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llotter
09-11-2012, 03:03 PM
The PM requests a face to face on his visit to U.S. and was turned down. Maybe it that public dressing down that Netanyahu delivered to The Moron last year. I wonder if that retard Sec. of State will fill see fit to meet with him or has The Moron cut off all relations with Israel's current leader. Nobody humiliates The Moron and survives to talk about it.

Soflasnapper
09-11-2012, 06:19 PM
You take an exceedingly anti-American position on this one.

Even the Israeli newspapers have told Bibi he was way out of line, and needs to rein back his dissing of the US president, whoever it is.

From today's Haaretz:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Netanyahu must set red lines on his malice toward Obama. And soon.</span>

If deadlines are in order, Netanyahu might consider his upcoming U.S. visit as an opportune moment to shut down entirely the verbal centrifuges he has set spinning in attacks on the president.</div></div>

link (http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/a-special-place-in-hell/netanyahu-must-set-red-lines-on-his-malice-toward-obama-and-soon.premium-1.464324)

The president will be in NYC at the UN earlier in the week, and then Bibi comes in at the end of the week. They are in separate cities. There is a scheduling conflict. The president is a little busy. There is no indication that Bibi offered to come to DC, or wherever it is Obama is scheduled to be. The POTUS is not at the beck and call of tiny rump states that are wholly dependent upon our backing. The flea called to the elephant, and wasn't heard too well. Especially such an obnoxious flea, as all who know him attest.

Of course, the government to government contacts continue, ambassador to ambassador, SecState to high Israeli officials, and it's said SecState Clinton will meet with him. Some snub. More like a put up outrage for political reasons.

eg8r
09-11-2012, 06:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You take an exceedingly anti-American position on this one.</div></div>You take an exceedingly anti-comprehension position on your response. llotter was taking a very anti-Obama position.

eg8r

llotter
09-12-2012, 09:18 AM
How magnanimous of The Moron to spend an hour on the phone last night attempting to smooth out relations with the flea that is bothering him. But I understand he wasn't very successful. Oh well, at least The Moron tried. Fleas are known to lack any sense and are notorious for being uncooperative.

Soflasnapper
09-12-2012, 09:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You take an exceedingly anti-American position on this one.</div></div>You take an exceedingly anti-comprehension position on your response. llotter was taking a very anti-Obama position.

eg8r </div></div>

Anti-Obama, via an entirely overly pro-Israel position.

Israel is the approximate size of Connecticut, and only of consequence because of the money of their co-religionists and that influence that is bought on both sides of the aisle in this country.

The sooner that influence can be publicly identified and mentioned and discussed, the better to curb it, the better. We have presidents and Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on record that it has been in place for decades, and to the extreme harm of our own country.

If you want a hint as to where the power lies, ask yourself what power center and group cannot be mentioned. And that would be the answer.

In the question of who to support and what policies-- between our own duly elected president or the horrific little man across the water who wants to start WW III (or have us do his attack for him and start it ourselves)-- there is no choice for a patriot, or anyone who understands the extreme imperative that a war involving nuclear weapons must be avoided, and that even a conventional war in that region would destroy the world's economy.

Gayle in MD
09-12-2012, 10:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You take an exceedingly anti-American position on this one.</div></div>You take an exceedingly anti-comprehension position on your response. llotter was taking a very anti-Obama position.

eg8r </div></div>

Anti-Obama, via an entirely overly pro-Israel position.

Israel is the approximate size of Connecticut, and only of consequence because of the money of their co-religionists and that influence that is bought on both sides of the aisle in this country.

The sooner that influence can be publicly identified and mentioned and discussed, the better to curb it, the better. We have presidents and Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on record that it has been in place for decades, and to the extreme harm of our own country.

If you want a hint as to where the power lies, ask yourself what power center and group cannot be mentioned. And that would be the answer.

In the question of who to support and what policies-- between our own duly elected president or the horrific little man across the water who wants to start WW III (or have us do his attack for him and start it ourselves)-- there is no choice for a patriot, or anyone who understands the extreme imperative that a war involving nuclear weapons must be avoided, and that even a conventional war in that region would destroy the world's economy. </div></div>

There has never been a better time to denounce the damaging, hidden involvement of the Powerful Israeli Lobby in Washington D.C. and their damaging influence in our foreign policy.

After NetanYAHOO's statements in the last two days, I'd love to see our country drop Israel entirely, and tell them flat out!.... Hey, little man, WE TELL YOU, YOU DON'T TELL US! NOW STFU... or we won't do a damned thing for you ever again!

They want us to send them billions every year, fight their wars for them, while they stick a knife in our backs!

No wonder nobody over there can get along with them! They are outrageous and unbelievably pompous and arrogant!

Hey, let them fight their own battles with Iran. They are just inflaming another wrong headed war in the Middle East, meanwhile, they have been just as immoral, and inhumane as any other country in the M.E.!

I am sick and tired of Israel!

And Sick and tired of their American/NEOCON policies interfering in our foreign policy decisions!

I say SCREW ISRAEL!

Let them learn to compromise and get along with their own neighbors, or fight their own battles. They have refused to compromise and work for peace for decades!
they turn down every American request that they work toward peace, and then they lie about the negotiations.,

They get more and more outrageous over time!

Now, they're trying to influence our elections, but this time, right out in the open, with statements which border on interference with our own elections! They disgust me!

I would love to hear Obama and Hillary say in so many words, SCREW YOU ISRAEL! You're on your own! We are not gong to give you more billions upon billions, and protect your asses, while you trash us on the global stage!

Our entire problem in the Middle East is linked to our Israeli policies of protecting Israel, and Republicans Propping up rogue dictators all over the Middle East, because they refuse to face the problems with filthy dirty OIL!!

Drop 'em!
G.

llotter
09-12-2012, 11:45 AM
He have the most anti-Israel president in our history and the result are attacks on America. It is an illusion to think that once Israel has been eliminated our troubles are behind us in the Middle East or with Radical Islam. Given the financing that oil has made possible, the violent nature of Islam is the problem that we need to understand.

Gayle in MD
09-12-2012, 12:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> He have the most anti-Israel president in our history</div></div>
Huh?

LMAO!

These attacks in the Middle East were all about another radical religious nutjob, like some here, who actually had put an anti-Muslim cartoon on the Internet!

Your boy Reverend Jones, in Florida, FYI!

It had nothn to do with the President. It had everything to do with Reverend Jones, the Idiot racist Reverend.

We should fly him over there and paracute him right in the middle of the protestors!

As for Israel, they have gone way beyond what is acceptable in recent days, and we sure as hell don't need Israel! They need us, yet they have the sheer gall to insult us!

Screw 'em!

Soflasnapper
09-12-2012, 01:02 PM
Nice rant, and I agree with it.

Of course, we've been keeping Arab dictators in place for generations for our own corrupt reasons, quite apart from the concerns of Israel, so there is a little bit more to it.

But so far as it goes, you're right.

Soflasnapper
09-12-2012, 01:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He have the most anti-Israel president in our history and the result are attacks on America. It is an illusion to think that once Israel has been eliminated our troubles are behind us in the Middle East or with Radical Islam. Given the financing that oil has made possible, the violent nature of Islam is the problem that we need to understand. </div></div>

You must not have notice that 9/11 was done partially as revenge for our overly pro-Israeli posture. I think even the coverup commission had to admit that, although only in a footnote or in hearings that didn't make it to the report.

It was properly said in reply to the claim that Israel is our only friendly state in the ME, that before Israel, we had no enemy states in the ME at all.

What we as a country need to know about the violent nature of Islam [sic] is that it is ginned up at Langley and before that in the councils of MI-6 for the purpose of the western control of the dictatorships we installed and allowed to remain in place, and also to provide the sine qua non excuse for triple the 'defense' expenditures as when the Cold War with the USSR was at its height.

Realistically, and even now with this alleged WOT, 'defense' spending ought to be cut by 2/3rds, based on a realistic assessment of the national threat situation. That certain powers object to losing that business is why they have the FBI create through entrapment of hapless losers alleged but insubstantial and non-credible terror 'threats.'

The issue is not only how much they can 'legitimately' make out of the large scale contracting, but also how much they can steal out of those budgets. The greater and more lavish the total budget, the greater amount can be stolen, converted, diverted, etc., to the 'right' pockets.

Reagan's Director of the Office of Management and Budget, David Stockman, said there was $40 billion of annual waste, fraud and abuse in the military budget, when it was only $200 billion a year. Then SecDef Donald Rumsfeld said there was a domestic enemy creating a matter of life and death for the country, called the Pentagon bureaucracy, which had 'misplaced' and could not account for $2.1 TRILLION DOLLARS in spending.

Violent nature of Islam? Wake up.

Gayle in MD
09-12-2012, 01:29 PM
Excellent post.

What do people expect to result from millions of Middle Eastern children growing up in their own homeland where they have watched their families and their countries be blown to smitherines by American bombs and aircraft their whole lives?

But it is always the Republicans pushing for more war, and more spending by the Military Industrial Congresional/complex. It's their own Jewish-American styled Lehmann brothers, on steroids!

Hence, Mitsey's threats are music to their ears! The Neocons can't wait for another shot at all of that free, "MIssing" billions upon billions in cold hard cash, vanished in the fog of war!

It's disgustng!

That's why they don't like our fighting al Qaeda with drones! Cuts them right out of their thievery opportunities!


A strict draft, where no one can skip out is the only solution, IMO.

G.

llotter
09-12-2012, 02:07 PM
Perhaps you didn't know that while The Moron has been making it a major part of his campaign that he killed Osama, the violent protesters in Cairo were chanting something like, 'We are all Osamas now'.

As our 'president' struts around bragging about how many Muslims he has killed, I am sure their feelings of the radicals go unaffected.

BTW, I haven't seen the offending movie but my guess is that it is a pretty accurate description of Islam. I think it time for some Quran burning.

Gayle in MD
09-12-2012, 02:38 PM
I think it's time for you to put your butt where your mouth is, and time for us to draft all of America's Muslim Haters to go over there and kill the radical Muslims, which not all Muslims are, since you all hate them so much, and you are all so fond of guns and murderers, we should send all of "You People" over there, and bring our young troops back home.


The President doesn't go around bragging about getting bin Laden,, other Democrats do that, as well we should, since all of Bush's "WANTED! DEAD OR ALIVE!" bravado, didn't get the job done in eight damned years!

Your racist rhetoric is offensive.

You really should go to Florida and hook up with Jones the radical RW religious nutjobs down there! You'd fit right in with his congregation.

G.