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Qtec
08-06-2012, 08:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But the problem with all that is obvious, and here Ryan is guilty of that which he accuses his adversaries: intellectual laziness. Ayn Rand was a philosopher, a novelist. She never worried about public infrastructure, retirement security, budget deficits. Kemp’s trickle down ideas, still promoted today by the likes of Art Laffer and Larry Kudlow, not to mention Gov Romney, have never come anywhere close to working. <span style='font-size: 17pt'>They’ve led not to balanced budgets and broadly shared growth, but to larger deficits and greater income concentration.</span> </div></div>


<a href="http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/jared-bernstein-paul-ryans-budget-num" target="_blank">Jared Bernstein: Paul Ryan's Budget Numbers Don't Add Up
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Gayle in MD
08-07-2012, 03:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But the problem with all that is obvious, and here Ryan is guilty of that which he accuses his adversaries: intellectual laziness. Ayn Rand was a philosopher, a novelist. She never worried about public infrastructure, retirement security, budget deficits. Kemp’s trickle down ideas, still promoted today by the likes of Art Laffer and Larry Kudlow, not to mention Gov Romney, have never come anywhere close to working. <span style='font-size: 17pt'>They’ve led not to balanced budgets and broadly shared growth, but to larger deficits and greater income concentration.</span> </div></div>


<a href="http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/jared-bernstein-paul-ryans-budget-num" target="_blank">Jared Bernstein: Paul Ryan's Budget Numbers Don't Add Up
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And Mitsey thinks Ryan's plan is Marvelous!

Too bad none of the economists agree with that interpretation, unless they are members of the same 'Anglo-saxon' 'Trickle Down' elitist group, that is. And even some of them have begun to realize that destroying the base wealth of America's middle class consumers will also destroy their country, regardless of how many questionable tax loopholes they use to justify their own form of welfare, like millions hidden off shore, and multi million-dollar loopholes that led to twelve plus trillion American tax exempt dollars hidden off shore by wealthy elitists, the Romneys of the world.

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eg8r
08-07-2012, 05:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They’ve led not to balanced budgets and broadly shared growth, but to larger deficits and greater income concentration. </div></div>Sounds exactly like what Obama has done.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-07-2012, 07:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They’ve led not to balanced budgets and broadly shared growth, but to larger deficits and greater income concentration. </div></div>Sounds exactly like what Obama has done.

eg8r </div></div>


They are not the Obama tax policies, they are the Bush/Repiglican tax policies.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> They’ve led not to balanced budgets and broadly shared growth, but to larger deficits and greater income concentration.


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Even Greenspan said that taxes cuts for the wealthy should not continue. There is now a whole long list of conservative economists who are saying the same thing.

Repiglican Tricle down economics failed. Have always failed, and will always fail. You can't grasp that because you don't understand economics.

Proof:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you feel like a big boy now that you get to use those "grown up words"? It looks juvenile. Besides that, customers do not create, that is the reason why they are called consumers. I am well aware of the role each group plays in the economy but the fact is customers do not create anything other than demand and demand cannot be there if the product was not there in the first place, which it cannot be there unless someone with some money fronted a business and hired people to perform the job to create that good or service to be sold.

eg8r

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eg8r
08-07-2012, 09:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are not the Obama tax policies, they are the Bush/Repiglican tax policies.</div></div>He continued them so he has ownership now. The rest he did on his own, no balanced budget, larger deficit and greater income concentration. He is W's best clone.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-07-2012, 09:34 AM
A completely slanted view on your part, and full of misstatements.

H didn't continue them because it was his preferred policy, he did so to protect the Middle Class annd protect unemployment benefits, as he TRIED to compromise with Repiglicans.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The rest he did on his own, no balanced budget, larger deficit and greater income concentration. He is W's best clone.

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All because of Repiglican obstruction. Oh, and it's Mitsey who is Bush's clone, not president Obama.

President Obama is not pushing for more wars in the Middle East. That would be the Repiglicans.

President Obama isn't pushing to destroy Medicare and Social Security. That, too, would be the Repiglican policies, aka the Ryan plan, which Romney thinks is marvelous.

President Obama hasn't lied us into an un-necessary war, nor has he outed any secret agents.

President Obama was not in office when the economy crashed, that was George Bush, and they are called the Bush Tax Cuts, not the Obama Tax cuts, and they Bush Recession, not the Obama recession.



I find your views have been consistantly, irrationally slanted in favor of everyand any failed Repiglican policies, which Repiglicans manage to totally lie about, and then the total screw up emerges afterwards, AKA...FUBAR!


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eg8r
08-07-2012, 11:45 AM
Nothing slanted at all other than you now trying to slant reality. He signed the bills. It is what it is and he took ownership. He is the best W clone ever and he has continued to do his best to beat his mentor at the spending game.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-07-2012, 02:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nothing slanted at all other than you now trying to slant reality. He signed the bills. It is what it is and he took ownership. He is the best W clone ever and he has continued to do his best to beat his mentor at the spending game.

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No, he didn't take ownership, he had to compromise with the idiotic OBSTRUCTIONIST Repiglicans WHO HAVE CONSISTANTLY VOTED AGAINST THEIR OWN POLICIES, in order to prevent them from hurting the unemployed and the struggling Americans who lost everything during the GEORGE W.BUSH, FUBAR ADMINISTRATION OF WARRING, CUTTING TAXES, LYING THE COUNTRY INTO AN UN-NECESSARY WAR, SPENDING LIKE DRUKEN SAILORS, CRASHING THE ECONOMY, AND THAN LEAVING THE WHOLE MESS BEHIND HIM FOR THIE PRESIDENT TO INHERIT.

Everything I wrote is true.

Everything you write is not only slanted, intentionally argumentative and distorted, but truly pointless.

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eg8r
08-07-2012, 07:27 PM
LOL, everything have written is only true in your fantasy world. The fact of the matter is those bills have his name on them and that is all there is to it. He has done nothing to reduce the income gap and has increased the debt to astronomical levels.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-08-2012, 03:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, everything have written is only true in your fantasy world. The fact of the matter is those bills have his name on them and that is all there is to it. He has done nothing to reduce the income gap and has increased the debt to astronomical levels.

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Sell it somewhere else, Ed. You have no credibility with me. If I had my way, millions of defence contractors would be unemployed, and teachers would see their salaries trippled.

We live in different worlds. I wouldn't think of voting for a bunch of liars, who sent our soldiers to die in bumb**** Iraq, for their own defence war profiteering pigs, and their own oil profits, by giving away no bid contracts to their oil cronies!

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eg8r
08-08-2012, 10:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We live in different worlds.</div></div>You got that right...Mine is Earth and you are clearly somewhere else.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-08-2012, 10:43 AM
Yeah, right...only your earth is like not THE EARTH, obviously.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you feel like a big boy now that you get to use those "grown up words"? It looks juvenile. Besides that, customers do not create, that is the reason why they are called consumers. I am well aware of the role each group plays in the economy but the fact is customers do not create anything other than demand and demand cannot be there if the product was not there in the first place, which it cannot be there unless someone with some money fronted a business and hired people to perform the job to create that good or service to be sold.

eg8r


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