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llotter
09-13-2012, 08:52 PM
"Let's face it, a mixed kid from Hawaii born to a single mom is not likely to become President of the United States. But in America it can happen because of education, because somebody gave me opportunity."

Where is the truth? Was Stanley Ann married when The Moron was born or not? Or was he just showing off how smart he is?

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/president-obama-in-golden-colorado

Gayle in MD
09-14-2012, 10:34 AM
Why don't you read the biography?

Obviously, you prefer spreading lies on the internet, to any attempt to educate yourself.

David Maraniss


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/books/review/barack-obama-by-david-maraniss.html?pagewanted=all

Afraid you will find out who the REAL MORON REALLY IS?

Soflasnapper
09-14-2012, 11:10 AM
The dead horse you are whipping resents the treatment, I've heard.

What possible effect is this supposed to have? I must say as an electoral strategy, to affect voters' choices, it is probably the opposite of what you'd prefer. In fact, that's one of the stronger critiques of the birther claims-- that it is really the Obama side rat-f*cking the right, and you can hear any number of well-known voices from the right stating this theory as fact.

You think any persuadable voter will be swayed with such fluffery and ancillary matters as this?

The man's been in office for 3-1/2 years, and what should be obvious to all is that it is his record in that office that should determine whether he's rehired, or fired, from that office.

Obvious to all except the blind dead-enders, I guess, based on what I'm seeing.

But it is liberating to ignore what is effective, and just let that freak flag fly, baby!

It's not surprising that, given the level of hatred, loathing, disgust, etc., of these most strident of Obama haters (but hey, don't call them racist!!!), they could care less that their continuing attacks may very well create a backlash out of sympathy or just plain common sense, and convince undecided voters more to change to supporting him than opposing him.

Such counterproductive venting should take place behind closed doors, not in the public marketplace of ideas, or else you stand revealed as a fringe fanatic, and you harm your own stated preferred presidential prospects.

llotter
09-14-2012, 11:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why don't you read the biography?

Obviously, you prefer spreading lies on the internet, to any attempt to educate yourself.

David Maraniss


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/books/review/barack-obama-by-david-maraniss.html?pagewanted=all

Afraid you will find out who the REAL MORON REALLY IS? </div></div>\

What do you believe, Maraniss' biography or The Moron's own words as I saw on TV and quoted on his own website? I guess you define the 'truth' as that which supports your Marxist goals.

Gayle in MD
09-14-2012, 11:35 AM
You are very uneducated on this subject.

No, you do not have his own words. You have nothing to prove that President Obama was not born in this country, is not a Christian, and is not an American Citizen.

Absolutely NOTHING.

But that doesn't stop you from continuing to make a total fool of yourself, and prove that you are among the most ignorant, most racist and most uneducated people in our country.If you are gong to continue to spread these un-American lies about our president, do not continue to do so without any proof whatsoever.

It is offensive, and it is UNAMERICAN.

I'm quite sure the last thing you'd be interested in doing is reading a well researched complete biography, by a highly respected author and biographer, known for his extensive research.



G.

llotter
09-14-2012, 12:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The dead horse you are whipping resents the treatment, I've heard.

What possible effect is this supposed to have? I must say as an electoral strategy, to affect voters' choices, it is probably the opposite of what you'd prefer. In fact, that's one of the stronger critiques of the birther claims-- that it is really the Obama side rat-f*cking the right, and you can hear any number of well-known voices from the right stating this theory as fact.

You think any persuadable voter will be swayed with such fluffery and ancillary matters as this?

The man's been in office for 3-1/2 years, and what should be obvious to all is that it is his record in that office that should determine whether he's rehired, or fired, from that office.

Obvious to all except the blind dead-enders, I guess, based on what I'm seeing.

But it is liberating to ignore what is effective, and just let that freak flag fly, baby!

It's not surprising that, given the level of hatred, loathing, disgust, etc., of these most strident of Obama haters (but hey, don't call them racist!!!), they could care less that their continuing attacks may very well create a backlash out of sympathy or just plain common sense, and convince undecided voters more to change to supporting him than opposing him.

Such counterproductive venting should take place behind closed doors, not in the public marketplace of ideas, or else you stand revealed as a fringe fanatic, and you harm your own stated preferred presidential prospects. </div></div>

It isn't the election that motivates birthers and similar detractors, it is the belief that The Moron is a Marxist/commie/socialist and that he is hiding much of his past that the American people are entitled to know. I think most of us think that if the truth were known, he would be in jail for fraud. Let me quote myself from another recent thread:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those of us who believe that freedom it the ultimate 'good' and that keeping that freedom depends on limiting government to a size no larger than required to protect that freedom and maintaining civility, it is impossible to accept or compromise with those who want to expand it even beyond its current bloated size. It should be enough to know the government is the natural enemy of freedom and therefore must be strictly limited but happily, maximizing liberty also maximizes prosperity.

So along comes a real Red Diaper Baby, The Moron, with his grandiose ideas about fundamentally transforming our country but his words and his policies are so extremely stupid as to be justifiably call moronic. He is gifted orator and with plenty of commie support from academia has been setting about transforming our country toward his Marxist/statist goals. I suspect he understands that capitalism is the most efficient economic system because he said as much but he knowingly sacrifices those benefits for more equal distribution of the wealth. He believes it is better to have less wealth more evenly distributed than more wealth unfairly divided.

This has obvious problems for the bulk of society but works quite well for the politicians in charge. And being that they have police power, the nomenclatura at the top envision themselves as being in charge for a very long time.

Honestly, I have nothing against The Moron except maybe for his messiah self-image. I only use that moniker to emphasize how radical and anti-American he is. Communism has been around here since it started but it was always an extremely small minority, mostly in the Universities. Unfortunately, our education system has done such a poor job of teaching our great American story that we have become susceptible to the dumbest of policies as long as they are presented by what otherwise appear to be intelligent people and supported by the MSM. Hence, we end up with someone who is totally anti-American and who is doing a pretty good job of bring us down.

It is surprising how many commies there are or how many 'useful idiots' there are that still support our own decline. </div></div>

llotter
09-14-2012, 12:07 PM
What is in question is his quote that he was born to a single mother which until he said it, nobody questioned.

(PS Single means unmarried)

eg8r
09-14-2012, 12:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The man's been in office for 3-1/2 years, and what should be obvious to all is that it is his record in that office that should determine whether he's rehired, or fired, from that office.</div></div>Actually according to Obama this is exactly what he doesn't want you to do.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
09-14-2012, 01:47 PM
He was born to a married mother and raised by a single mother, as all research proves.

It does not impact his citizenship, regardless.

You are spreading lies, and you have no proof whatsoever, none!

Only a terminally ignorant idiot would continue on this path of lies and slander.

G.

llotter
09-14-2012, 02:09 PM
Just raising an issue. It is not my lie, it is The Moron's lie. It might be innocuous but when you live a tangled web of lies, it is difficult to keep it all straight. Or he was merely enhancing is victim's resume to fit his audience, like he did with his literary bio. Hard to know what is the truth.

Gayle in MD
09-14-2012, 02:13 PM
Post proof or S *. *. Up!

G.

llotter
09-14-2012, 02:20 PM
i have posted it twice in this thread. He said, "Let's face it, a mixed kid from Hawaii born to a single mom is not likely to become President of the United States. But in America it can happen because of education, because somebody gave me opportunity."

The Moron said he was born to a single mother that doesn't fit his previous story which said his mother was married the prior February.

The quote comes from his own campaign site as shown above:

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/president-obama-in-golden-colorado

Soflasnapper
09-14-2012, 05:50 PM
You know, the spoken word is often mis-transcribed after being misheard.

He probably said something like '...a mixed kid from Hawaii born to a Sharia mom...'

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llotter
09-14-2012, 06:10 PM
It was his website it is no doubt available on video. It must be hard for a moron to keep his story straight. He has made many such 'misquotes' since the story was fabricated.

hondo
09-15-2012, 07:03 AM
"It isn't the election that motivates birthers and similar detractors, it is the belief that The Moron is a Marxist/commie/socialist and that he is hiding much of his past that the American people are entitled to know. I think most of us think that if the truth were known, he would be in jail for fraud."

And, never forget, HE'S BLACK!!!

My guess is that you have your "Don't Re-nege" sticker on the back of your pick-up. Am I right? Tell the truth.

LWW
09-15-2012, 07:57 AM
Have you ever added anything to a conversation?

Gayle in MD
09-15-2012, 08:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have posted it twice in this thread. He said, "Let's face it, a mixed kid from Hawaii born to a single mom is not likely to become President of the United States. But in America it can happen because of education, because somebody gave me opportunity."

The Moron said he was born to a single mother that doesn't fit his previous story which said his mother was married the prior February.

The quote comes from his own campaign site as shown above:

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/president-obama-in-golden-colorado

</div></div>

His father's name is on his birth certificate.

He was raised by a Mother who was single most of her life, but not at the time of his birth. His entire history has been documented by a highly respected author, and biographer, which includes all of his ancestors, and the entire history of all of his grandparents, and documents his girl friends, school mates, education, everything.

There is full and complete documention from the State Of Hawaii which proves that his mother was married to his father, and that he was born in Hawaii, and is and American citizen.

Your ridiculous "RUMORS" are gettng very old, and continue to be very offensive.

Either post documented proof for your evil, racist slander or S.T.*. UP!


Why not spend some of your time trying to dig up some lies and slander about a real Muslim, Grover Norquist's Muslim wife?



G.

hondo
09-15-2012, 08:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you ever added anything to a conversation? </div></div>

That was just precious!

eg8r
09-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Why are you such a race-baiter?

eg8r

hondo
09-15-2012, 10:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are you such a race-baiter?

eg8r </div></div>

Exhibit 107.

eg8r
09-17-2012, 08:22 AM
LOL, now you want the mod to take action because I pointed out you are trying to incite a race argument. You must really feel proud of yourself.

eg8r

hondo
09-17-2012, 11:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL, now you want the mod to take action because I pointed out you are trying to incite a race argument. You must really feel proud of yourself.

eg8r </div></div>

No, I want the mod to throw you off the forum for your vicious, hateful name-calling. But we both know I would get tossed for "causing trouble" before one of you right wingers wouild get tossed.
The language you use on here to describe your fellow souls from God disgusts me.

eg8r
09-17-2012, 01:28 PM
You were the one trying to incite a race argument that was never there. Why do you oppose me calling you out?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
09-17-2012, 02:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have posted it twice in this thread. He said, "Let's face it, a mixed kid from Hawaii born to a single mom is not likely to become President of the United States. But in America it can happen because of education, because somebody gave me opportunity."

The Moron said he was born to a single mother that doesn't fit his previous story which said his mother was married the prior February.

The quote comes from his own campaign site as shown above:

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/president-obama-in-golden-colorado

</div></div>


http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ObamaTh#

Here is the entire story of his life, including interviews with all of his living relatives, and numerous documentarians, from every single country where any of President Obama's relatives AND/OR ancestors, ever lived, all of his Mother's family history, and husbands and ancestors, as well.

It is a complete history of the president, his mothers' his granparents on both sides, the entire family, both sides... four years of research by the author, who traveled all over the world, spoke with over four hundred people, filmed all of it, and reported it in his book, by this author, David Maraniss, a Pulitzer Prize winning author, known for his exhaustive, thorough research.


Watch it all the way through, and then there will be absolutely NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD THESE LIES AND RUMORS ON THIS FORUM, OR ANYWHERE ELSE, ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT, EVER AGAIN!

G.

hondo
09-17-2012, 05:00 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You were the one trying to incite a race argument that was never there. Why do you oppose me calling you out?

eg8r </div></div>

If you are talking about the lotter post, I noticed you and not him cried foul.
I personally feel that most of the hate directed at Obama is because he's black.
Of course if Hillary won, lotter would be calling her the Bitch.
You guys are blind with hate, but you are the worst poster on here. You are the only one calling your fellow posters stupid idiots and dumb hillbilly hicks.
If we had an unbiased mod you would be gone for good.
Even on AZ you wouldn't last one day with all your personal insults.
I have no idea why you are the way you are but you are certainly a hateful, unpleasant individual.

llotter
09-17-2012, 07:48 PM
What the Maraniss book establishes are the dozens of lies on which The Moron fabricated his life story and sold to his adoring public. Lies, lies and more lies. It is no wonder he gets confused as to just where reality resides.

eg8r
09-17-2012, 09:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are talking about the lotter post, I noticed you and not him cried foul.</div></div>How does that detract from the fact that you were trying to incite a race argument?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course if Hillary won, lotter would be calling her the Bitch.</div></div>Would you argue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If we had an unbiased mod you would be gone for good.</div></div>Yeah and if you were a man of your word with even the smallest of balls you would be gone for good. Your word is worth nothing at this point because you have lied every time you promised to leave or shut up.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no idea why you are the way you are but you are certainly a hateful, unpleasant individual.</div></div>I surmise there is a lot more you don't know. The problem is that you aren't willing to shut the hole in your face to give your ears a chance to find out what they are missing.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
09-18-2012, 02:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What the Maraniss book establishes are the dozens of lies on which The Moron fabricated his life story and sold to his adoring public. Lies, lies and more lies. It is no wonder he gets confused as to just where reality resides. </div></div>

Don't change the subject.

Where is your proof that this President was not born in Hawaii?

Where is your proof that his mother was not married when he was born?

Where is your proof that he is not American?

Where is there any proof that he is a Muslim?

Basically, you have NO PROOF.

You have nothing but lies and rumors, which makes you irrelevant.

Mr. Moranniss stated himself, in the clip, that the president's mother, in an effort to bring him up with the best possible attitude toward his absent father, did not reveal EVERYTHING to him about his father. I myself, have come across this same phenomenon while talking to some of my older relatives. It's relly a European thing, IMO, that often older generations spruce up their family history, when talking with te next generation.

Now just admit that everything you post here about this whole birther BS, which you have done for years on this forum, you actually have never had any proof at all that any of it is anything but vicious rumors spread around by internet trolls, vicious RADICAL RW REPUBICAN LIARS!

Admit that every single respectable FACT CHECK SITE, confirms that president Obama was born in Hawaii, and is an AMERICAN CITIZEN! The President was raised Christian, and is still a Christian, ADMIT IT!

Admit it, prove otherwise, or drop it once and for all!

You won't post proof, because you can't, there is no proof for any of your lies.

G.

hondo
09-18-2012, 07:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are talking about the lotter post, I noticed you and not him cried foul.</div></div>How does that detract from the fact that you were trying to incite a race argument?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course if Hillary won, lotter would be calling her the Bitch.</div></div>Would you argue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If we had an unbiased mod you would be gone for good.</div></div>Yeah and if you were a man of your word with even the smallest of balls you would be gone for good. Your word is worth nothing at this point because you have lied every time you promised to leave or shut up.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no idea why you are the way you are but you are certainly a hateful, unpleasant individual.</div></div>I surmise there is a lot more you don't know. The problem is that you aren't willing to shut the hole in your face to give your ears a chance to find out what they are missing.

eg8r </div></div>

No, I wouldn't call her The Bitch.
I have never said I was leaving for good. That was Larry's bullshit.
You have already admitted you talk to your wife like you do me. We have established what kind of person you are.

Still, do you want me to leave, Eg? Say yes and if theothers agree, I'll leave.

hondo
09-18-2012, 07:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are talking about the lotter post, I noticed you and not him cried foul.</div></div>How does that detract from the fact that you were trying to incite a race argument?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course if Hillary won, lotter would be calling her the Bitch.</div></div>Would you argue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If we had an unbiased mod you would be gone for good.</div></div>Yeah and if you were a man of your word with even the smallest of balls you would be gone for good. Your word is worth nothing at this point because you have lied every time you promised to leave or shut up.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no idea why you are the way you are but you are certainly a hateful, unpleasant individual.</div></div>I surmise there is a lot more you don't know. The problem is that you aren't willing to shut the hole in your face to give your ears a chance to find out what they are missing.

eg8r </div></div>


No, I wouldn't call her The Bitch.
I have never said I was leaving for good. That was Larry's bullshit.
You have already admitted you talk to your wife like you do me. We have established what kind of person you are.

Still, do you want me to leave, Eg? Say yes and if the others agree, I'll leave.

eg8r
09-18-2012, 08:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have never said I was leaving for good. That was Larry's bullshit.</div></div>So now you are lying? Real man you are. You idolize Romney I see.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have already admitted you talk to your wife like you do me.</div></div>When did I say my wife acts like petulant brat like you? This is another great example of why the kids in West Virgina are better without your sorry butt in the front of the class. What a shame it was that you taught English all those years yet had such piss poor comprehension skills.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still, do you want me to leave, Eg? Say yes and if theothers agree, I'll leave.</div></div>You have already proven you don't have the balls to back up what you say. Why would anyone trust you now?

eg8r

hondo
09-18-2012, 08:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have never said I was leaving for good. That was Larry's bullshit.</div></div>So now you are lying? Real man you are. You idolize Romney I see.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have already admitted you talk to your wife like you do me.</div></div>When did I say my wife acts like petulant brat like you? This is another great example of why the kids in West Virgina are better without your sorry butt in the front of the class. What a shame it was that you taught English all those years yet had such piss poor comprehension skills.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still, do you want me to leave, Eg? Say yes and if theothers agree, I'll leave.</div></div>You have already proven you don't have the balls to back up what you say. Why would anyone trust you now?

eg8r </div></div>

I don't lie. And I am a real man. I don't hide behind a computer
and call people hillbilly hicks. You would never be man enough to say that to my face. I suspect if you ever accidently ran into me you would faint after all the hateful things you've said to me. Real men don't act like you, Eg. You will not find one post where I said I was leaving for good. Again, that was Larry's bullshit. And, no, I don't like Romney, let alone idolize him.

You all but said that you call your wife names. You never said you beat her but judging from your behavior on here you fit the profile. Most women beaters are cowards when it comes to dealing with men and you have proven that time and again.Plus, you've bullied Gayle and call her names constantly. I imagine your wife is scared to death of you.

Why do you need to trust me? What do you have to lose? I either leave or I don't leave. I have made the same offer to your hero many times but he would miss sparring with me so he doesn't take me up on my offer. If you want me to leave just say so. If the majority agree I'm gone. You say I'm the most insignificant poster on here so you should win easily, right?
If it doesn't work out for you, shut your gutter mouth. I'm tired of you constantly shadow posting me and showing your ass.

I'm on here to discuss the issues. Not have to constantly respond to your childish taunts. Grow up!

eg8r
09-19-2012, 07:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't lie. And I am a real man.</div></div>Now you are lying by saying you never lie.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You all but said that you call your wife names.</div></div>Actually I never said that.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do you need to trust me? What do you have to lose? I either leave or I don't leave. </div></div>Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. You have already proven you will not leave when you say you will. You have no credibility.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm on here to discuss the issues.</div></div>Yet another statement I deem a lie but could easily be disproven by you. Go take your last 100 posts and let's see how many of them had anything to do with the "issue" of the thread.

eg8r

hondo
09-19-2012, 08:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't lie. And I am a real man.</div></div>Now you are lying by saying you never lie.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You all but said that you call your wife names.</div></div>Actually I never said that.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do you need to trust me? What do you have to lose? I either leave or I don't leave. </div></div>Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. You have already proven you will not leave when you say you will. You have no credibility.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm on here to discuss the issues.</div></div>Yet another statement I deem a lie but could easily be disproven by you. Go take your last 100 posts and let's see how many of them had anything to do with the "issue" of the thread.

eg8r </div></div>

Exhibit 115.