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Gayle in MD
08-15-2012, 11:04 AM
<span style="color: #990000"> And what were they about? A post office name change, and lower taxes on arrows! LMAO! Wht a genius!

Bwa ha ha ha ha! So true, you can't make this stuff up! </span>


<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Paul Ryan Only Passed 2 Bills Into Law In More Than A Decade </span>

WASHINGTON -- He's been in Congress for nearly 13 years, but Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has only seen two of his bills pass into law during that time.

Ryan, who Mitt Romney has tapped as his running mate, passed a bill into law in July 2000 that renames a post office in his district. Thanks to Ryan, the post office on 1818 Milton Ave. in Janesville, Wis., is now known as "Les Aspin Post Office Building."

The other time Ryan saw one of his bills become law was in December 2008, with legislation to change the way arrows (as in bows and arrows) are hit with an excise tax. Specifically, his bill amended the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 39-cent tax per arrow shaft, instead of a 12.4 percent tax on the sales price. The bill also "includes points suitable for use with arrows in the 11 percent excise tax on arrow parts and accessories."

Kevin Seifert, Ryan's congressional spokesman, did not respond to a request for comment.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/paul-ryan-bills_n_1769816.html?ref=topbar





Bill Mahr's thoughts on Ryan match mine, as usual! LMAO /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
Can't wait for Friday. Bill's back!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/bill-maher-talks-paul-rya_n_1777486.html

eg8r
08-15-2012, 11:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And what were they about? A post office name change, and lower taxes on arrows! LMAO! Wht a genius!

Bwa ha ha ha ha! So true, you can't make this stuff up!


Paul Ryan Only Passed 2 Bills Into Law In More Than A Decade </div></div>How many bills did Obama pass during his short stay in the Senate?

eg8r

Soflasnapper
08-15-2012, 11:30 AM
Probably the same number, or 50% more (i.e., 3).

In a two year period in which he was already running for president for the latter part of that period.

About a 700% higher rate, annually.

eg8r
08-15-2012, 02:06 PM
So what you are saying is that he wasn't any more accomplished. Thanks.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-15-2012, 02:55 PM
No! That isn't what he was saying, at all. You twisted his words into your own unreality, as you always do.

That's all you know how to do. Twist what has been written, and insult others.

Pointless, and pathetic.

G.

eg8r
08-15-2012, 03:49 PM
I did not twist anything. You said Ryan passed two bills. I did not know Obama's record so I asked. Sofla said two bills maybe 3. Doesn't sound any more accomplished than Ryan at all. Sounds dead even.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
08-15-2012, 04:27 PM
Pretty hackish theory, if that's your real reaction.

If I say one ballplayer has hit 2 or 3 homers in 2 weeks, and another has hit 2 homers in 14 weeks, you would decide both players are about equal as home run hitters? (Read years for weeks, bills for home runs, to help you understand this analogy.)

Not to mention that the first guy, in 2 years, had absolutely no seniority, but that the second guy, in 14 years, rose up the seniority ladder to a committee chairmanship (where he'd have more authority and gravitas to get people to come along with him on this or that bill).

UPDATE: It was probably more like 5 laws (or more, depending upon how you want to score some that got included as amendments to other laws, and one that passed Congress but was vetoed by W, and one that passed the Senate but didn't pass the House).

His accomplishments included laws co-authored with Republican Sen. Lugar and Coburn, and Sen. Kitt Bond, etc., on immigration/border matters, nuclear non-proliferation matters, liquification of coal techniques, and etc.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">109th Congress

Obama took an active role in the Senate's drive for improved border security and immigration reform. In 2005, he cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act introduced by Sen. John McCain (R–AZ).[27] He later added three amendments to the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, which passed the Senate in May 2006, but failed to gain majority support in the U.S. House of Representatives.[28] In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act, authorizing construction of fencing and other security improvements along the United States–Mexico border.[29] President Bush signed the Secure Fence Act into law in October 2006, calling it "an important step toward immigration reform."[30]

Partnering first with Sen. Richard Lugar (R–IN), and then with Sen. Tom Coburn (R–OK), Obama successfully introduced two initiatives bearing his name. Lugar-Obama expands the Nunn-Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, including shoulder-fired missiles and anti-personnel mines.[32][33][34] The Lugar-Obama initiative subsequently received $48 million in funding.[35] The Coburn-Obama Transparency Act provides for the web site USAspending.gov, managed by the Office of Management and Budget. The site lists all organizations receiving Federal funds from 2007 onward and provides breakdowns by the agency allocating the funds, the dollar amount given, and the purpose of the grant or contract.[36] Obama and Coburn also collaborated on repeated efforts to end the abuse of no-bid contracting in the aftermath of natural disasters.[37] In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act, marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.[38]

110th Congress

In the first month of the newly Democratic-controlled 110th Congress, Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007.[43] He joined Chuck Schumer (D–NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.[44] Obama's energy initiatives scored pluses and minuses with environmentalists, who welcomed his sponsorship with John McCain (R–AZ) of a climate change bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two-thirds by 2050, but were skeptical of his support for a bill promoting liquefied coal production.[45] Obama also introduced the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007, a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.[46]
Drawer of chamber desk XXIV that was once occupied in the U.S. Senate by Barack Obama. Note signature inside lower right half of the drawer. This chamber desk was also formerly occupied in the U.S. Senate by Howard Baker, Paul Simon, Robert F. Kennedy, and Henry Cabot Lodge.[47]

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R–MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.[48] He sponsored the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry,[49] and joined Chuck Hagel (R–NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.[50] A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.[50] Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.[51] After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."[52]</div></div>

Qtec
08-16-2012, 03:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And what were they about? A post office name change, and lower taxes on arrows! LMAO! Wht a genius!

Bwa ha ha ha ha! So true, you can't make this stuff up!


Paul Ryan Only Passed 2 Bills Into Law In More Than A Decade </div></div>How many bills did Obama pass during his short stay in the Senate?

eg8r </div></div>

What has that got to do with Ryan being a do nothing congressman?

You do realise Ryan voted for both Bush tax cuts, the Wars in Afg and Iraq, etc etc and NEVER once complained about them not being paid for.
Now he is on TV complaing about the deficit, the same one he helped to make.

He is a fake, just like Willard.



Q

Gayle in MD
08-16-2012, 05:50 AM
The ultimate flip flopper! I never dreamed Mitsey could find a flip-flopper as proficient a flipper and liar as he is.

But then, it's a Repiglican thingie: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-word/48684320#48684359

They will all lie about where they stand, and then get back in there and do just the opposite of what they promise.

Preserve Medicare, LMAO! What a crock of total BS!

The great job oursourcer is going to provide jobs for the middle class, BWA HA HA HA! How stupid can people be!

Then when it fails, and they get voted out, and the Dems have to step back in to clean up their messes, Repiglicans will blame the Dems for every mess Repigs made during their own majority.

Same ol' same ol' for the last four decades!

I wish Obama had answered all of their "Where are the jobs" BS by saying, "You tell me, you're the ones who looked the other way for eight years while corrupt corporations outsourced them all! You're the ones who ran up the debts, pushed us into a war for oil, lost billions in Iraq, ran up trilliona in debts, money that could have been available right now for investing in jobs!

Repiglicans have done absolutely nothing rational for the last three plus years, nothing but obstruct the recovery, block jobs bills, block any annd all of the correct actions which governmennt must do to survive this sort of economic crash, while they spent all of their time attacking women's rights, and gay rights, pandering to their religious nutjobs.

Disgusting!

eg8r
08-16-2012, 08:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pretty hackish theory, if that's your real reaction.</div></div>LOL, big surprise response there. Your number one job to defend is always in full force.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I say one ballplayer has hit 2 or 3 homers in 2 weeks, and another has hit 2 homers in 14 weeks, you would decide both players are about equal as home run hitters?</div></div>As long as ballplayer 1 quit after the 2 weeks then yes they would be dead even. Common sense beneath you?

eg8r

eg8r
08-16-2012, 08:37 AM
Well, getting 2 bills passed doesn't mean he did nothing.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You do realise Ryan voted for both Bush tax cuts</div></div>You do realize Obama approved them also.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-16-2012, 08:50 AM
No, Obama did not approve Bush's tax cuts! He wasn't even in the Senate for the first one, so he didn't even vote for it.

The second one came about because Boehner didn't keep his word, and the stupid Repiglicans refused to continue unemployment, and tax cuts for those who really needed them, unless they could condinue more giveaways for the wealthy, who have been stealing from the pot for decades!

More lies.

G.

Soflasnapper
08-16-2012, 08:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pretty hackish theory, if that's your real reaction.</div></div>LOL, big surprise response there. Your number one job to defend is always in full force.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I say one ballplayer has hit 2 or 3 homers in 2 weeks, and another has hit 2 homers in 14 weeks, you would decide both players are about equal as home run hitters?</div></div>As long as ballplayer 1 quit after the 2 weeks then yes they would be dead even. Common sense beneath you?

eg8r </div></div>

If you played fantasy baseball, you'd want the guy that could deliver the same number of home runs in 1/7th the time. He would be much hotter as a home run guy. Unless he was on injured reserve and couldn't play further in the season, which I guess is your lame scenario (if the better home run hitter quit).

As it turned out, I badly understated Obama's legislative record, so the real comparison is far worse for Ryan. Not two or three for Obama, but 6. So, triple the bills in 1/7th the time. Again, which is the better record then? Equal, you say?

And Obama's bills were not eyewash like renaming a post office for Les Aspin, one of Ryan's great legislative accomplishments. Half of all his great legislative accomplishments. They dealt with serious national security matters (the fence), non-proliferation matters, and involved working across the aisle with Republican senators, in several instances: McCain, Lugar and the very conservative Tom Coburn.

Yet if I mention any of this, it cannot be because it is true, but only because **I** am a lying partisan for the cause, according to you?

eg8r
08-16-2012, 09:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, Obama did not approve Bush's tax cuts!</div></div>He signed his name so he bought into them.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-16-2012, 09:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, Obama did not approve Bush's tax cuts!</div></div>He signed his name so he bought into them.

eg8r </div></div>

How could he sign his name when he wasn't even in the Senate when the Bush Tax Cuts were voted on the first time!

The Repiglicans all signed the TARP, but you put all of their spending and borrowing and debts on Obama's ledger.

Bush put this country into trillions of debt for his and the Repiglican blank check congress' spending and borrowing. Six trillion for his big pharma giveaway, alone.

Trillions more for his unfinished wars, annd all of the medical costs for our veterans going forward for a war that wasn't even logical.

The charts we have provided here prove it.

You live by intentional lies and in complete denial.



G.

eg8r
08-16-2012, 09:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How could he sign his name when he wasn't even in the Senate when the Bush Tax Cuts were voted on the first time!</div></div>Let's see if we can dumb this down for you...I am referring to Obama being the ultimate approver while signing it into law (continuance) as President.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-16-2012, 09:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How could he sign his name when he wasn't even in the Senate when the Bush Tax Cuts were voted on the first time!</div></div>Let's see if we can dumb this down for you...I am referring to Obama being the ultimate approver while signing it into law (continuance) as President.

eg8r </div></div>

No! You were lying,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Quote:No, Obama did not approve Bush's tax cuts! He wasn't even in the senate when they were passed the first time.
G.



He signed his name so he bought into <span style='font-size: 14pt'>them</span>.

eg8r </div></div>

NO, he was not approving of them at all. He was protecting Middle Class and poor Americans from REpiglican PIGS.

The Repiglican bought into TARP. Unpaid Pharmaceutical giveaway for the pharmaceutical industry, in their unpaid for Medicare Drug program.

Billions upon billions lost and wasted in Iraq, for NOTHING!

Billions upon billions for a "Surge" that didn't work!

No party has ever cost this country the untold trillions in debt, waste, thievery and lies that Bush and the Repiglicans
spent, borrowed and wasted!

And how did he leave this country? Going down in flames, with two unfinished wars, and a broken economy!

PIGS!

G.

eg8r
08-16-2012, 09:26 AM
I just can't dumb it down enough for you can I. "Them" is referring to the tax cuts. Obama signed his name to "them", the tax cuts. Just how dumb are you willing to prove you are capable of being?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-16-2012, 09:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just can't dumb it down enough for you can I. "Them" is referring to the tax cuts. Obama signed his name to "them", the tax cuts. Just how dumb are you willing to prove you are capable of being?

eg8r </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO, he was not approving of them at all. He was protecting Middle Class and poor Americans from Repiglican PIGS.

</div></div>

Just how poorly were you reared that you insult and disgrace your parents with your rude, nasty disposition and immature, bad behavior!

G.

eg8r
08-16-2012, 01:43 PM
LOL, I look to you for inspiration.

eg8r