View Full Version : Lying Ryan Backtracks On GM Plant Closure

09-05-2012, 12:53 AM
<span style="color: #000099">In his convention speech in Tampa, Ryan said: ‘When he [Obama] talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory. A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant.

‘Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: “I believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another hundred years”. That’s what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day.’

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>He's backpedaling now. He's changing his tune.</span>

"What they are trying to suggest is that I said Barack Obama was responsible for the plant shutdown in Janesville,’ Ryan told NBC. ‘That is not what I was saying; read the speech. What I was saying is the president ought to be held to account for his broken promises. After the plant was shut down, he said he would lead efforts to restore the plant. It’s still idle"

Uh, with the GOP openly declaring that they were doing NOTHING but making sure Obama is a 1-term President, would there have been a snowball's chance in hell of getting anything done? I highly doubt it. I do have one question though. If Ryan agrees with the statement Obama made about "if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another hundred years" and he should have done something (after the fact), where's the anger and ire towards the President that was in office at that time? You know, the one that COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING?</span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Now Paul Ryan backtracks claiming he was NOT blaming Obama for Janesville car plant closure</span>
PUBLISHED: 14:36 EST, 4 September 2012 | UPDATED: 15:29 EST, 4 September 2012

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz25ZkSRo00 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2198338/Paul-Ryan-says-blaming-Obama-Janesville-car-plant-closure.html#ixzz25ZkSRo00)

09-05-2012, 06:39 AM
Just keep repeating the lie until it is accepted as the 'truth'. The Left does not make any attempt to distinguish truth from lies because it conveniently defines the 'truth' as whatever enhances the power of the state. Their one true love is to be in charge of everything and everyone.

Gayle in MD
09-05-2012, 07:42 AM
Without a doubt, Ryan's entire speech was chock full of lies. I thing that much has been proven thoroughly.

The FACT that they stated that they had no interest in Fact Checkers, proves to me that they know that their rignorant racist followers don't care how much they lie.

Repubican voters have no honor, and hence, lies don't matter to them. That is the truly pathetic truth.


09-05-2012, 08:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What I was saying is the president ought to be held to account for his broken promises</div></div>This will never happpen. No lefty weenie, especially on this board, will force Obama to account for his broken promises.

What is really funny is the hypocrisy of the left. Here we have Ryan's "backpedalling" and the left calling him out for it, yet this weekend we had a lefty say something and then back pedal and complete silence from the left. Why aren't you calling him out for his backpedalling?


09-05-2012, 09:23 AM
That wasn't a backpedal ... that was just dumbing it down for the occutards.

09-05-2012, 02:20 PM
Uh huh, yep that Ryan always tells the truth right? Well,let's see shall we?

Ryan: "In 1980 under Jimmy Carter, 330,000 businesses filed for bankruptcy. Last year, under President Obama’s failed leadership, 1.4 million businesses filed for bankruptcy."

So Ryan tries to portrait President Obama as though Obama is the 2nd coming of a President Carter, and Romney is the 2nd coming of President Reagan. But hey, tou know what? There's a problem with Ryan’s speech … it’s not true. Surprise, surprise, Gomers.

NY Times:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/...-of-better-off/ (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/paul-adds-some-loaded-figures-to-question-of-better-off/)

<span style="color: #000099">"But he appeared to conflate business bankruptcies and much more numerous personal bankruptcies. Of the 331,264 bankruptcies in 1980, only 43,694 were for businesses, according to the American Bankruptcy Institute.

Of the 1,410,653 total bankruptcy filings last year, 47,806 were business bankruptcies, according to the institute. And, again, the numbers are falling. In 2009, there were 60,837 business bankruptcies. In July, the latest month with complete statistics, business bankruptcies were 22 percent lower than a year earlier, and personal bankruptcies were down 11 percent."
American Bankruptcy Institute: http://www.abiworld.org/AM/AMTemplate.cf...tentDisplay.cfm (http://www.abiworld.org/AM/AMTemplate.cfm?Section=Home&CONTENTID=65139&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm)

OK Gomers, you can now go back to your scheduled program of idiocy and name calling! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

09-05-2012, 02:45 PM
Why can't you discuss nything honestly?

09-05-2012, 03:16 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why can't you discuss nything honestly? </div></div>

<span style="color: #FF6600">ROFLMMFAO!! YOU'RE SOOOOO FUNNY!!</span>


Engaging in honest discussion with the likes of your kind is pointless! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

<span style='font-size: 14pt'><span style="color: #000099">Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.--Albert Einstein