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DiabloViejo
09-17-2012, 08:40 PM
<span style='font-size: 14pt'><span style="color: #000099">This is from last January, but it is still fresh and relevant. I present it to our resident haters for their consideration.</span></span>

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America</span>
MON JAN 09, 2012 AT 01:57 PM PST
Jesse LaGrecca
dailykos.com (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/09/1053088/-An-open-letter-to-the-people-who-hate-Obama-more-than-they-love-America)
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I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.

You like war. You like torture. You like Jesus. I don't know how in the hell any of that is compatible, but no one ever accused you haters of being over-committed to ideological consistency. You like people who look like you or at least hate most of the things that you hate. You hate everything else.

Now, I know you profess to love our country and the founding fathers (unless you are reminded that they believed in the separation of church and state), but I need to remind you that America is NOT what Fox News says it is. America is a melting pot, it always has been. We are a multi-cultural amalgamation of all kinds of people, and yet you still demonize everyone who is not a rich, white, heterosexual christian male or his submissive and obedient wife.

You hate liberals, moderates, hell, anyone who disagrees with Conservative dogma as espoused by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. You hate em.

Well, here are the facts, Jack. If you hate the Government then you are unqualified to manage it. If you hate gay people more than you love America than you should take your own advice and get the hell out. There are several countries that are openly hostile to gay people, but they are full of brown people and you don't like them much either from what I understand. It looks like you are screwed, but that's not what I am here to tell you.

Now that you have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Obama and it still hasn't worked you are panicking. Obama's approval ratings are still near 50% despite your best efforts to undermine the economy and America's recovery at every step you can. You tried to hold the American economy hostage to force America into default on its' debts, debts that YOU rang up under Bush, so you could blame it on Obama and it failed. You've used the filibuster more than any other Congress ever, going so far as to vote against providing health care access to 9/11 first responders. You remember 9/11, don't you, it's that thing you used to lie us into a war in Iraq, and then when Obama killed Bin Laden and ended the war in Iraq you told people that he hates America and wants the troops to fail. You monsters. You hate Obama with a passion, despite the fact that he is a tax cutting, deficit reducing war President who undermines civil rights and delivers corporate friendly watered down reforms that benefit special interests just like a Republican. You call him a Kenyan. You call him a socialist. You dance with your hatred singing it proudly in the rain like it was a 1950's musical.

Frankly, you disgust me. Your hatred nauseates me. Your bigotry offends me. Your racism revolts me.

Dear haters, I am openly questioning your patriotism.

I think you hate gays, Obama, black people, poor people, all of us, women, atheists and agnostics, Latinos, Muslims, Liberals, all of us, I think you hate every one who isn't exactly like you, and I think you hate us more than you love your country.

I think you hate gay soldiers more than you want America to win its wars.

I don't even think you want America to win wars, you just want America to have wars, never ending wars and the war profiteering it generates. You love that kind of spending, you love spending on faith based initiatives and abstinence based sex education (George Carlin would have loved that one), you love spending on subsidies for profitable oil corporations, you spend like drunken sailors when you are in the White House, but if it is a Democrat then suddenly you cheer when America doesn't get the Olympics because it might make the black President look bad. But oooh you love your country, you say, and you want it back. Well listen here skippy, it isn't your country, you don't own it, it is our country, and America is NOT the religiously extremist Foxbots who hate science, elitist professors and having a vibrant and meaningful sex life with someone we love if Rick Santorum doesn't approve of it. Rick Santorum isn't running for America's f***ing high school dance chaperone, he should probably just shut the hell up about sex, but he can't because he has nothing else to run on.

Republicans can NOT win on the issues. They've got NOTHING. All they have is a divide and conquer class war that pits ignorant racist and bigoted people against the rest of us in a meaningless battle of wedge issues and the already proven to fail George W. Bush agenda again of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, privatization and war profiteering and nothing else, so all they can do is blame black people, gays the government, anybody and everyone else for their own failings. The party of personal responsibility, my ass.

But they love multi-national corporations, just ask a gay hating and racist religious extremist if they think Corporations are people and they will gladly agree, but if you ask them if gay people are people they aren't so sure.

Dear haters, you are the cruel, heartless misinformed assholes who would sell America out to Haliburton in a heartbeat, you would rather pay ZERO taxes than you would see a newly born baby get access to quality health care, you cheer when we discuss denying health care to young people with preventable diseases, and you boo when we discuss the First Ladies plan to cut back on childhood obesity. You are a cross to carry and a flag to wrap yourself in away from being the people who Sinclair Lewis warned us about, but I guarantee that if Fox News told you to dress that way you would, because you are the same blind, ignorant and closed minded dunces who drove this country into a civil war years ago because you are bound to the notion that some men are more equal than others. In short, the reason I proudly wear my union army hat is because of seditious sell outs like you who constantly f**k over working class Americans so a foreign entrepreneur like Rupert Murdoch can get a bigger tax break. If corporations are people, they are neither American patriots nor capable of love. Just like you.

So stop wearing your hate with pride. Stop celebrating your anti-science, anti-math ignorance. Stop using code words to mask your bigotry like "family values", especially when you hate my family and when you stand on the same stage as a guy who has had three marriages or if you share a seat in the Senate with a guy who cheated on his wife with hookers while wearing diapers. You should be ashamed. I know that you are just doing this to motivate your misinformed hate cult base because if they actually knew that your ideas will make them poorer than they are now, they would never vote for you. You are doing your best to impoverish your countrymen so rich people can get bigger tax breaks and you can keep on delivering corporate welfare to the special interests who have bribed you, and I am disgusted by the way you gleefully parade your hatred with aplomb. I don't think you do love America. At least, not as much as you hate everyone in America who isn't exactly like you.

You should think about that, and maybe get some help.

And for the record, I do not hate you. I am embarrassed by you and nauseated by your cruel and thoughtless behavior and your all consuming greed, but I do not hate you. I forgive you and I hope you can change someday, but I don't hate you. You have enough hate in you for the rest of us as it is.

Gayle in MD
09-18-2012, 09:23 AM
Excellent Post, and spot on!

Obama-Biden 2012! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

llotter
09-18-2012, 01:48 PM
Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays.

DiabloViejo
09-18-2012, 10:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

Don't you just hate that?

hondo
09-19-2012, 09:03 AM
I have tried to see the right's point of view but their irrational logic is just incomprehensible.
Plus, look at the personality of Ed, Larry, Yugo, and lotter.
Would any decent person want to have a beer with that crowd?
Larry has a personality disorder, Ed is childish and immature and thinks it's cool to call people idiots. lotter thinks murderers are doing God's work.
I might consider Yugo. He's just a shit stirrer like Sev.
Problem is he believes all that tripe he posts. When confronted with the truth Yugo says " Pure comedy gold". Larry says " That was just precious." And Ed says " You stupid hillbilly hick idiot."
Nope. Not people I'd want to socialize with.

And I firmly believe that transported back in time Limberger, Beck , and Hannity would have no problem commandering Dachau.

hondo
09-19-2012, 09:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

"And for the record, I do not hate you. I am embarrassed by you and nauseated by your cruel and thoughtless behavior and your all consuming greed, but I do not hate you. I forgive you and I hope you can change someday, but I don't hate you. You have enough hate in you for the rest of us as it is,"

hondo
09-19-2012, 09:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

Don't you just hate that? </div></div>

ROTFLMFAO! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

LWW
09-19-2012, 09:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

Don't you just hate that? </div></div>

Actually Diablow hates much more than that.

hondo
09-19-2012, 09:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

Don't you just hate that? </div></div>

Actually Diablow hates much more than that. </div></div>

Let's take a vote. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

LWW
09-19-2012, 09:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

Don't you just hate that? </div></div>

Actually Diablow hates much more than that. </div></div>

Let's take a vote. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>

Much to your dismay, truth is not subject to opinion ... now, get back under your bridge.

hondo
09-19-2012, 09:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DiabloViejo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just as stupid in January as it today. It is embarrassing that any thinking American would be so gullible as to fall for such clap-trap. Without checking, I would guess that the author of such stupidity makes a handsome living off the victim cards he plays. </div></div>

Don't you just hate that? </div></div>

Actually Diablow hates much more than that. </div></div>

Let's take a vote. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>

now, get back under your bridge. </div></div>

Exhibit 115.

Gayle in MD
09-19-2012, 10:41 AM
With such brilliance and literary command of his subject, I'm sure he could buy and sell you several times over, at the least!

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llotter
09-20-2012, 11:55 AM
It is hard for me to identify with the concept of hate when ignorance is the enemy. What's to hate in the German soldier as he sends the Jews off to the concentration camps and death? They are just doing their job. What's to hate in Hitler or Stalin as he reigns death on millions when they are just doing what they believe are the best action to achieve their goals. Maybe the Devil himself is worth of hate but it is hard for me to hate those who fall into his grasp because it can happen so easily. Evil finds a home in the minds of many and they essentially lose control of their own self.

So, this author seems to so hateful and intolerant himself and must be so infected and doing the Devil's work.

Gayle in MD
09-20-2012, 12:04 PM
So the author rang a bell for ya, huh?

Activated your AUTOMATIC RW HATE RESPONSE? Automatically conjured up your sympathetic visions of all of the depots through history?

Far be it from me to lecture someone like YOU on hate.

You've got the whole Virginia franchise on hate!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> And for the record, I do not hate you. I am embarrassed by you and nauseated by your cruel and thoughtless behavior and your all consuming greed, but I do not hate you. I forgive you and I hope you can change someday, but I don't hate you. You have enough hate in you for the rest of us as it is. </div></div>

No one could improve on the author's perfectly stated summary of "You People" and your hate filled philosophies.

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llotter
09-20-2012, 12:10 PM
I just said that I don't hate people. I hate ignorance and that is why I post here. It is the ignorance that is targeting America and its traditions and freedom that motivate me.

Gayle in MD
09-20-2012, 12:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just said that I don't hate people. I hare ignorance and that is why I post here.
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LOL, you hare ignorance?

Hmmm, I thought you were a Squirrel, you know, as in NUTS!

Now I find out you're really a wabbit?

OMG! A wascally wabbit after all!

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<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Advcie For A Rabbit

Be a good listener.

Eat plenty of greens.

Let your dreams multiply.

Hop to it!

Know when to be still.

Spend time in nature.

Don't worry, be hoppy!

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</span>

llotter
09-20-2012, 12:34 PM
You are such a sweetie pie and that's why I love you so.

hondo
09-20-2012, 07:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is hard for me to identify with the concept of hate when ignorance is the enemy. What's to hate in the German soldier as he sends the Jews off to the concentration camps and death? They are just doing their job. What's to hate in Hitler or Stalin as he reigns death on millions when they are just doing what they believe are the best action to achieve their goals. Maybe the Devil himself is worth of hate but it is hard for me to hate those who fall into his grasp because it can happen so easily. Evil finds a home in the minds of many and they essentially lose control of their own self.

So, this author seems to so hateful and intolerant himself and must be so infected and doing the Devil's work. </div></div>

A noble speech but it smacks of bullshit.
The abortion doctor was doing what he thought was right yet you applaud his murderer and hail him as a hero.
The POTUS is trying to save a sinking ship destroyed by the Bush power mongers yet you sneer and call him the Moron.
Maybe you don't hate Hitler and Stalin for just doing what they believe is right but your contempt for those who don't follow your world view seems somewhat worse.
I certainly don't hate you and Eg and Larry but your smug arrogance and willingness to twist people's words to support your worldview make me believe that you are certainly not my kind of people.

hondo
09-20-2012, 07:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just said that I don't hate people. I hate ignorance and that is why I post here. It is the ignorance that is targeting America and its traditions and freedom that motivate me. </div></div>

And that is why I post here. I deplore the dumbing down of America while the Tea Party waves their little flags and belch that they want their country back.
While the talk radio Nazis spread their hate while sadly shaking their heads over what's happening to their country.
While the Roves and the limbergers and the Cheneys and the Romneys squeeze the poor working man dry and ensure that the rich and powerful have total control.
Is this the ignorance that is targeting America and its traditions and freedoms , lotter?
No, I didn't think you would believe that.
That is why I continue to post and endure Eg calling me a hillbilly idiot even though I'm far more educated than him and endure Larry's lies about my life.

hondo
09-20-2012, 07:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just said that I don't hate people. I hare ignorance and that is why I post here.
</div></div>


LOL, you hare ignorance?

Hmmm, I thought you were a Squirrel, you know, as in NUTS!

Now I find out you're really a wabbit?

OMG! A wascally wabbit after all!

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif


<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Advcie For A Rabbit

Be a good listener.

Eat plenty of greens.

Let your dreams multiply.

Hop to it!

Know when to be still.

Spend time in nature.

Don't worry, be hoppy!

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

</span> </div></div>

UnfortuNUTly, that's not all that rabbits multiply.
We've got our 3 amigos on here. We don't need more.

hondo
09-20-2012, 07:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are such a sweetie pie and that's why I love you so. </div></div>

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Even though you were being sarcastic, that's still a nice way to handle it.
See, Eg, you can get your point across without calling people idiots.