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LWW
11-03-2012, 01:51 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> FEMA's vaunted "lean forward" strategy that called for advanced staging of supplies for emergency distribution failed to live up to its billing in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Sandy.

In fact, the agency appears to have been completely unprepared to distribute bottled water to Hurricane Sandy victims when the storm hit this Monday. In contrast to its stated policy, FEMA failed to have any meaningful supplies of bottled water -- or any other supplies, for that matter -- stored in nearby facilities as it had proclaimed it would on its website. This was the case despite several days advance warning of the impending storm.</div></div>

FEMA RUNS OUT OF WATER (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/FEMA-Still-Doesn-t-Have-Bottled-Water-to-Distribute-Finally-Places-Large-Order-Today-for-Delivery-Monday)

LWW
11-03-2012, 01:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Ever since Sandy strafed the Queens peninsula and tore up the boardwalk, itís become an often lawless place where cops are even scarcer than electrical power and food. Locals say they are arming themselves with guns, baseball bats, booby traps ó even a bow and arrow ó to defend against looters.

Thugs have been masquerading as Long Island Power Authority (LIPA) workers, knocking on doors in the dead of night. But locals say the real workers have been nowhere in sight, causing at least one elected official ó who fears a descent into anarchy if help doesnít arrive soon ó to call for the city to investigate the utility.</div></div>

ANARCHY IN QUEENS (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/events)

LWW
11-03-2012, 01:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Power was restored to lower Manhattan and some other areas overnight and Saturday, but it was still lights out for 2.5 million homes and businesses as temperatures were dipping into the 20s in communities like hard-hit Rockaway and the entire region braced itself for a potential nor'easter on Wednesday and Thursday, NBC News reported. "If the storm tracks close enough to the coast," it added," it appears the airmass may be sufficiently cold for snow to fall, even in the lower elevations," the National Weather Service's prediction center said in a Saturday morning update. </div></div>

One percenters get power restored ... proles get nothing. (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/#Electricity-Slowly-Returns-in-NY,-Millions-Still-without-Power)

LWW
11-03-2012, 01:58 PM
Day five ... and the same people who crucified Bush over Katrina remain obediently silent.

LWW
11-03-2012, 05:25 PM
Crickets from the cabal again.

When given the chance to do the right thing, they ever ail to disappoint.

Soflasnapper
11-03-2012, 06:06 PM
Quote:
Ever since Sandy strafed the Queens peninsula and tore up the boardwalk, itís become an often lawless place where cops are even scarcer than electrical power and food. Locals say they are arming themselves with guns, baseball bats, booby traps ó even a bow and arrow ó to defend against looters.

ANARCHY IN QUEENS

With some 35,000 NYPD personnel, and the governor's ability to call out the NY National Guard, the security of the city is not among the POTUS's responsibilities, or FEMA's. His only method to insert himself into that role would be to federalize the NY National Guard. At which point you'd call him a tyrannical thug, admit it.

The POTUS should wait until the mayor or governor request he do that, not pre-empt their responsibility if they don't see the need. So, have either Bloomberg or Cuomo asked for that step to be taken? If not, how do you suppose any president should react?

Soflasnapper
11-03-2012, 06:09 PM
One percenters get power restored ... proles get nothing.

Another example of an area of action that the POTUS and FEMA aren't responsible for. Bottom of the barrel scraping with these examples.

It's the city and the utility companies. Now tell me you think the POTUS should big foot in and dictatorially determine all of these logistics and triage efforts. Explain your position.

LWW
11-03-2012, 06:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Quote:
Ever since Sandy strafed the Queens peninsula and tore up the boardwalk, itís become an often lawless place where cops are even scarcer than electrical power and food. Locals say they are arming themselves with guns, baseball bats, booby traps ó even a bow and arrow ó to defend against looters.

ANARCHY IN QUEENS

With some 35,000 NYPD personnel, and the governor's ability to call out the NY National Guard, the security of the city is not among the POTUS's responsibilities, or FEMA's. His only method to insert himself into that role would be to federalize the NY National Guard. At which point you'd call him a tyrannical thug, admit it.

The POTUS should wait until the mayor or governor request he do that, not pre-empt their responsibility if they don't see the need. So, have either Bloomberg or Cuomo asked for that step to be taken? If not, how do you suppose any president should react? </div></div>

Sorry ... but the NOPD fled the area and the gubner refused to all out the NG, yet the left blaed Bush for the lack of security.

Just fess up ... you can't judge things by a single standard.

LWW
11-03-2012, 06:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One percenters get power restored ... proles get nothing.

Another example of an area of action that the POTUS and FEMA aren't responsible for. Bottom of the barrel scraping with these examples.

It's the city and the utility companies. Now tell me you think the POTUS should big foot in and dictatorially determine all of these logistics and triage efforts. Explain your position. </div></div>

Sorry ... the left blamed Bush for not restoring utilities by day five.

Try as you might to hide your hyperpartisanship ... you can't.

Soflasnapper
11-03-2012, 06:45 PM
Sorry ... but the NOPD fled the area and the gubner refused to all out the NG, yet the left blaed Bush for the lack of security.

Just fess up ... you can't judge things by a single standard.

You can say anything at this remove from those events. 'The LEFT???' Name one.

But some things are clear. The governor had 11,000 National Guardsman, less about 3,000 that were in Iraq (so, 8,000). She asked for 40,000 additional Guardsman from the rest of the country, and approx. that number were sent. She did not refuse to call out the NG, that's quite an idiotic statement. She refused to let Bush federalize them, as they then would have been unable to enforce LA state laws such as the laws against looting, because of the Posse Comitatus Law, which prohibits federal troops from law enforcement.

What the 'left' or anyone with sense blamed the Bush administration for were things like this:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a September 26, 2005 hearing, former FEMA chief Michael Brown testified before a U.S. House subcommittee about FEMA's response. During that hearing, Representative Stephen Buyer (R-IN) inquired as to why President Bush's declaration of state of emergency of August 27 had not included the coastal parishes of Orleans, Jefferson, and Plaquemines.[20] (In fact, the declaration did not include any of Louisiana's coastal parishes, whereas the coastal counties were included in the declarations for Mississippi[21] and Alabama.[22]) Brown testified that this was because Louisiana Governor Blanco had not included those parishes in her initial request for aid, a decision that he found "shocking." After the hearing, Blanco released a copy of her letter, which showed she had requested assistance for "all the southeastern parishes including the City of New Orleans" as well specifically naming 14 parishes including Jefferson, Orleans and Plaquemines.[23] </div></div>

Soflasnapper
11-03-2012, 06:46 PM
Sorry ... the left blamed Bush for not restoring utilities by day five.

Utilities? Electricity and water service? No they didn't. That's an insane claim. Who is your mythical 'left' to whom you refer?

LWW
11-03-2012, 07:18 PM
Oh please ... Bush was even blamed for bombing the levees.

Qtec
11-04-2012, 08:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <u>Brown testified</u> that this was because Louisiana Governor Blanco had <u>not included</u> those parishes in her initial request for aid,<u> a decision that he found "shocking.</u>" After the hearing, Blanco released a copy of her letter, which showed <u>she had requested assistance for "all the southeastern parishes including the City of New Orleans" as well specifically naming 14 parishes including Jefferson, Orleans and Plaquemines.</u></div></div>

So Brown was flat out lying?

Q

Flashback.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>'Can I quit now?'</span> FEMA chief wrote as Katrina raged
E-mails give insight into Brown's leadership, attitude

Brown took over FEMA in 2003 with little experience in emergency management. He joined the agency in 2001 as legal counsel to his friend, then-FEMA director Joe Allbaugh, who was Bush's 2000 campaign manager. When Allbaugh left FEMA in 2003 Brown assumed the top job.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Before joining the Bush administration, Brown spent a decade as the <u>stewards and judges commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association.</u></span>

The e-mails Melancon posted, a sampling of more than 1,000 provided to the House committee now assessing responses to Katrina by all levels of government, also show Brown making flippant remarks about his responsibilities. (Read how office e-mails can come back to haunt)

"Can I quit now? Can I come home?" Brown wrote to Cindy Taylor, FEMA's deputy director of public affairs, the morning of the hurricane.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>A few days later, Brown wrote to an acquaintance, "I'm trapped now, please rescue me."</span>

"In the midst of the overwhelming damage caused by the hurricane and enormous problems faced by FEMA, Mr. Brown found time to exchange e-mails about superfluous topics," including "problems finding a dog-sitter," Melancon said.

Melancon said that on August 26, just days before Katrina made landfall, Brown e-mailed his press secretary, Sharon Worthy, about his attire, asking: <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Tie or not for tonight? Button-down blue shirt?"</span>

A few days later, Worthy advised Brown: "Please roll up the sleeves of your shirt, all shirts. Even the president rolled his sleeves to just below the elbow. In this [crisis] and on TV <span style='font-size: 14pt'>you just need to look more hard-working."</span>

On August 29, the day of the storm, Brown exchanged e-mails about his attire with Taylor, Melancon said. She told him, "You look fabulous," and Brown replied, "I got it at Nordstroms. ... <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Are you proud of me?</span>" </div></div>


link (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/11/03/brown.fema.emails/)

Did Bush get ANYTHING right?



Q

LWW
11-04-2012, 08:30 AM
D-E-F-L-E-C-T-I-O-N-!

But ... you already knew that.

LWW
11-04-2012, 08:46 AM
AIR AMERICA (http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/16/11533.shtml) defends those who say Bush bombed the levees in Nawlins.

LWW
11-04-2012, 08:49 AM
KANYE WEST (http://www.elyrics.net/read/k/k,,otix-lyrics/george-bush-doesn_t-care-about-black-people-lyrics.html) put to song that Bush left blacks to die in Nawlins, after day five.

We are now into day seven.

Let the hypocrisy roll.

LWW
11-04-2012, 08:52 AM
THE MOONBAT CRAZY LEFT (http://www.ecoenquirer.com/Bush-jets-and-Katrina.htm) reported that Bush used jets to influence the strength and direction of Katrina.

LWW
11-04-2012, 08:53 AM
HILLARY CLINTON (http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/4/20/131725.shtml) blames Bush for causing Katrina.

LWW
11-04-2012, 08:57 AM
CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS MEMBER (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=142) claims Bush decided to save whites and leave blacks to die.

LWW
11-04-2012, 09:01 AM
CBS (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=142) reports that Bush left people without food and water for four days because they were black ... we are into day seven under Obama.

Is there not a single leftist who will apply judgement by a single standard?

Soflasnapper
11-04-2012, 10:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> AIR AMERICA (http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/16/11533.shtml) defends those who say Bush bombed the levees in Nawlins. </div></div>

Not Air America, but one of the then-hosts.

It's about what I thought. This was not particularly championed by white people on the left, or perhaps at all. Chuck D isn't white, Dick Gregory isn't white, and the left is predominantly white, as was Air America. Maybe Mike Malloy said he believed it as the one exception, and I don't remember his position.

And to try to get a little accuracy here, the story was not that they thought the levee or levees were bombed. The story was that the steel used for the diversion waterway connecting loop, not the levees, was breached with explosives.

Soflasnapper
11-04-2012, 10:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> CBS (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=142) reports that Bush left people without food and water for four days because they were black ... we are into day seven under Obama.

Is there not a single leftist who will apply judgement by a single standard? </div></div>

The single standard that should be used is correctly reporting what your sources say. CBS does not report what you said. It reports others saying that. It includes the correction that most of the victims were white.

LWW
11-04-2012, 11:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> CBS (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=142) reports that Bush left people without food and water for four days because they were black ... we are into day seven under Obama.

Is there not a single leftist who will apply judgement by a single standard? </div></div>

The single standard that should be used is correctly reporting what your sources say. CBS does not report what you said. It reports others saying that. It includes the correction that most of the victims were white. </div></div>

Have you no intellectual integrity at all?

Virtually everything on the news is the news source citing someone.

They dignified this moonbattery by broadcasting it.

Soflasnapper
11-04-2012, 12:10 PM
When a news source quotes someone, in their words, or runs a clip of someone saying something, that is not the news source saying it.

Whether they endorse it or not is only clear from the rest of the context. Fox may broadcast this or that Democrat, but that hardly means they endorse what is said or agree with it.

In the case you linked to, I saw a print report not a broadcast report, and in the same piece, a pushback on the quoted remarks, that in fact, more whites were dead and harmed than blacks.

Please do not play your intellectual integrity card any longer. It is now nearly entirely covered by your own excrement, and quite stinky!

LWW
11-04-2012, 12:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> AIR AMERICA (http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/16/11533.shtml) defends those who say Bush bombed the levees in Nawlins. </div></div>

Not Air America, but one of the then-hosts.

It's about what I thought. This was not particularly championed by white people on the left, or perhaps at all. Chuck D isn't white, Dick Gregory isn't white, and the left is predominantly white, as was Air America. Maybe Mike Malloy said he believed it as the one exception, and I don't remember his position.

And to try to get a little accuracy here, the story was not that they thought the levee or levees were bombed. The story was that the steel used for the diversion waterway connecting loop, not the levees, was breached with explosives. </div></div>

Actually it was more than one of the hosts appearing on MSLSD ... with Rachel Madcow giving them cover.

Soflasnapper
11-04-2012, 12:54 PM
Neither Chuck D nor Rachel Maddow endorsed that claim. Rather, they suggested they understood why it would be believed by those expressing it.

Besides that, assuming the Big E (whatever that steel plate-lined artificial channel was called) was bombed does not mean 'Bush' bombed it.

It still leaves the question as to how recently repaired steel plates could fail, and what exactly was the great explosion sound heard by locals due to.

LWW
11-05-2012, 06:19 AM
DAY EIGHT: (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/the_marines_have_landed_ClmNWXOqmaGYS967gz5YcJ) The regime finally begins an effort to restore law and order.

LWW
11-05-2012, 06:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Neither Chuck D nor Rachel Maddow endorsed that claim. Rather, they suggested they understood why it would be believed by those expressing it.

Besides that, assuming the Big E (whatever that steel plate-lined artificial channel was called) was bombed does not mean 'Bush' bombed it.

It still leaves the question as to how recently repaired steel plates could fail, and what exactly was the great explosion sound heard by locals due to. </div></div>

She defended the mentality behind it, just as you are.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After failing to persuade Chuck D., the MSNBC host turned to panelist Rachel Maddow, who also hosts a show on Air America.

Asked if she believed that white people deliberately destroyed the levees, Maddow declined to render a personal judgment - and instead defended the sentiment behind the toxic hypothesis. </div></div>

Qtec
11-05-2012, 06:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">D-E-F-L-E-C-T-I-O-N-!

But ... you already knew that. </div></div>

Not deflection, you brought it up!

Again.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So Brown was <span style='font-size: 20pt'>flat out lying?</span>

Q </div></div>

A simple Yes or No would suffice.

Q

Qtec
11-05-2012, 06:42 AM
STRAWMAN. DEFLECTION.

Nobody here is saying Bush blew up the levees <u>in this thread</u>.

Was Brown lying? Answer the Q.

Q

Qtec
11-05-2012, 06:48 AM
This is how dumb you really are.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><u>She defended the mentality behind it</u>, just as you are. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Neither Chuck D nor Rachel Maddow endorsed that claim. </div></div>

Do you understand English?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Asked if she believed that white people deliberately destroyed the levees,<u> Maddow declined to render a personal judgment </u></div></div>

Do you know what NO COMMENT means?

Also, do you know what a LINK is?

Q

LWW
11-05-2012, 08:55 AM
Yes ... and if you would have read my link you would have a clue.

eg8r
11-05-2012, 12:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you no intellectual integrity at all?

Virtually everything on the news is the news source citing someone.</div></div>LOL, I know I have been away but it was quite hilarious to see sofla take that defense. Absolutely hilarious.

eg8r

LWW
11-05-2012, 03:36 PM
He is getting quite desperate.

Soflasnapper
11-05-2012, 06:00 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> DAY EIGHT: (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/the_marines_have_landed_ClmNWXOqmaGYS967gz5YcJ) The regime finally begins an effort to restore law and order. </div></div>

Can you be more wrong?

The marines are not providing security arrangements. They cannot do civil law enforcement, because of the Posse Comitatus Act, as I've previously mentioned.

They have crack SURVEYORS, not crack SNIPERS, with them.

Soflasnapper
11-05-2012, 06:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He is getting quite desperate. </div></div>

Not as desperate as your claim that when Fox News shows a clip of an Obama speech, that indicates they agree with it.

What, you didn't claim that? What's the difference between the above and what you did claim?