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Soflasnapper
10-08-2012, 01:28 PM
Back in Reagan's day, the fact checkers as they existed then (not so much as now) repeatedly found that various remarks he made were not true. Trees cause most of the air pollution, for example

Reporters raised these question to the spokespersons, who admitted the stories from the Gipper were not true.

Then he'd repeat them anyway. Eventually, the reporters would stop complaining about the falsehoods, because it appeared to make no difference.

It's unclear when exactly Reagan began to lose his mind, but certainly nearly dying and having something like 10 units of blood for transfusion from nearly bleeding out didn't help his mental fitness.

Anyway, we now have a very alert Romney saying repeatedly that his repeal and replace Obamacare plan covers pre-existing conditions. He said it again in a very high profile venue, seen by 60 million Americans.

Once again, as before, his campaign 'corrected the record' and repeated their denial that his plan covers pre-existing conditions.

Surely Romney knows what his campaign does and says. They do so with his approval and permission, as they serve at his pleasure.

So he chose to blatantly lie about this AGAIN, for the nth time, but this time not to a small assemblage on the campaign trail, but to a majority of the interested American electorate.

He knows this lie will stick in their minds, and only a tiny fraction by comparison will ever hear of his own campaign explaining their boss told a lie.

Why? Because it is a good thing to cover pre-existing conditions, and a bad thing if his repeal idea doesn't cover them. Maybe there's a good reason we shouldn't and maybe Romney's plan is really better (not), but he should make that case and not lie about his plan.

Instead, he just puts that lie out there to confuse and mislead those viewing the debate.

Shameful, and disqualifying. There's your Myth Romney for you.

What ELSE is he lying about? That his unicorn tax plan (rumored, but never proven) is revenue neutral would be an excellent guess.

eg8r
10-08-2012, 02:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He knows this lie will stick in their minds</div></div>No different than Obama stumping that he will halve the debt, help the latinos, etc over and over knowing full well he cannot do those things.

eg8r

LWW
10-08-2012, 03:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The world's trees, shrubs and other plants do produce massive amounts of hydrocarbons - nine times as much as do automobiles, by some counts. ...

A forest of 10,000 of the trees emits perhaps 22 pounds of hydrocarbons an hour - the equivalent of spilling a dozen gallons of gasoline and allowing it to evaporate, according to an estimate by the University of California Cooperative Extension. ...

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According to the reich wing CBS NEWS. (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-544188.html)

Soflasnapper
10-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Yes, but he was still wrong. As your source says:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reagan was lampooned by Democrats in 1980 for having claimed that 80 percent of air pollution was caused by plants and trees. Reagan aides later said the then-presidential candidate had been misquoted and was referring only to certain types of pollutants, not to all air pollution. </div></div>

Many of his errors involved taking heavily qualified statements that as caveated were technically true, but when the qualifying modifiers were left off in his retelling, just flat out false.

This was one of those times. He typically got the original from unknown reading sources years before, including the Reader's Digest.

Having nothing in particular to do with how Romney repeats falsehoods his own campaign has already admitted are false, which makes them now LIES (if it were ever in doubt in the first place).

Either he is a sharp guy as he appears, and thus is lying, or he has undisclosed memory problems. As his wife explained, her main worry is his mental health. (???)

Soflasnapper
10-08-2012, 05:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He knows this lie will stick in their minds</div></div>No different than Obama stumping that he will halve the debt, help the latinos, etc over and over knowing full well he cannot do those things.

eg8r </div></div>

It is quite different, except for things of that kind Obama may have said in national debates or maybe, national addresses.

60 million heard Romney's lie, and that was by his strategy.

To be so holier than thou and a BISHOP of his church, and lie to 60 million people bespeaks evil in his heart, more so than average politicians' lies.

Covering pre-existing conditions is important to many people. Romney will not get that done, and those people have every reason to think he will get it done based on the lies he has repeatedly told about this.

No possible alibi. No possible explanation except very bad character. Very bad character hidden behind a facade of piety sounds satanic to me.