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pooltchr
08-18-2012, 08:19 PM
You're so predictable. Refusing to admit that you were sucked in by the smoke and mirrors of the 2008 Obama campaign, you continue to bitterly cling to "hope and change".

After nearly 4 years of failed Obama policies, 43 months of 8% plus unemployment, and more debt than under any other President in our history, you would find it easier to admit your mistake, and do something positive for the country.

I remember RR "inherited" a pretty crappy economy from Carter, but rather than spend 4 years blaming Carter, he just went about the task of turning the economy around.

That's what REAL leaders do. You have chosen to support a puppet who does the dance dictated by the string pullers. Wake up.

Something to think about. When you want to know something, the first suggestion is always to follow the money. So ask yourself, who profits from record national debt. Here's a hint...it's the big banks. And since both the Democrats and Republicans are owned by the big banks, do you really expect either party to come up with debt reduction or a balanced budget?

The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve

Soflasnapper
08-18-2012, 08:55 PM
remember RR "inherited" a pretty crappy economy from Carter, but rather than spend 4 years blaming Carter, he just went about the task of turning the economy around.

You forgot he spent every year blaming Carter's economy? He even brought it up again in his second nominating convention.

To be fair, he had to have some alibi for why his promise to balance the budget by 1982 (1983, 1984, etc.) had so utterly failed.

Unless by the end of 8 years, Obama has tripled the debt that existed when he came into office (roughly $10 trillions up to $30 trillions), he will come in far below Reagan's tripling of the debt he inherited, which Reagan achieved by blowing out the prior record deficits by 400% a year.

I'd like to join hands sans politics to achieve something needed for this country's economic and spiritual healing, but Reagan was when this debt trouble virus went ballistic, as the problem, not any kind of solution.

Soflasnapper
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
Here's Reagan <s>manning up, taking responsibility for the economy</s> alibiing his own economic record by blaming it on what he inherited:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The next time you hear a right winger complaining that one whole year! into Obama's Presidency he continues to blame George Bush for his our problems, remind them of the following quote from Reagan's 1983 State of the Union:

"The problems we inherited were far worse than most inside and out of government had expected; the recession was deeper than most inside and out of government had predicted. Curing those problems has taken more time and a higher toll than any of us wanted."

In Reagan's 1982 State of the Union, he went after his predecessor for blame plenty of times:

"To understand the State of the Union, we must look not only at where we are and where we're going but where we've been. The situation at this time last year was truly ominous."

...

"In the last six months of 1980, as an example, the money supply increased at the fastest rate in postwar history 13 percent. Inflation remained in double digits and Government spending increased at an annual rate of 17 percent. Interest rates reached a s taggering 21 1/2 percent. There were eight million unemployed."

...

"First, we must understand what's happening at the moment to the economy. Our current problems are not the product of the recovery program that's only just now getting under way, as some would have you believe; they are the inheritance of decades of tax and tax, and spend"

...

"Now the budget deficit this year will exceed our earlier expectations. The recession did that. It lowered revenues and increased costs."</div></div>

Here's (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-09-30/news/8603130025_1_president-carter-carter-presidential-center-mr-carter) a Chicago Tribune article, saying that as of 1986, Reagan had not let up on attacking Carter on the economy and everything else.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In virtually all his political speeches since then, Reagan still rails against the Carter presidency, portraying those years as a time when America was weak economically and militarily and impotent in the face of threats abroad. Bristling at the accusations, Carter personally phoned Reagan a few months ago and asked him to stop the attacks...</div></div>

Gayle in MD
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're so predictable. Refusing to admit that you were sucked in by the smoke and mirrors of the 2008 Obama campaign, you continue to bitterly cling to "hope and change".

After nearly 4 years of failed Obama policies, 43 months of 8% plus unemployment, and more debt than under any other President in our history, you would find it easier to admit your mistake, and do something positive for the country.

I remember RR "inherited" a pretty crappy economy from Carter, but rather than spend 4 years blaming Carter, he just went about the task of turning the economy around.

That's what REAL leaders do. You have chosen to support a puppet who does the dance dictated by the string pullers. Wake up.

Something to think about. When you want to know something, the first suggestion is always to follow the money. So ask yourself, who profits from record national debt. Here's a hint...it's the big banks. And since both the Democrats and Republicans are owned by the big banks, do you really expect either party to come up with debt reduction or a balanced budget?

The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve </div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">Truly a hilarious post, coming from the guy who attacked and insulted every person who was outraged over the growing and unprecedented massive debts and borrowed money throughout the Bush years of lies, law breaking and unprecedented spending and borrowing in concert with his blank check Repiglican Congress...

Perhaps the blinders remain on the eyes of those who slurpped up and chanted on this forum, Cheney's BS about how the deficits didn't matter for eight years!

Ronald Reagan was the most over rated president in history.

One of the most deceitful liars of all times.

A total puppet, who couldn't think for himself, ran from the press throughout his presidency, pretending he couldn't hear them, and lied to the American people with great aplomb for eight years,.... same as Bush, Bush and Nixon!

Follow the money? Ha Ha Ha, good one, considering Republicans are the proven big spending failures when it comes to handling the country's money!

G. </span>

LWW
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Ask them why during the Bush regime their were 1,300+ Wall Street convictions, and another 1,000+ duing the Clinton regime, yet the Obama has not yet filed a single charge against anyone?

Qtec
08-19-2012, 04:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're so predictable. </div></div>

Its YOU that is so predictable. You make a post, not based on any FACTS, but on RW talking points that have all ready been debunked!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Something to think about. When you want to know something, the first suggestion is always to follow the money. So ask yourself, who profits from record national debt. Here's a hint...it's the big banks. And since both the Democrats and Republicans are owned by the big banks, do you really expect either party to come up with debt reduction or a balanced budget?
</div></div>

One side is trying to, but the other side won't play ball. Have you forgotten that Obama tried to reign in Wall St but the GOP watered down every piece of legislation he brought forward?
Have you forgotten that before the last election BOTH sides were saying that rising health costs are a threat to the country?
Something had to be done?
Obama tried to negotiate. He worked for more than a year on this bill to reach a consensus and when it came to the crunch, the GOP voted almost to a man against it.

Q

Qtec
08-19-2012, 04:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ask them why during the Bush regime their were 1,300+ Wall Street convictions, and another 1,000+ duing the Clinton regime, yet the Obama has not yet filed a single charge against anyone? </div></div>

The biggest problem I have with Obama is that he has prosecuted the wrong people.

Its clear that Rove LEAKED a classified report to Judith Miller [from the NYT], so why is he not being prosecuted instead of being a regular face on the FOX channel?

Bush took the country to war on false pretences!!!!!!!!

That's not news apparently on the LameStream media,






Q

Qtec
08-19-2012, 04:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve </div></div>

Are you saying we should vote for Obama?

Q

LWW
08-19-2012, 07:02 AM
What part of "ZERO" is confusing to you?

LWW
08-19-2012, 07:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve </div></div>

Are you saying we should vote for Obama?

Q </div></div>

You do realize you proved his point.

Gayle in MD
08-19-2012, 07:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're so predictable. </div></div>

Its YOU that is so predictable. You make a post, not based on any FACTS, but on RW talking points that have all ready been debunked!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Something to think about. When you want to know something, the first suggestion is always to follow the money. So ask yourself, who profits from record national debt. Here's a hint...it's the big banks. And since both the Democrats and Republicans are owned by the big banks, do you really expect either party to come up with debt reduction or a balanced budget?
</div></div>

One side is trying to, but the other side won't play ball. Have you forgotten that Obama tried to reign in Wall St but the GOP watered down every piece of legislation he brought forward?
Have you forgotten that before the last election BOTH sides were saying that rising health costs are a threat to the country?
Something had to be done?
Obama tried to negotiate. He worked for more than a year on this bill to reach a consensus and when it came to the crunch, the GOP voted almost to a man against it.

Q



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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

</div></div>

Describes Repiglican voters to a T.!!!!

Remember their mantra all through the bush years....'The deficits don't matter!'

Right! The deficits only mattered AFTERR BUSH crashed the economy and blew Clinton's surplus, but when Democrats are trying to finance policies to get this country back up on its feet after their boy Bush spent us into a debt ditch, OMG, then we have to cut spending!

The Romney/Ryan plan is to kill off as many of the poor, the old, the hungry and the MC Americans as possible!



G.

Qtec
08-19-2012, 09:15 AM
No and No.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!
</div></div>

If Steve or you could do this, you cannot vote for Mitt.

Q

Soflasnapper
08-19-2012, 09:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ask them why during the Bush regime their were 1,300+ Wall Street convictions, and another 1,000+ duing the Clinton regime, yet the Obama has not yet filed a single charge against anyone? </div></div>

I've already shown that while the numbers are low, there have been over 1,000 charges of financial crimes and fraud filed and prosecuted the last couple of years.

You always over-read data to mean what it doesn't mean.

LWW
08-19-2012, 10:17 AM
Show me where you did this.

Soflasnapper
08-19-2012, 01:16 PM
On the thread it was mentioned, bub.

Big graph, as a graphic insert. You missed it?

Your Obama unchained Wall St. thread (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=395151#Post395151)

Here you go:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/11/15/business/economy/economix-15trac/economix-15trac-custom1.jpg

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Quote:
During the first 11 months of the 2011 fiscal year, the federal government filed 1,251 new prosecutions for financial institution fraud. If that pace continues, TRAC projects a total of 1,365 prosecutions for the fiscal year. Thatís less than half the total a decade ago.


Here

Then there's the following explanation:

Quote:
The declining number of fraud prosecutions in 2011 may reflect the increasingly widespread use of deferred prosecution agreements, a less-aggressive legal strategy that allows companies to voluntarily report their own misconduct and avoid harsh consequences in court. Since 2008, the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission have both adopted deferred prosecution tactics and put less emphasis on punitive measures for financial crimes, according to The New York Times.

What the report says is a broader, decade-long trend toward fewer fraud prosecutions may stem in part from more federal resources being directed toward anti-terrorism efforts in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, as suggested in a 2008 New York Times article about declining stock fraud cases.

Besides losing personnel to counterterrorism agencies, regulators have had to contend with political opposition and difficulty getting funding, which may have also played a role in limiting their ability to pursue cases. Congressional Republicans have made a number of attempts to weaken organizations like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. This week, the CFTC's 2012 budget was slashed by about $100 million as a result of congressional pressure. Earlier this year, the House Appropriations Committee cut the 2012 budget request for the SEC by $222.5 million.

While financial fraud cases are down by more than half from where they were a decade ago, a number of cases are currently active or have been recently settled, including multiple prosecutions for mortgage fraud, insider trading and embezzlement. </div></div>

pooltchr
08-19-2012, 08:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're so predictable. Refusing to admit that you were sucked in by the smoke and mirrors of the 2008 Obama campaign, you continue to bitterly cling to "hope and change".

After nearly 4 years of failed Obama policies, 43 months of 8% plus unemployment, and more debt than under any other President in our history, you would find it easier to admit your mistake, and do something positive for the country.

I remember RR "inherited" a pretty crappy economy from Carter, but rather than spend 4 years blaming Carter, he just went about the task of turning the economy around.

That's what REAL leaders do. You have chosen to support a puppet who does the dance dictated by the string pullers. Wake up.

Something to think about. When you want to know something, the first suggestion is always to follow the money. So ask yourself, who profits from record national debt. Here's a hint...it's the big banks. And since both the Democrats and Republicans are owned by the big banks, do you really expect either party to come up with debt reduction or a balanced budget?

The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve </div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">Truly a hilarious post, coming from the guy who attacked and insulted every person who was outraged over the growing and unprecedented massive debts and borrowed money throughout the Bush years of lies, law breaking and unprecedented spending and borrowing in concert with his blank check Repiglican Congress...

Perhaps the blinders remain on the eyes of those who slurpped up and chanted on this forum, Cheney's BS about how the deficits didn't matter for eight years!

Ronald Reagan was the most over rated president in history.

One of the most deceitful liars of all times.

A total puppet, who couldn't think for himself, ran from the press throughout his presidency, pretending he couldn't hear them, and lied to the American people with great aplomb for eight years,.... same as Bush, Bush and Nixon!

Follow the money? Ha Ha Ha, good one, considering Republicans are the proven big spending failures when it comes to handling the country's money!

G. </span> </div></div>

Still bitterly clinging to the hope and change lie, I see.

pooltchr
08-19-2012, 08:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ask them why during the Bush regime their were 1,300+ Wall Street convictions, and another 1,000+ duing the Clinton regime, yet the Obama has not yet filed a single charge against anyone? </div></div>

Because most of them are working for the Obama administration???

pooltchr
08-19-2012, 08:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve </div></div>

Are you saying we should vote for Obama?

Q </div></div>

Are you registered to vote? You should be. The dems sent me a voter registration card for Ginger Jennings. If my Golden Retreiver can vote, I guess you can too. Obama needs all the extra votes he can buy!

pooltchr
08-19-2012, 08:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The Romney/Ryan plan is to kill off as many of the poor, the old, the hungry and the MC Americans as possible!



G. </div></div>

Perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I have read all year! Save your brain cells...they seem to be abandoning you at an increased rate of speed.

Gayle in MD
08-19-2012, 11:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The Romney/Ryan plan is to kill off as many of the poor, the old, the hungry and the MC Americans as possible!



G. </div></div>

Perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I have read all year! Save your brain cells...they seem to be abandoning you at an increased rate of speed. </div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">LMAO! What a relief! If you ever stop attacking my statements, I'll get concerned.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555709_10151017716531275_1139668869_n.jpg

Ah, but you do give us all such great economic insight with your famous analogies!


</span>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>If you have a 5 foot long blanket and you are 6 feet tall, cutting one foot of the end of the blanket and adding it to the other end will not make it long enough.

Steve </span> </div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">Such a brilliant grasp of economics!

G. </span>

Gayle in MD
08-20-2012, 08:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're so predictable. Refusing to admit that you were sucked in by the smoke and mirrors of the 2008 Obama campaign, you continue to bitterly cling to "hope and change".

After nearly 4 years of failed Obama policies, 43 months of 8% plus unemployment, and more debt than under any other President in our history, you would find it easier to admit your mistake, and do something positive for the country.

I remember RR "inherited" a pretty crappy economy from Carter, but rather than spend 4 years blaming Carter, he just went about the task of turning the economy around.

That's what REAL leaders do. You have chosen to support a puppet who does the dance dictated by the string pullers. Wake up.

Something to think about. When you want to know something, the first suggestion is always to follow the money. So ask yourself, who profits from record national debt. Here's a hint...it's the big banks. And since both the Democrats and Republicans are owned by the big banks, do you really expect either party to come up with debt reduction or a balanced budget?

The parties lie, and ignorant people blindly follow the lead of the party of their choice. It's the height of stupidity, and will be the end of our country if we don't put a stop to it.

Lose the blinders, forget the political jerseys, and start to think for yourself!

Steve </div></div>

<span style="color: #990000">Truly a hilarious post, coming from the guy who attacked and insulted every person who was outraged over the growing and unprecedented massive debts and borrowed money throughout the Bush years of lies, law breaking and unprecedented spending and borrowing in concert with his blank check Repiglican Congress...

Perhaps the blinders remain on the eyes of those who slurpped up and chanted on this forum, Cheney's BS about how the deficits didn't matter for eight years!

Ronald Reagan was the most over rated president in history.

One of the most deceitful liars of all times.

A total puppet, who couldn't think for himself, ran from the press throughout his presidency, pretending he couldn't hear them, and lied to the American people with great aplomb for eight years,.... same as Bush, Bush and Nixon!

Follow the money? Ha Ha Ha, good one, considering Republicans are the proven big spending failures when it comes to handling the country's money!

G. </span> </div></div>

Still bitterly clinging to the hope and change lie, I see. </div></div>

Still lying and Denying I see.


http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/17/13337744-define-worse?lite

eg8r
08-20-2012, 08:49 AM
If you want 8% or higher unemployment and a failed economy.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-20-2012, 09:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you want 8% or higher unemployment and a failed economy.

eg8r </div></div>

Actually that was the stated goal of the Repiglicans in Congress from the day the president took office, and everything they have done since, proves it.

Unprecedented Obstructionism! they proved it when they created the debt limit disaster, which set the recovery back, as well as confidence in every aspect of recessionary recovery.

Additionaly, things were much worse when Bush dropped the worst legacy ever handed off to a president, in history,

Many economicsts say, even worst than The Great Depression!

G.

eg8r
08-20-2012, 11:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually that was the stated goal of the Repiglicans in Congress from the day the president took office</div></div>Instead of running your mouth, prove it. How us a link where the Republicans stated what I posted. If you can't then take qtips advice for lww. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r

Gayle in MD
08-20-2012, 11:35 AM
I really don't know how to how you a link.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If you want 8% or higher unemployment and a failed economy.

eg8r</div></div>

We don't have a failed economy. Our economy has been improving throughout the Obama Administration. He created more jobs already, and under am incredibly more difficult situation, than your boy Bush could do in all of eight years!

Repiglicans stated quite clearly that their MAIN GOAL was to make this president a one term president. That was before he had done anyting! It irritates the right on here, because I have always said that Repiglicans are sore losers, and they prove that every single time they lose a presidential election, just as they did when they spent millions of dollard diggng around in Bill Clinton's private life, and found nothing but a BJ between consenting adults.

Repiglicans promised from the start, not to compromise for the good of the country, and they didn't compromise, but fought against every single bill, even those they had formerly backed, themselves, proving they did not care about bringing our economy back up.

In fact, they did everything they could do to make it worse.

Their policy was not to invest in creating jobs.

Not to try to join together with the president, and democrats,m to find common ground for the good of the country.

No, their 'Top Priority' as Mitch Mcconnell stated, was to make this persident a one term president.

That statement was made before president Obama even got his suit back from the cleaners after the presidential celebrations!

All proven FACTS!

So it's your turn to 'how' me a link!

G.

eg8r
08-20-2012, 01:24 PM
OK, so you did not have a link and proved you are just running your mouth. Good job granny.

eg8r