View Full Version : Sikh Temple Shooter Was a Liberal ..LOL

08-09-2012, 03:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Bryan Fischer: Sikh Temple Shooter Was a Liberal Because He Hated Herman Cain</span>

you can't make this stuff up! (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/bryan-fischer-sikh-temple-shooter-was-libera)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fundamentalist Christian radio host Bryan Fischer says that the white supremacist who massacred six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin must have been a liberal because he hated former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain and had a "a left-wing political philosophy."

On his Tuesday American Family Association radio show, Fisher said that Wade Michael Page could not be connected to the tea party because he had threatened to leave the country if Cain was elected president. But the conservative radio host failed to mention that Page's hate for African Americans may have trumped any desire to support the Republican candidate.

"The tea party [is] primarily made up of white people, of evangelicals, people of faith," Fischer explained. "We loved Herman Cain. He was a black guy. We loved him. We would have been happy to have him be our presidential candidate. This guy despised Herman Cain."

Fischer then made the claim that Page's identification as a neo-Nazi meant he also must have been a liberal.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"You know what the Nazi Party stands for? It's the National Socialist Party. What about the word 'socialist' do you not understand? They were the National Socialist Party - that is a left-wing political philosophy,"</span> he insisted.

Fischer continued: "And you think even here in the United States, who was the part of racism? It was the left, it was liberals who were the part of racism. It was Democrats that supported and defended the institution of slavery. It was Democrats that resisted the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments. It was Democrats that instituted Jim Crow laws. It was Democrats that created the Ku Klux Klan. It was Democrats that filibustered the Civil Rights Acts of the mid-1960s."

While Fischer often recounts the Democratic Party's opposition to rights for minorities, he always fails to mention that Democrats surpassed Republicans on civil rights when Democratic President Harry Truman became the first president since Abraham Lincoln to address civil rights issues in the 1940s.<u> After attempting to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Southern Democrats have largely joined the national party in support of civil rights issues. Many of those that didn't agree with the party's civil rights agenda, defected to the Republican Party.</u>

Earlier this week, televangelist Pat Robertson also attempted to disassociate Page with conservative Christians by suggesting that atheists were to blame for the shooting.

“What is it?” the TV preacher wondered. “Is it satanic? Is it some spiritual thing, people who are atheists, they hate God,<span style="color: #3333FF">LOL</span> they hate the expression of God? And they are angry with the world, angry with themselves, angry with society and they take it out on innocent people who are worshiping God.” </div></div>

Got it? The skinhead Neo-Nazi White Power guy, is a progressive tree hugger!


08-09-2012, 03:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chris Robillard described Page as his "closest friend" in the military. He told CNN that Page was "a very kind, very smart individual" but even then had taken up the white supremacist cudgel.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"He would often mention the racial holy war that was coming," he said. </span>"We just looked at it like he was trying to get attention to himself because he was always the vulnerable type of person. Even in a group of people he would be off alone."

Another former colleague in the psychological operations unit, Fred Allen Lucas, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>said that Page called him a "race traitor" for dating Latina women and took to calling other races "dirt people".

"It didn't matter if they were black, Indian, Native American, Latin – he hated them all," Lucas told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel </span></div></div>

08-09-2012, 05:02 AM
Even when you get it, you don't get it.

He was a leftist, not a liberal.

I am a liberal, you are a leftist.

Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Che, Robespierre, Saddam, Mugabe, Amin, Franco, Ceaucescu, Tito, Mussolini, Chavez, Minh are all creatures of the left.

When the citzen holds primacy over the state ... such monsters are common criminals, and usually inmates.

When the state holds primacy over te citizen, it becomes inevitable that the most ruthless monster inside the machine rise to the top ... and testatr cannot gain said primacy without the machine being populated by such common thugs.

And those thugs can't exist without stooges such as yourself to paint over the blood with lme excuses.

08-09-2012, 05:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>said that Page called him a "race traitor" for dating Latina women and took to calling other races "dirt people".

"It didn't matter if they were black, Indian, Native American, Latin – he hated them all," Lucas told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel </span></div></div> </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a nigger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."</span>

-Harry Truman-

Gayle in MD
08-09-2012, 05:42 AM
What a crock!

The Southern Poverty Law Center is our expert organization on these matters, and they have called these recurring mass murders, RW Domestic Terrorism. Additionally, the FBI agrees.

Like everything else, the right blames others for all of the disastrous results of their own un-Americanism and failed policies.

Just look at what the Repigs did about the Debt Limit! That cost this country millions of dollars, probably more like billions, yet they blame the president for our sluggish economy!

Guess they don't know the entire world is dealing with severe economic problems.


Gayle in MD
08-09-2012, 06:35 AM
check this article out!

The charts shown on RW violence blew my mind!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This past Monday, when FBI Special Agent Teresa Carlson briefed reporters on the shooting rampage at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin that left six people dead, she said law enforcement had no prior indication that the shooter, Wade Michael Page, had been dangerous. "As far as I know, no law enforcement agency had any reason to believe that he was planning or plotting or capable of such violence," she said.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which maintains an archive of published material from white supremacists and other hate groups, says that Page, who played in white supremacist rock bands and was involved with a skinhead group called the Hammerskins, began showing up in their database as early as 10 years ago. "There are hundreds of people involved in neo-Nazi groups and skinhead bands, maybe thousands, who say and write the kind of violent things that this guy did," notes Heidi Beirich, director of the SPLC's Intelligence Project. "The ability to figure out who is going to actually do [violence] is not easy. This stuff is protected [speech] and most people don't commit violence."

DHS used to monitor the domestic hate forums. Working under Secretary Janet Napolitano, Johnson headed a team of analysts devoted to ferreting out domestic terrorism. Several of their referrals, he says, led to criminal cases. But conservatives went ballistic over his team's 2009 report on the threat posed by right-wing extremists.

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Concern that monitoring of "extremists" could result in spying on Americans engaged in lawful political activity is legitimate,*since it's certainly happened before. But while Johnson's report was meant to focus on violent right-wing extremist groups—not your average Republican voter—conservative commentators still felt persecuted. The Obama administration, they claimed, was targeting mainstream conservatives and Tea Party activists.*Hot Air*blogger Ed Morrisey*wrote that the report*was an attempt to "smear half of the country or more as kooks for criticizing the government's handling of the economy."*Conservative pundit Michelle Malkin*called it "a sweeping indictment of conservatives."*

As detailed by*Spencer Ackerman in*Wired, the political backlash prompted Homeland Security to shut down Johnson's team and curtail its "passive monitoring" of right-wing extremists—e.g., surveillance of publicly available information such as white supremacist web forums. Nowadays, Johnson says, the department's Office of Intelligence and Analysis has just one analyst who focuses on domestic terrorism by non-Muslims. (DHS did not respond to my request for comment.)

"There's one analyst there despite all the attacks, the criticism, and all the issues that were raised when I went public last year," says Johnson, who*first spoke to the*Washington Post*about the shakeup last June. "Why hasn't Napolitano been responsible for reconstituting the domestic terrorism effort in her department?"

The remaining analyst, Johnson adds, has his writing scrutinized for "politically sensitive" content as the DHS seeks to preempt any further backlash.**

While Johnson acknowledged to*Wired*that the characterization of the threat in his report was "imprecise," he still feels that DHS overreacted. "They caved in, and not only did they cave in, but they got rid of the entire unit for dealing with these kinds of issues."

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In recent years, meanwhile, America has seen numerous instances of right-wing terrorism, from the lone gunman who attacked the Holocaust Museum to an attempt to plant an improvised explosive device at a Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane, Washington. An analysis by Peter Bergen of*CNN*counted eight terrorist*attacks*carried out by extremist right-wingers since 9/11, compared to four by al-Qaeda inspired or affiliated terrorists. The latter resulted in more deaths, however, largely because 13 people were killed in November 2009 when Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan opened fire on his Army comrades at Texas' Ft. Hood.

Mike German, a former FBI agent who did undercover work infiltrating extremist groups including neo-Nazis and militia groups and is now senior policy counsel for the ACLU, told me that more government surveillance isn't the solution, and that it's a mistake to think there's a technological silver bullet that can flawlessly identify threats before they can be carried out. Most people with extreme views, German says, hold horrible (but constitutionally protected) beliefs they never act on.

See our interactive guide to mass shootings in America.

"Whether you look at the Nidal Hasan case, or the [underwear bomber] case, it's not a lack of information," German says. "In fact, they're pulling in so much information that they can't distinguish between someone with a bad attitude and someone who is actually a threat…What they need to do is focus resources on people who are actual threats based on a factual basis that brings reasonable suspicion that someone is actually doing harm."

Johnson insists that more can be done, but that for political reasons neither Congress nor the administration are inclined to act. "Why hasn't Congress held any hearings, particularly the Homeland Security committee, on the radicalization of white supremacists? We've had numerous things happen in the past three years, and yet [GOP Rep.] Peter King is still preoccupied with the Muslim extremist threat," he says. "What is it going to take for Congress to have a hearing on white supremacist radicalization and developing a strategy for how to counter it?"

The answer to stopping future events like the Sikh temple shooting isn't to transfer the panic reserved for al Qaeda-linked plots to those involving domestic radicals. Yet in the latter cases, unlike the Ft. Hood shooting, there hasn't been much of a response from politicians other than expressions of grief and sorrow. When a white supremacist goes on a killing spree, it's just another tragic inevitable consequence of living in an imperfect world. When a Muslim does the same thing, we actually expect the government to do something about it.

Charts by Jaeah Lee

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/08/sikh-temple-killings-preventable-homeland-security </div></div>



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