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Soflasnapper
09-27-2012, 09:23 AM
Video here. (http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/09/26/foxs-dobbs-romney-shouldnt-ask-are-you-better-o/190158)

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Any Damn Fool Knows In 2008 This Country Was In Crisis" </span>

Except some apparent fools here, he must mean. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Gayle in MD
09-27-2012, 09:58 AM
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eg8r
09-27-2012, 11:36 AM
LOL, more Americans out of jobs now than then, those that did find new jobs now work for much less. LOL, you know what else is funny, the lefty idiots on this board, and sofla you know I am talking about you, keep telling us that Obama was not even aware of the economic problems on the way. LOL, however Lou Dobbs did before anyone and is telling us that when Obama came to the WH we were already in a crisis. Haha, I love it when you step in your own crap.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
09-27-2012, 03:22 PM
Sad what you've descended to, then.

Listen, approximately four years ago to the day, key Congressional leaders were told on a late Thursday evening meeting with then-SecTreasury Hank Paulson that if they didn't pony up $750 billion dollars BY THE WEEKEND, by Monday there would be no economy. Banks would be shuttered, no one would have any money left, no ATM cash after the first runs, no food in the stores, there would be riots in the street, and martial law would have to be enforced nationally.

It was so dire that they had to rely on a two page document that specified no one could ask where Treasury would place this money, and no one could be held accountable for any reason as to where it went. No plan, just sight unseen, hand over 3/4 of a trillion dollars, or the economy gets it in the head, the next day or so.

And no, Lou Dobbs didn't have that information before Treasury, before Bush, or before Congress.

So all of Congress knew about the BANK CRISIS. What none of them knew, as the numbers weren't out, was how badly 3rd calendar quarter gdp numbers were. And how much worse they became in the 4th calendar quarter.

Before revision, the gdp down -0.5% (or was it up 0.5%? either way) in the 3rd quarter was still quite bad. That the 4th quarter first came in down -3.5% was an economic disaster. Obama knew those numbers, and realized he had a huge crisis on his hands.

What he didn't know was that it was four times worse than the preliminary numbers indicated. Dobbs also didn't know that ahead of anyone.

Now, in the current situation, do we need to instantly inject $750 billion dollars before the end of the week, with no strings attached, lest we have no financial system left in place? Dobbs is saying no we don't, so we are far better off now than then, UE higher notwithstanding.

eg8r
09-27-2012, 08:52 PM
Americans are NOT better off. Less are working, more have quit looking for work, those that have found jobs are working at McDonalds and now with less money and unstable working condition they will be forced to pony up for healthcare. They are worse off for sure.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
09-28-2012, 08:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sad what you've descended to, then.

Listen, approximately four years ago to the day, key Congressional leaders were told on a late Thursday evening meeting with then-SecTreasury Hank Paulson that if they didn't pony up $750 billion dollars BY THE WEEKEND, by Monday there would be no economy. Banks would be shuttered, no one would have any money left, no ATM cash after the first runs, no food in the stores, there would be riots in the street, and martial law would have to be enforced nationally.

It was so dire that they had to rely on a two page document that specified no one could ask where Treasury would place this money, and no one could be held accountable for any reason as to where it went. No plan, just sight unseen, hand over 3/4 of a trillion dollars, or the economy gets it in the head, the next day or so.

And no, Lou Dobbs didn't have that information before Treasury, before Bush, or before Congress.

So all of Congress knew about the BANK CRISIS. What none of them knew, as the numbers weren't out, was how badly 3rd calendar quarter gdp numbers were. And how much worse they became in the 4th calendar quarter.

Before revision, the gdp down -0.5% (or was it up 0.5%? either way) in the 3rd quarter was still quite bad. That the 4th quarter first came in down -3.5% was an economic disaster. Obama knew those numbers, and realized he had a huge crisis on his hands.

What he didn't know was that it was four times worse than the preliminary numbers indicated. Dobbs also didn't know that ahead of anyone.

Now, in the current situation, do we need to instantly inject $750 billion dollars before the end of the week, with no strings attached, lest we have no financial system left in place? Dobbs is saying no we don't, so we are far better off now than then, UE higher notwithstanding. </div></div>

Anyone who denies we are far better off now, than we were when this president was sworn in, has to be a total FOOL!



I can't wait for those big cuts in defense spending!

I know that one of the most hypocritical around here, who has constantly been sucking on Government's teat, while yapping and condemning other American workers, are finally going to get their comeupance!

Long past due, BTW.
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Soflasnapper
09-28-2012, 09:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Americans are NOT better off. Less are working, more have quit looking for work, those that have found jobs are working at McDonalds and now with less money and unstable working condition they will be forced to pony up for healthcare. They are worse off for sure.

eg8r </div></div>

Sez you. That's your protected opinion. Doesn't make it right.

In fact, opinions vary. Meaning, among the people.

Perhaps you've seen that polling? More say they are better off now than then, compared to worse off now than then. About a third say they are about the same as earlier. None of these positions has a majority responding that way, and they are all more in the 30%s range. But 'better off' is in the lead of the other two options, so the plurality of the people, more than the other options, chose 'better off now.'

Perhaps you think you know better than these people what their individual circumstances are, but we don't have to think you're right about that.

eg8r
09-28-2012, 10:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sez you. That's your protected opinion. Doesn't make it right...Perhaps you've seen that polling? </div></div>LOL, so when you ask a poor person how they are doing and they say, "Doing great, thanks for asking." Do you walk away and ignore the fact that clearly they have nothing, are hurting for everything, cannot afford the healthcare that is now forced on them all because they are an optimist?

It seems you don't really care about reality. If you had less now then before, it is harder to make ends meet now than before would you sit there and cry or would you make an attempt to hold your head high?

eg8r

Soflasnapper
09-29-2012, 02:27 PM
These polls, which seems clear now you haven't seen, do not go and poll poor people. They poll 'THE PEOPLE,' a representative survey of them, which will include some of the poor, and many who are not.

The mainly NOT poor who are polled (as that wouldn't be a representative sample) have a mixed view, roughly in 1/3rds each for the better off/worse off/about the same, except high enough among the better off (which polls higher than worse off) and about the same categories that together they add up to a majority.

So SURE, some people say they're worse off. But more say they are better off.

You claim they are mistaken? Or just that you don't believe the polling data?

I for one am far better off, although I don't think my experience is typical. How about yourself, personally?

Sid_Vicious
09-29-2012, 05:55 PM
Ed, you must really grow one brain cell Man. Your own guy Bush came on television in September '08 and said to the nation that we were going to lose the US economy as we know it if an instant action on the bail outs wasn't done. Can you possibly even try to conceive that, or are you wanting to defeat America? sid