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DiabloViejo
08-27-2012, 07:33 PM
<span style="color: #000099">Romney's plan would cost younger Americans even more, since Romney and Ryan want to turn Medicare into a voucher system for Americans under 55 for when they qualify for Medicare. The report estimates that 48-year-olds would have to pay $124,600 more for Medicare during retirement under Romney's plan, 39-year-olds would have to pay $216,600 more during retirement, and 29-year-olds would have to pay $331,200 more during retirement in total. That's because the vouchers would not keep up with rising health care costs. <u>For those 29-year-olds, the extra costs would consume 62 percent of their lifetime Social Security benefits.</u></span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Would Cost 29-Year-Olds $331,200: Report</span>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/mitt-romney-paul-ryan-health-care_n_1833187.html

LWW
08-28-2012, 08:05 AM
The amazing thing is that so many people will believe such a risible pack of lies without ever actually bothering to read the plan.

Soflasnapper
08-28-2012, 11:17 AM
There is no actual Romney endorsed plan.

Romney is selling a pig in a poke, and it's fair to attribute one or more of Ryan's plans to him, until and unless he specifies his own endorsed plan in detail.

So one may pick between and among the first or second Ryan plan, or the later Wyden-involved plan (never put into legislative form or scored, to my knowledge-- it was a white paper, not a draft law).

Reading WHICH plan were you advising?

I'm guessing you refer to the non-legislatively drafted talking point paper of Ryan/Wyden. As opposed to the prior two Ryan plans that were actually passed by the House of Representatives.
Is that right, or do you lack any idea of any of these details at all?

DiabloViejo
08-28-2012, 11:23 AM
Risible lies? OK, here you go...

CBS News fact checks Romney/Ryan Medicare claims and concludes that Romney is lying:

http://youtu.be/8Gm8YJaD6C8

From the draft of the RNC platform:

“The first step is to move the two programs [Medicare and Medicaid] away from their current unsustainable defined-benefit entitlement model to a fiscally sound defined-contribution model. While retaining the option of traditional Medicare in competition with private plans, we call for a transition to a premium-support model for Medicare, with an income-adjusted contribution toward a health plan of the enrollee’s choice. This model will include private health insurance plans that provide catastrophic protection, to ensure the continuation of doctor-patient relationships.”

Republicans like to call it premium support but it’s really a voucher plan. And in Republicanese that means “You’re on your own grandpa.” They call it premium support because it sounds pleasant but it’s anything but. Seniors will start with zero and they’ll give you X dollars and if you need more than that – good luck. And each year – they give y0u less than the cost of inflation leaving seniors paying the difference. It is easy to balance the budget by turning your back on the people who need help the most; people will literally die because of the Republican plan.


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Soflasnapper
08-28-2012, 11:32 AM
Forgot about the new kid on the block, what the party platform says, in my list of the various plans out there (above).

However, we've just been told that Romney isn't on board with the platform, by the Chairman of the RNC, Priebus. ("That's the party platform, not the Romney platform!!" he recently explained.)

What Romney says today will not likely be what he says down the road a piece (like, tomorrow), so it is entirely unclear what he'll claim to be in favor of.