were agents of far larger forces who were not left wing at all (as in, the bankers).

Sure, sure, they were 'anarchists' and 'leftists' and the like, allegedly. But somehow they only showed up to attack the enemies of the bankers? Repeatedly?

Assuming you meant Oswald, please stop now. A madeup leftist 'career' for the intel community, and an FBI informant, obviously.

Soflasnapper
07-11-2012, 09:22 AM
Former AG Reno is a 'leftist' in your imagination, perhaps.

Somehow that rings false for a career prosecutor. I guess you would mention she was a Democrat, but if you think that means she was a leftist, that's fairly stupid.

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 01:56 PM
LOL! Now you are not only a lying POS, you're a <u>desperate</u>, lying, POS. Next thing you know you'll be telling us that a liberal wrote "The Turner Diaries", that the KKK is a liberal organization, and of course your imbecilic lie about Hitler and the Nazis being liberal. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

No one, other than your nut huggers, believes a single word you say. You are nothing but a farce, a festering rotten pile of repugnant fascist flesh masquerading as a human being.

BTW, did you know that liberals promote breathing in oxygen? (With any luck this will make you stop breathing, just to show how ideologically pure you are,and society will benefit from one less backwards, demented, wanna be, prophet of right wing insanity, LOL!) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Now go take a shower, put on some presentable clothing, get in your clown car of crazyness and go get a job. I hear your local McDonald's has burger flipper positions open. Some work would do you good and free you from the shackles of welfare and food stamp dependency. Now, now..no need to thank me, I'm always willing to help the mentally challenged! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

LWW
07-11-2012, 02:51 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">John Voight? On Fux Noise yet? LMAO!

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I guess you think the woman should be killed for her opinion then as well as anybody that stands up for her?

</div></div>

I am shocked that you have any doubt.

LWW
07-11-2012, 02:53 PM
Who founded the KKK?

What party used the KKK as a paramilitary group to keep blacks in line?

Who is the only POTUS to appoint a Klansman to the SCOTUS?

Who is the only Klansman to be a US senator?

Is there anything that you actually do know?

Gayle in MD
07-11-2012, 03:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">John Voight? On Fux Noise yet? LMAO!

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I guess you think the woman should be killed for her opinion then as well as anybody that stands up for her?

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<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Gayle and LWW, we all now completely understand that you two don't like each other. No real need to keep belaboring the point.

My suggestion now is to ignore each other.

Any posts from either of you <span style='font-size: 26pt'>pointing at the other one </span>will result in an immediate (and very long) ban.

Admin




</span> </span>

I am shocked that you have any doubt. </div></div>

hondo
07-11-2012, 03:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Brad Pitt's mom writes a letter to the editor of the local paper critical of The Moron and promptly gets threats of violence and death. In this respect, the Left and radical Islam have a lot in common. </div></div>

Signed: Larry in VA..."James Kopp, A real Hero and martyr."

Irony, thy name is Larry lotter.

LWW
07-11-2012, 03:05 PM
Tell us again about your history in the penal system ...

hondo
07-11-2012, 03:05 PM
And don't forget lotter's "true American martyr"-James Kopp.

Sev
07-11-2012, 03:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you even say that? Do you ever stop and think about what I have stood for throughout the years I have posted here?

How many times do I have to write it.

I am against war, against violence, against racism, against misogyny, against religious based, or ignorance based homophobic attacks and denail of rights, and against the intrusion of organized religion into our political and electoral conversation.

If a church wants to join the discussion, let them pay the taxes they crookedly avoid, while living like kings, and abusing our children.

I can assure you, neither Brad, nor Angelina, approve of this woman's tirade. She has shown herself to be full of hate and ignorance.

As for death threats, that's a risk people take when they decide to demonzie large groups of people while parading themselves in the public eye.

Not fair, not right, but she should have known what she would stir up with her outrageous ignorant, hateful statements.

She's not a child, after all.

G. </div></div>

It would have been nice if you disavowed the threats prior to disavowing her and Voit.

Disagreeing with an private citizens opinion with a reaction of death threats is not a sign of individuals that think clearly or have been taught critical thinking.

LWW
07-11-2012, 03:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Janet Reno.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Janet_Reno-us-Portrait.jpg/220px-Janet_Reno-us-Portrait.jpg

Waco.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Mountcarmelfire04-19-93-l.jpg/800px-Mountcarmelfire04-19-93-l.jpg </div></div>

Yeah, but those were Americans who elievedin te first and second amendment who didn't pay ter taxes.

To the farleft those are all offenses worthy of a death penalty.

hondo
07-11-2012, 03:22 PM
What are the politics of the klan members on AZ? ( And here)
Certainly they are the most racist bunch on any of these forums.
Some of them like slide rule can barely contain their hate of all people black. I grant that you are much more subtle than slide rule, hiding behind your alledged " slave blood" but it's obvious where you stand also.
And look at the klans' heroes on these forums- McCarthy, James Kopp, limberger, Coulter, that simpleton who used to cry over any liberal victories and got run off the air( I've already forgotten his name). Haters, all.

As for your frequent attacks on Byrd, he was very conservative until he stood up for the Constitution against the excesses of the Patriot Act, thus incurring the wrath of the rabid right wingers.

hondo
07-11-2012, 03:36 PM
Dear larry, I was never in the penal system. I made a joke once about recognizing you in prison as the guy who always dropped the soap in the shower. Remember?
I joked about automatic writing forcing me to vote for Obama when I intended on voting for Hilary.
I joked about Obama looking like the image on the Shroud.
Most folks with a minimum of intelligence would recognize that I was joking.
I wasn't joking about the UFO siting. I stand by my story.

I never understood you until I saw your real picture on Facebook. You kinda resemble Lee Harvey Oswald. Little skinny , geeky white boy. Obviously the claims of being black were a lie.
Plus, NO MRS LWW, no family at all. No job. Your whole life is these forums. It's little wonder that you have no sense of humor and fail to recognize when I am joking.
Son, you need to get out and party a little bit. Start to live before you start to die. I really do worry about you.

Gayle in MD
07-11-2012, 03:55 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you even say that? Do you ever stop and think about what I have stood for throughout the years I have posted here?

How many times do I have to write it.

I am against war, against violence, against racism, against misogyny, against religious based, or ignorance based homophobic attacks and denail of rights, and against the intrusion of organized religion into our political and electoral conversation.

If a church wants to join the discussion, let them pay the taxes they crookedly avoid, while living like kings, and abusing our children.

I can assure you, neither Brad, nor Angelina, approve of this woman's tirade. She has shown herself to be full of hate and ignorance.

As for death threats, that's a risk people take when they decide to demonzie large groups of people while parading themselves in the public eye.

Not fair, not right, but she should have known what she would stir up with her outrageous ignorant, hateful statements.

She's not a child, after all.

G. </div></div>

It would have been nice if you disavowed the threats prior to disavowing her and Voit.

Disagreeing with an private citizens opinion with a reaction of death threats is not a sign of individuals that think clearly or have been taught critical thinking. </div></div>

Did I say the threateners were fair?

No, I didn't.

It isn't something that I would approve of, but it should have been expected by any rational, grown woman her age, and additionally, I don't approve of her statements, at all. They proves that she is either a radically twisted religious zealot, or she's so damned ignorant she doesn't know that people do not choose to be Gay!

So no, I think she's just another hateful, jusgemental Right Winger who is a victim of her own ignorance, and lack of empathy.

g.

Sev
07-11-2012, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the clarification Gayle.

You are of course perfectly entitled to your opinion.

Soflasnapper
07-11-2012, 04:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who founded the KKK?

What party used the KKK as a paramilitary group to keep blacks in line?

Who is the only POTUS to appoint a Klansman to the SCOTUS?

Who is the only Klansman to be a US senator?

Is there anything that you actually do know? </div></div>

You hearken back to a time when the 90-10 split among African-Americans' vote was to the GOP, not the Democratic Party.

Something changed from those times, and quite some time ago. Generations or more ago, in fact.

LWW
07-11-2012, 06:09 PM
So when do you want me to believe that the Klan Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops Robert Cornelius Calvin Sayles Byrd Junior sat in the US senate ... where the demkrooks referred to him as the conscience of the US senate?

hondo
07-11-2012, 08:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So when do you want me to believe that the Klan Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops Robert Cornelius Calvin Sayles Byrd Junior sat in the US senate ... where the demkrooks referred to him as the conscience of the US senate? </div></div>

Curious as to how many of your friends on AZ have held office in the Klan.
I was warned a few years back in a private message by a conservative Republican member of AZ that certain prominent
AZ members also were active in skinhead sites and that I should be careful who I argue with.
I didn't listen at the time but I keep up with what's being said on there still and there are some nasty, not -so-subtle racists on there.
Thus, I have no desire to get back on there.
Memikey is AZs Sofla and he takes you apart as easily as Sofla does on here. I just sit back and enjoy you squirming.

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 08:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

It would have been nice if you disavowed the threats prior to disavowing her and Voit.

Disagreeing with an private citizens opinion with a reaction of death threats is not a sign of individuals that think clearly or have been taught critical thinking. </div></div>

Neither is it exclusively the province of any one ideology. When right wingers hang Obama in effigy or downright call for his death, when liberals are threatened with violence simply because of their beliefs, conservatives look askance, and then dismiss the whole thing with a wink, a smile, and a whole lot of smoke. My advice to conservatives..practice what you preach, hypocrites!

DiabloViejo
07-11-2012, 09:02 PM
You are responding with a logically fallacious argument again, tsk tsk. I leave it to you to find out which fallacy, if you care to. No that it matters, for you are locked in your own version of Plato's Cave until the day you die.

Soflasnapper
07-12-2012, 10:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So when do you want me to believe that the Klan Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops Robert Cornelius Calvin Sayles Byrd Junior sat in the US senate ... where the demkrooks referred to him as the conscience of the US senate? </div></div>

As is clear from the record, his membership and affiliation with the Klan ended generations ago. Because his tenure there was unusually long, he was there until just recently, but those details of his past were over long ago in the past.

I guess you hold to the maxim of Faulkner, that the past isn't over, and it's not even past.

hondo
07-12-2012, 04:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So when do you want me to believe that the Klan Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops Robert Cornelius Calvin Sayles Byrd Junior sat in the US senate ... where the demkrooks referred to him as the conscience of the US senate? </div></div>

As is clear from the record, his membership and affiliation with the Klan ended generations ago. Because his tenure there was unusually long, he was there until just recently, but those details of his past were over long ago in the past.

I guess you hold to the maxim of Faulkner, that the past isn't over, and it's not even past. </div></div>

larry wilson only forgives Republicans. Dems are guilty til the day they die, actually long after that. He still hates FDR. Even a select group of Republicans. He still hates Lincoln for the Emancipation Proclamation.

LWW
07-13-2012, 02:50 AM
And, again, we see that the left will excuse anything ... even recruiting murderers and rapists ... so long as (D) follows their name on the ballot.

Soflasnapper
07-13-2012, 10:53 AM
So you say, and repeatedly, yes, you do say that.

But the facts are that he was a former Klan member, as in an ex-Klan member, leaving the org before he even ran for the House of Representatives c. 1952. He was never a KKK member as a Representative, still less as a US Senator. He got involved as a very young man, early 20s.

One might as well tar Reagan as a Democrat, although he left the party (or the party left him, there is a dispute) before he began his political career. As Reagan was never a Democrat in public life, so too was Byrd never a Klansman in public office.

I expect I'll see you claim he was a KKK Senator, again, anyway.

LWW
07-13-2012, 12:52 PM
And, again,you slavishly regurgitate the lies spoon fed to you.

You are aware that evidenc exists demonstrating the Klan likes to kleagle Byrd well after he laims to have keft the KKK?

Dou you even know what a Kleagle and/or Exalted Cyclops are?

That you accept the lie of Byrd being an innocent ute who was involved with thevwrong crowd is prima facie evidence of either ignorance, deceit, or being brainwashed. I'll let you claim which one you want to admit to.

And, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, a Kleagle is a commissioned recruiter ... yes, someone that was paid to recruit murderers.

An Exalted Cyclops is someone who s in charge of the KKK in an area enompassing one or more states.