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llotter
09-03-2012, 11:05 AM
I have noticed over the years how much better are liberals at making the conservative case even though such occasions are quite rare. Maybe when a liberal says it, you know he is being honest rather than just political because it goes against his inclinations.

Anyway, here is what John Cusack has to say about The Moron:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppa...e#ixzz25Q148cvt (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/09/03/john-cusack-obama-just-another-ivy-league-hole#ixzz25Q148cvt)

This is precisely what most conservatives have been saying for years but were usually written off as racists or worse.

Soflasnapper
09-03-2012, 12:09 PM
First, of course, Cusack does not call him the moron (as you do), nor is anything he says consistent with the idea that the president is a moron.

I happen to agree that the Obama escalation in AfPak is unwise, unsound policy, and more of the Bush doctrine crap. Cusack's not just slightly wrong to say it means a policy of endless war, however. We have a withdrawal onset date in hand already, as of the escalation, in fact.

But more to the point, which conservatives do you assert also hold that view?

Perhaps the Buchanan paleolithic conservatives that still hold to non-intervention principles similar to the GOP's pre-WW II former lights like Dewey or Lindbergh. There are no such conservatives in power in the GOP these days. The other faction that would agree would be the libertarians, also not any kind of major power sector in the GOP or among the remaining conservative movement, as we see how Rep. Dr. Ron Paul has been treated.

Did what pass as conservatives these days argue for the closure of Gitmo? The end of special rendition and black sites? Ceasing torture or whatever euphemism chosen to mean the same thing?

I haven't heard many voices from the conservo-quarters, again, excepting the Paullite Libertarians and the Buchananite paleo-cons (who are voice in the wilderness, far from the core of the modern conservative consensus).

Isn't that all true?

Gayle in MD
09-03-2012, 12:42 PM
No, not written off, just truthfully pointed out. It's a fact.

Republicans ARE racists.

Worse, Republicans ARE also misogynists.

Just as bad, Republicans ARE homophobic.

And Republicans are the party of the crazy religious fundamentalists zealots who are most responsible for causig division and mayhem and dividing this country with the same misogynistic dictatorship, Homophobic insanity, love of war and violence policies as The Taliban.

And lastly, Republicans are PIGS, who lie and slander non-stop, and have intentionally dragged our country down into the PIT they dug, when they could have had the honor to work with the Prsident in order to reverse the devastating results of THEIR OWN FAILED POLICIES.

Instead of working to do what Americans pay them to do, and work for copromise, instaed they kept unemployment numbers rising. C
Caused greater economic mayhem, to destroy the recovery, throwing as many out of work as they could. Intentionally blocking the extension of the Debt Limit, which all economists said was risy and irresponsible.

Yet they have the sheer GALL to ingore and deny the fact that without this president, we'd be struggling our of The Bush Depression, worse than The Great Depression.

John Dean was right, Republicans are Without Conscience. If not for their proven low information, stupid supporters, they wouldn't have had a chance in hell to have won back the majority.

Romney/Ryan are both repulsive. That's why people don't like either one of them, and why there was no true "Bump" from their disgusting Convention of shame and dishonor.


G.

llotter
09-03-2012, 05:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First, of course, Cusack does not call him the moron (as you do), nor is anything he says consistent with the idea that the president is a moron.

I happen to agree that the Obama escalation in AfPak is unwise, unsound policy, and more of the Bush doctrine crap. Cusack's not just slightly wrong to say it means a policy of endless war, however. We have a withdrawal onset date in hand already, as of the escalation, in fact.

But more to the point, which conservatives do you assert also hold that view?

Perhaps the Buchanan paleolithic conservatives that still hold to non-intervention principles similar to the GOP's pre-WW II former lights like Dewey or Lindbergh. There are no such conservatives in power in the GOP these days. The other faction that would agree would be the libertarians, also not any kind of major power sector in the GOP or among the remaining conservative movement, as we see how Rep. Dr. Ron Paul has been treated.

Did what pass as conservatives these days argue for the closure of Gitmo? The end of special rendition and black sites? Ceasing torture or whatever euphemism chosen to mean the same thing?

I haven't heard many voices from the conservo-quarters, again, excepting the Paullite Libertarians and the Buchananite paleo-cons (who are voice in the wilderness, far from the core of the modern conservative consensus).

Isn't that all true? </div></div>

No, Cusack doesn't refer to The Moron as the moron that his policies clearly show that he is but he does refers to him as an 'Ivy League A**hole'. As I argued here, Bush had the sense to cut the troop level in Afghanistan to a skeletal level for lack of any significant targets there. The A**hole makes the supremely gutsy yet half-assed (based on the number of troops the generals on the ground said was needed, he sent exactly half) buildup supported only by a 'stone bullshit' of a speech. And to make matters worse, The Moron announces a surrender date at the same time as he is ordering in the troops...talk about moronic.

And if Iraq turns out to be a 'success',and I hope it does, it will be in spite of The A**hole rather than to his credit. And the growing takeover of the Middle East and North Africa by the Muslim Brotherhood cannot bode well for the peace and security of the rest of the world was aided and abetted by The Moron.

And generally snubbing (that's putting it mildly) our historic allies and play footsie with dangerous partners. The Moron pretends to know what he's doing but it is belied by reality at every turn.

He has made an equally egregious mess out of our domestic economy. As I argued here, an economic recession caused by excessive debt, both public and private, cannot be cured by increasing the debt by huge increments...that is moronic.