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LWW
10-30-2012, 03:42 AM
Let's see how the left spins this one. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/world/middleeast/no-specific-warnings-in-benghazi-attack.html)

Soflasnapper
10-30-2012, 08:51 AM
The 'non-specific' warnings lead to this reporting, from your piece:

Interviews with American officials and an examination of State Department documents do not reveal the kind of smoking gun Republicans have suggested would emerge in the attack’s aftermath such as a warning that the diplomatic compound would be targeted and that was overlooked by administration officials.

No spin is required. Facts do just fine here.

LWW
10-30-2012, 09:42 AM
I agree completely.

This was posted in response to eleven years of "BUSH KNEW!" based on nonspecific warnings.

If the cabal had any interest in judging by a single standard, they would be all over this.

Soflasnapper
10-30-2012, 11:55 AM
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/80601pdb2.jpg

Hijacking airplanes. What if any guidance did the FAA receive from the administration? What if anything was done about the surveiled federal buildings in NYC? (That would include WTC 7, as it housed a half dozen or more federal agencies.)

LWW
10-30-2012, 12:13 PM
Thanks for having my back.

eg8r
10-30-2012, 01:24 PM
The left keep acting like Bush knew there was going to be a definite attack and he knew the date and airline and chose to do nothing. This is BS and they know it but then again they believe if they continue to tell the lie sooner or later the 47% will believe it.

eg8r

LWW
10-30-2012, 02:14 PM
Do you honestly think nobody had ever imagined a US airliner being hijacked before?

Would you like to discuss why the twentieth hijacker's laptop wasn't inspected?

Perhaps you will explain why the left blames Bush fr not using power he didn't legally have at the time to onduct such a search ... followed by blaming him fr actully using said power once he did legally have it?

Soflasnapper
10-30-2012, 03:33 PM
They PRACTICED drills involving hijacked planes, and were executing one that day. Making the claim of W and Rice quite the lie, or making them wholly uninformed.

The 19th hijacker, I believe it was, didn't have his laptop inspected because the FBI supervisor of the field agents declined to submit a FISA warrant request, both initially, and after INTERPOL or French intelligence had tied him to terror groups. That led the field agents to morbidly joke the FBI had an al-qaeda mole protecting them, and also led to that man receiving a promotion and a presidential award involving a substantial amount of money.

LWW
10-30-2012, 05:33 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They PRACTICED drills involving hijacked planes, and were executing one that day.

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MYTH BUSTED (http://www.911myths.com/index.php/War_Games)

LWW
10-30-2012, 05:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The 19th hijacker, I believe it was, didn't have his laptop inspected because the FBI supervisor of the field agents declined to submit a FISA warrant request, both initially, and after INTERPOL or French intelligence had tied him to terror groups. That led the field agents to morbidly joke the FBI had an al-qaeda mole protecting them, and also led to that man receiving a promotion and a presidential award involving a substantial amount of money.

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MYTH BUSTED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui)

Soflasnapper
10-30-2012, 06:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They PRACTICED drills involving hijacked planes, and were executing one that day.

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MYTH BUSTED (http://www.911myths.com/index.php/War_Games) </div></div>

The point of your unsourced source isn't that drills involving simulated hijackings didn't occur. It admits they had, and were scheduled. If perhaps they weren't running that day (hard to say, as even the 9/11 Co-Chairs were of the opinion that they had been obviously lied to by NORAD and considered perjury referrals to DOJ), they had run them, and had scheduled them for the future (at worst).

I doubt the standard operating procedure involved untimely scrambles and no in-flight intercepts, as occurred that day.

Soflasnapper
10-30-2012, 06:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The 19th hijacker, I believe it was, didn't have his laptop inspected because the FBI supervisor of the field agents declined to submit a FISA warrant request, both initially, and after INTERPOL or French intelligence had tied him to terror groups. That led the field agents to morbidly joke the FBI had an al-qaeda mole protecting them, and also led to that man receiving a promotion and a presidential award involving a substantial amount of money.

</div></div>

MYTH BUSTED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui) </div></div>

I'll admit I thought the 20th was the 19th, although that's not much of a myth-- that's a mistaken memory, and sorry.

However, it's quite clear that the FBI could have sought a FISA warrant, was being urged to do so by Rowley et al., and declined to apply for one. Once those field agents got CIA tip off as to the tieing of that man to foreign terror outfits from foreign friendly's intel, they once again strenuously pushed for the FISA warrant application to be made. They were instead reprimanded for going outside of channels.

LWW
10-30-2012, 06:43 PM
Your specific claim was that one was running that day.

LWW
10-30-2012, 06:47 PM
It was not ithin FISA powers.

So, again, why o you blame Bush for not using pwer that he didn't have nd t the same time blame him for using that very same power once he did have it?

Soflasnapper
11-01-2012, 11:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your specific claim was that one was running that day. </div></div>

Yes, it was, and I still think that is so, contrary to your unsourced source's claims.

However, that's a bit beside the point. If they had done hijacking drills before (and they had), and had hijacking drills scheduled later (and they did), it's abundantly clear that such matters had indeed been thought of prior to the events of those days.

The military had run many such drills in the Clinton terms, and that institutional memory did not go away as of the end of his second term.

Soflasnapper
11-01-2012, 11:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was not ithin FISA powers.

So, again, why o you blame Bush for not using pwer that he didn't have nd t the same time blame him for using that very same power once he did have it? </div></div>

The field agent Rowley was herself a lawyer, familiar with the law, and she disagreed. Had it been not allowed by FISA, the FISA judge would have turned the requested search warrant down, had he/she been petitioned to grant the warrant.

But the request was not put forward, which was the complaint of Rowley.

She especially was upset that AFTER that guy had been tied to foreign terror groups by foreign intel, providing a far clearer basis for a FISA court to allow the warrant, it was still not sought by her superior.