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llotter
08-24-2012, 06:08 PM
You all heard The Moron make the claim that he has deported more illegals, in fact were at record levels. Any thoughtful person hearing that certainly would have raised a doubtful eyebrow and it now turns out their doubts were justified. Deportations were not higher but lower and the administration cooked the books to give bragging right to The Moron, which he promptly used.

Another everyday lie from the Left to deceive the citizens.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24...ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/lamar-smith-obama-deportation_n_1828860.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

Gayle in MD
08-24-2012, 06:48 PM
From your link:





<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Immigration and Customs Enforcement under the Obama administration does count those removals in its total deportation figures. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>The problem with the claim, though, is that the policy isn't really an Obama-era conspiracy -- it's just the way deportation numbers have been tabulated for years.</span>

The George W. Bush administration also counted immigrants caught at the border, in both general enforcement and as part of a program started in 2008 called the Alien Transfer Exit Program, the program with which the committee takes issue. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Bush also deported fewer people per year -- far fewer in some years -- than the current administration.</span>


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The Department of Homeland Security deported a record 396,906 undocumented immigrants in the 2011 fiscal year, up from 392,826 in 2010. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> "ICE accounting methodologies related to individuals arrested by the Border Patrol have not changed under this Administration," ICE spokesman Ross Feinstein said in a statement. "These border-related removals have increased in recent years as ICE has dedicated unprecedented resources to border security and has significantly increased its presence along the border."

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Have you ever considered writing a single post that isn't a lie?



G.

llotter
08-24-2012, 07:06 PM
The lie is clearly stated, deportations are at an all-time high and this was what The Moron bragged about. That is a knowing deception, therefore a lie.

llotter
08-24-2012, 07:31 PM
Anytime The Moron is bragging, you can bet he is cooking the numbers.

Soflasnapper
08-24-2012, 08:16 PM
Since turning the undocumenteds away at the border is also desired by the control the border types, and wholly prevents the need for later deporting them, this doesn't seem a big issue, especially since this is the standard reporting method.

It's like making arguments that Obama's UE-6 numbers are the real ones, not the UE-3s, and then comparing them to W's UE-3 numbers by comparison. These are standard reporting methods, and that makes them fully comparable across the many presidencies, for as long as that method was used in reporting out the facts.

llotter
08-25-2012, 07:06 AM
The problem is that illegals are turned back at some distant border and results in inflating the numbers by about 80000 this past year. Under the ATEP, aliens are transferred from one state to another and each time counted as a 'deportation' as though they left the country.

Illegals will cease to be a problem however, as The Moron brings America lower that Mexico in living standard.

LWW
08-25-2012, 07:50 AM
From Barry's hips to the cabal's lips.

Gayle in MD
08-25-2012, 09:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The lie is clearly stated, deportations are at an all-time high and this was what The Moron bragged about. That is a knowing deception, therefore a lie. </div></div>

Yes, yea, we all know, the <span style='font-size: 17pt'>MORON</span> lied his ass off for eight years! Mission Accomplished! Saddam has WMD! The tubes can only be used for WMD! The deficits don't matter!

Trust me, America knows who the MORON is! The right is just still in the la la land of denial, where they have been for the last forty years! The racist, misogynist pigs will remain there, and the rest of us http://www.moveon.org!

G.

Soflasnapper
08-26-2012, 03:08 PM
A person crossing the border without lawful right is seized, put into government custody, processed, and then turned back across the border frontier.

This process is known as deportation.

But because these deportations occurred at the source, at the border, the claim is that it is false to count them as deportations.

Why? Because this is a new change that is designed to pad up numbers, and a gross misinterpretation of what it means to be deported?

No. It isn't a new change, and it is exactly the process of deportation, not some strained reinterpretation of something that isn't deportation being called that, improperly.

No, the charge is that deportations under Obama are not deportations, because they are under Obama, the Devil's faux president (or something /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif).

And we KNOW (because we've been told) that TDFP Obama has not done ANYTHING to secure the borders. REFUSES to secure the borders, in 'fact.' Based on that 'fact,' isn't it clear that NOBODY is being apprehended and turned back on the border?

So we can be assured that this reporting is false. Either because such 'bad' deportations are still real deportations, or that there are no such captures and turnbacks at the border that TDFP Obama has left entirely unsecured on purpose.

Pick your choice of the above!