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Qtec
07-12-2012, 03:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The GOP's response to the president's call for higher tax rates on upper-income Americans came fast and furious. The president's proposal, Republicans warned, was "class warfare" and a "job killer" which will "kill the current recovery and put us back in a recession" and still "not give you deficit reduction."

<span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style="color: #3333FF">As it turns out, the year was 1993, not 2012.</span></span>

At issue was Pres. Bill Clinton's $496 billion program to boost the recovery and trim long-term debt.<span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style='font-size: 26pt'> What Republicans then predicted would be a disaster preceded the longest economic expansion in modern American history, a period which produced 23 million new jobs and a balanced budget</span>. And as we saw once again in the intervening two decades, the U.S. economy grew faster and produced more jobs when tax rates for the wealthy were higher—even much higher—than today.</span></div></div>


OH BOY!!!!!!!

Q..... the truth....... (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/11/1108715/-GOP-recycles-debunked-talking-points-on-taxes-from-1993)


<a href="http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BudgetReconciliationLegislation159" target="_blank">Newt the A$$HOLE...kill the bill............run for the hills. Its the end of America as we know it!!!!!!

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This also shoots down the LWW pitch that the success of the Clinton admin was all down to the GOP majority! As it turns out, they voted against BC,s plans.

Q

LWW
07-12-2012, 06:18 AM
Thanks for proving my point ... it was by forcing some semblance of fiscal responsibility on the gubmint, largely unwinding the LBJ/Carter welfare state, which led to what the Clintonista dishonestly credit him ... he did veto it twice ... ith causing.

And, FWIW, it has been the Bush/Obama reimplementation of the welfare state that has sent us back to the precipice of disaster.

Do you actually realize how foolish you are proving yourself to be?

Gayle in MD
07-12-2012, 06:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The GOP's response to the president's call for higher tax rates on upper-income Americans came fast and furious. The president's proposal, Republicans warned, was "class warfare" and a "job killer" which will "kill the current recovery and put us back in a recession" and still "not give you deficit reduction."

<span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style="color: #3333FF">As it turns out, the year was 1993, not 2012.</span></span>

At issue was Pres. Bill Clinton's $496 billion program to boost the recovery and trim long-term debt.<span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style='font-size: 26pt'> What Republicans then predicted would be a disaster preceded the longest economic expansion in modern American history, a period which produced 23 million new jobs and a balanced budget</span>. And as we saw once again in the intervening two decades, the U.S. economy grew faster and produced more jobs when tax rates for the wealthy were higher—even much higher—than today.</span></div></div>


OH BOY!!!!!!!

Q..... the truth....... (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/11/1108715/-GOP-recycles-debunked-talking-points-on-taxes-from-1993)


<a href="http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BudgetReconciliationLegislation159" target="_blank">Newt the A$$HOLE...kill the bill............run for the hills. Its the end of America as we know it!!!!!!

</a>

This also shoots down the LWW pitch that the success of the Clinton admin was all down to the GOP majority! As it turns out, they voted against BC,s plans.

Q






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So hilarious the way the right thinks they can just make it up the way they want, and that makes it a fact. LMAO! They all do it!

Romney is proving every day that he would be Dubya on steroids! Same neocons advise him on foreign affairs.
He yaps the same foreign threats and war bravado as Dubya.

Same refusal to rise out of thhis recession and increase revenues by doing what every president did, including Reagan, all except for Bush the chimp, of course, RAISE TAXES ON THE WEALTHY!!! Forget fact that every economists of note, agrees that taxes for the top 2% should go up, including greenspan, AND the Bowles/Simpson recommendations, and also they say it is irresponsible not to do so!

Same damned outlandish lies about the numbers.

Same fear mongering.

Same damned denials about the total failure of Bush/Cheney, and spendoholic Blank Check Repiglicans who helped to create this mess, the multi disasters they left behind them are still being calculated!

Romney is a total joke, just like Bush/Cheney, same exact policies, and he wants to take us right back to those same failed Repiglican policies, policies that put us in this mess.

Bush's approval when he left? 22%, lowest ever recorded since Gallop began!

Cheney's approval? 12%!

Romney's policies? Bush/Cheney on steroids!

Bill Clinton was the best president since Kennedy! Nothing like Repiglicans, and he had to fight them all through his administration, while they did exactly what they always do, accuse others of exactly what they are themselves doing, including in private! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Total Nutjobs!

G.

Soflasnapper
07-12-2012, 09:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for proving my point ... it was by forcing some semblance of fiscal responsibility on the gubmint, largely unwinding the LBJ/Carter welfare state, which led to what the Clintonista dishonestly credit him ... he did veto it twice ... ith causing.

And, FWIW, it has been the Bush/Obama reimplementation of the welfare state that has sent us back to the precipice of disaster.

Do you actually realize how foolish you are proving yourself to be? </div></div>

Since Clinton only signed the welfare reform piece in his 4th year as a re-election gambit, to take place in the next year, none of the improvements in the economy, none of the employment gains, and none of the deficit reductions in those first term 4 years can be attributed to a then-unpassed welfare reform.

What did help in the first 4 years were the tax hikes on the top bracket, the phased-in doubling of the EITC subsidy (for the working poor), and the doubling of the expensible investment credit (for all businesses, especially small businesses), and the hard caps on DISCRETIONARY spending along with the pay-go policy. (Welfare spending was in the entitlement area at the time, not part of the discretionary spending budget, and so, untouched.) The overall frugal fiscal policy allowed an expansive monetary policy, and created a virtuous cycle in interest rate costs, as any crowding out effect from overly large borrowing for deficits was trimmed.

As of Carter's time, little if anything of the Great Society war on poverty discretionary spending programs existed any longer, probably only the CETA work training program, which was already defunded under Reagan prior to Clinton's gaining office.