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Gayle in MD
11-14-2012, 10:00 AM
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>POLITICAL COLUMN

Gen. David Petraeus is dumb, she’s dumber</span>
By ROGER SIMON | 11/13/12 4:23 AM EST

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David Petraeus never should have resigned as director of the Central Intelligence Agency because he was involved in a sex scandal.

Petraeus should have resigned because if he were any more dimwitted, you would have had to water him.

I know this is not what we have been told for years about Petraeus. I know we have been told he is some kind of towering genius: West Point grad, Princeton Ph.D., four-star general. But add one other quality: blockhead.

No, not because he committed adultery. Adultery is commonplace in our society. It may someday be mandatory.

And his paramour was perfect for him. Paula Broadwell — a name, as someone said, that could have come from a James Bond novel — is also a West Point grad, has a master’s degree from Harvard and is a fitness freak with biceps that could crush walnuts.

Oh, yeah, one more thing: She is as smart as a bag of hammers.

Leaving aside the sordid, yet fascinating, details — as CIA director, Petraeus demanded fresh pineapple be placed by his bedside every night — here is what did in these two soaring intellects:

Petraeus sends Broadwell sexually explicit messages through his Gmail account, messages so explicit that they leave no doubt in the minds of FBI investigators that the two are having an affair.

Got that? The head of the Central Intelligence Agency thinks Gmail accounts are secure and untraceable. What, he couldn’t have checked with a tech-savvy 12-year-old first? (Which is about every 12-year-old in America.)

Still, Petraeus might have skated, kept the affair private, gone on to a life of running clandestine operations for his country during the day and consuming tropical fruits at night.

But no, Paula Broadwell sends a series of allegedly threatening messages to a woman she thinks might be a rival for Petraeus’s affections. These messages apparently are so aggressive that the woman goes to the FBI. Oh, yeah, I am forgetting one thing: Broadwell sends these messages from an email account she shares with her husband.

Wow. I am surprised the spy master and his Harvard-educated girlfriend didn’t decide to conduct their affair by Podcast.

And just to add to the general weirdness of the story, the Wall Street Journal reported Monday evening that an FBI agent involved in the case is under investigation for allegedly sending shirtless photos of himself to the woman Broadwell was allegedly harassing. But this is collateral damage.

Some see the main story as involving two brilliant people brought low by true love. I don’t see it that way. Petraeus and Broadwell are not Abelard and Heloise. They are more like Dumb and Dumber.

When Bill Clinton was caught in a sex scandal, he acted sensibly: He lied through his teeth until they came up with the DNA.

Not Petraeus. He folded immediately when confronted by the FBI and admitted everything. Still, Petraeus did not have to resign. The FBI determined he did not breach any security, nor had he committed any crime. Clinton gutted it out, and today is one of the most popular figures in the world.



But fooling around always had been part of Clinton’s good ole boy image. Not Petraeus. His image was so straitlaced that it was almost sexless. “I spent a lot of time with him, and I never heard him say, ‘Wow, she was hot,’” one former aide told The Washington Post. “I never recalled hearing him say anything crass or even mentioning the good looks of a person.”

That was not the Petraeus way. He was intent on building his image and (mainly) seducing people who could help him climb to the top.



John McCain was dazzled by him. On a small plane from Cedar Rapids to Davenport, Iowa, in February 2007, I taped an interview with McCain that included the following exchange:

McCain: By the way, did you have a chance to see Petraeus in action? He’s very good.

Very impressive. Most impressive guy I’ve met, seen in action in a long time.

Me: What do you mean by action?

McCain: Testifying, talking, interfacing.

Me: What is it that he's got?

McCain: Charisma, a lot of charisma.

Me: Obviously, charisma alone is not enough to make a difference [in Iraq].

McCain: One thing he did was he had a bag of money, and he would go around and say, “OK, build this irrigation ditch, buy yourself a generator.”

This impressed me. Having started out as a columnist in Chicago, I knew the value of carrying around bags of money with which to dispense favors. But I was never convinced Petraeus was the savior of Iraq or of Afghanistan. (Have we saved either country?)

But many influential people were impressed by him and now blame Broadwell for seducing Petraeus and bringing him down.

Google the name “Paula Broadwell” — and I know you probably already have — and you find headlines like “Broadwell Depicted as Aggressive and Unhinged” with a link to a New York magazine column that appears with the more demure headline: “Paula Broadwell Depicted as Ambitious and Inappropriate.”

Most of her inappropriate behavior in public seems to have involved clothing. She wore “tight shirts and pants” in Afghanistan, according to The Washington Post, “where Western-style attire can offend local sensibilities.”

Big deal. I say if we’re going to spend $1.7 trillion, nearly 20,000 casualties and 12 years conquering a country, we get to wear what we want and the locals get to wear what they want.

More ominously, however, the Post reported that once back in the United States, Broadwell helped Petraeus “pick out a wardrobe of tailored suits he would wear at the CIA.”

Ladies, here is a tip: If a buff, beautiful, younger woman helps your husband pick out his clothes, they are probably doing it.

But now the shopping trips are over. And the blazing star that could have landed David Petraeus in the White House has now landed him in the soup.

A tragedy, his friends and acolytes, say. An American tragedy.

Me, I don’t see that.

“Tragedy requires unmerited suffering,” historian David Goldfield has written.

If you deserve the suffering, it isn’t tragedy. It’s justice.



Roger Simon is POLITICO’s chief political columnist.</span>Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83733_Page2.html#ixzz2CDH66EzM

Gayle in MD
11-14-2012, 10:40 AM
David Petraeus affair: Florida twins courted generals and racked up millions in debt
Twin Florida socialites Jill Kelley and Natalie Khawam have emerged at the centre of the David Petraeus affair. Jon Swaine investigates their high-rolling lifestyles and access to America's elite.

Twin Florida socialites who are at the centre of the David Petraeus affair gained intimate access to America's military and political elite through their high-rolling lifestyles even as they quietly racked up millions of dollars in debts and credit card bills.

Jill Kelley, whose complaint over threatening emails prompted the FBI inquiry that has ensnared two top generals, is mired in lawsuits from a string of banks totalling $4 million (£2.5 million), court filings obtained by The Daily Telegraph in Florida show.

Meanwhile Mrs Kelley's identical twin Natalie Khawam – who obtained testimonies to her good character from both Gen Petraeus and Gen John Allen during her own separate legal battle – declared herself bankrupt earlier this year with liabilities of $3.6 million, filings show.

The 37-year-old sisters have emerged as central players in the saga gripping Washington's national security establishment since Mrs Kelley was named as the "second woman" allegedly harassed by jealous emails from Paula Broadwell, Gen Petraeus's biographer and mistress.



They also have direct links to Florida's highest political circles, The Daily Telegraph has learned. Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist, the state's former governor, a Republican source said, while Pam Bondi, its Attorney General and a close ally of Mitt Romney, attended a function at Mrs Kelley's home.

The sisters are also believed to have attended the farewell party for Sir Nigel Sheinwald, the former British ambassador to the US, in Washington last year. Peter King, a Republican congressman for New York who was at the event, told CNN yesterday that he had met Mrs Kelley at "one or two events at the British embassy". An embassy spokesman declined to check, saying that it would take too much time.

Mrs Kelley, a mother-of-three and unpaid "social liaison" for the US military in Tampa, is said to have spared no expense at such parties to honour top brass stationed at nearby US Central Command. She was pictured at one event at her $1.2 million mansion in 2010 with Gen Petraeus, who arrived in a 28-man police motorcycle escort.

Guests at Mrs Kelley's parties were treated to lavish buffets, drank champagne and puffed on cigars while being entertained by string quartets, according to insider accounts.

Yet she and her husband Scott, a surgeon, were soon being sued for $1.9 million by Central Bank after allegedly failing to keep up with mortgage payments on a house they bought after starting their own property company. A similar $1.8 million property lawsuit from Regions Bank followed soon after.

Later in the year, Regions Bank filed another claim against the Kelleys for $453,000, before Bank of America sued Mrs Kelley for $25,000 in allegedly unpaid credit card charges. All four cases remain open. The banks' lawyers declined to comment. Mrs Kelley's attorney did not return a request for comment.

"There are obviously financial issues," said one associate of the Kelleys.

"Scott goes to work and works his ass off, and Jill takes care of the social stuff, and gets them into the society pages. They are nice people, and I feel sorry for them".

The sisters grew up in Pennsylvania, the daughters of a couple who emigrated to the US from Lebanon during the 1970s. Their parents, who had two other children, owned a middle-eastern restaurant and a vehicle registration firm, records suggest.

"They are active in the G.O.P. social scene in Florida," said a Republican source. "They are fun, friendly and beautiful people and political folks like them. I guess they've hit difficult times". After being given a certificate at one event naming her an "honorary ambassador", Mrs Kelley is said to have begun using the title without the "honorary" prefix.

Miss Khawam, a lawyer, called on their high-level contacts during a bitter custody battle over her four-year-old son in Washington earlier this year.

Both Gen Petraeus and Gen Allen sent letters to the court supporting her case to overturn a ruling denying her custody.

Informing the court in a September memo that he knew Miss Khawam well and had hosted her for dinner last Christmas, Gen Petraeus testified to having seen "a very loving relationship – a mother working hard to provide her son enjoyable, educational and developmental experiences".

Two days later, Gen Allen – who is accused of exchanging thousands of emails with Miss Khawam's sister, Jill – made his own unusual intervention, writing on headed notepaper and signing off with his title as a general in the US Marine Corps.

He said that she "clearly loves" her son, adding: "In light of Natalie's maturity, integrity and steadfast commitment to raising her child, I humbly request your reconsideration of the existing mandated custody settlement." Miss Khawam filed for bankruptcy in April this year, filings show. She owed more than $3 million spanning taxes, property debts, legal fees and personal loans to associates – including $800,000 from Mrs Kelley and her husband, who have taken her in at their Tampa mansion.

Separately she is being sued in Maryland for $100,000 in legal fees and in Florida by her former boss Barry Cohen, a prominent Tampa lawyer, who claims in his lawsuit that she "fraudulently omitted Rolex watches, sable mink furs and a diamond ring" from her bankruptcy filing, which she denies.

Mr Cohen's action came in response to a lawsuit against him from Miss Khawam, who accused him of breach of contract and failing to take action to a complaint of sexual harassment. Mr Cohen denies the allegations



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ns-in-debt.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9676330/David-Petraeus-affair-Florida-twins-courted-generals-and-racked-up-millions-in-debt.html)

cushioncrawler
11-14-2012, 03:21 PM
Petraeus shmaieus.
Why iz it that the whole usofa thinx like gridiron fans.
The whole usofa thinx that every team every problem etc kan be fixed by having the best coach or prez or ceo or general etc.
What a bunch of tossers.

Duz a war need a big name general. Iz afghanistan going better koz of petraeus. What if he had a different name. What if he had the same name az a deodourant.
What a bunch of tossers.
mac.

cushioncrawler
11-14-2012, 07:03 PM
All About the Patriarchy
Krugman.

There’s a strand of thought — I identify it especially with Corey Robin, although he’s not alone — that says that conservatism isn’t really about the things it claims to be about. It isn’t really about free markets and moral values; it’s about authority — the authority of bosses over workers, of men over women, of whites over Those People.

Score one on the morality front: Pat Robertson, stern moral lecturer, says that it wasn’t Petraeus’s fault because “he’s a man”.

Gayle in MD
11-15-2012, 02:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Petraeus shmaieus.
Why iz it that the whole usofa thinx like gridiron fans.
The whole usofa thinx that every team every problem etc kan be fixed by having the best coach or prez or ceo or general etc.
What a bunch of tossers.

Duz a war need a big name general. Iz afghanistan going better koz of petraeus. What if he had a different name. What if he had the same name az a deodourant.
What a bunch of tossers.
mac.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duz a war need a big name general. </div></div>

Lets just say that Presidents garner more patience from Congress, and the public, to continue their wars, when they have a big name general on the face of it.

That said, to me it's a given that war is dumb, and Americans are far too easily accepting as regards war. My generation wasn't so easily bamboozeled.

None of the wars we have fought since WWII, and perhaps Korea, should have been fought, and our country didn't gain anything for having fought them.

Institutional corruption runs rampant, these days, and the Millitary is no less infected than the Catholic Church, or the University of Pennsylvania.

What gets me is that Patraeus is portrayed is having been so brilliant in directing these wars, when in fact, he failed in both cases, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

But this thread is about people who are highly educated, yet still falling victim to their own psychological issues of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and the resulting egoism they were trying to assuage.

This is what happens when the man is touted and praised, beyond any actual accomplishments. Both of the Patraeus Surges, failed to produce the stated mission, yet this country goes along with the propaganda, glorifying Patraeus, even though he failed, b oth surges failed, and because he is a Repiglican, the country remains seemingly unaware of that fact.

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Gayle in MD
11-15-2012, 06:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All About the Patriarchy
Krugman.

There’s a strand of thought — I identify it especially with Corey Robin, although he’s not alone — that says that conservatism isn’t really about the things it claims to be about. It isn’t really about free markets and moral values; it’s about authority — the authority of bosses over workers, of men over women, of whites over Those People.

Score one on the morality front: Pat Robertson, stern moral lecturer, says that it wasn’t Petraeus’s fault because “he’s a man”. </div></div>

I saw that disgusting statement from Pat Roberts. He is disgusting, and if he doen't prove what we Liberals always say about Repiglicans, IIARIOK, what more do we need for proof!

Krugman is always right, and I have never read anything from him that I didn't agree with.


Repiglicans in The House are so far gone, so damned nuts, they are the whole proble, and our party knows that we must continue our election outreach, and double it, in order to get more of the obstructionistic Neanderthals out of there, and trust me, we will! We are FIRED UP AND READY TO GO, and none of us are ending our work. It continues, every weekend, all over the country.

G.

cushioncrawler
11-15-2012, 06:41 AM
Yes my meaning woz that it iz all spin. Might az well watch the wrestling. Everyone knows that the fighting iz krapp and spin. The winner and loozer iz krapp and spin.
The best man/woman for general or prez aint never been heard and never will.
mac.

Gayle in MD
11-15-2012, 06:50 AM
Well, I agree with most of what you are saying, Mac, but IMO we have the best man for the job in the White House right now, and I am very relieved that he won.

All you have to do is read some of the BS coming from the losers, Romney/Ryan, neither of whom evenn managed to win their own home towns, twisting the truth about why they lost, to understand what a colossal disaster it would have been had they managed to throw the election by blocking our citizens from exercising their right to vote.

We definitely doged the bullet on this one.

So what is Romney saying, still blaming the 47%, LMAO, and the Wisconsin senator who ran the election in Wisconsin, is blaming the fact that people, who were meant to be blocked, and disenfranchised, voted.

What is amazing is that these idiots are so out of touch they do not realize even now, over a week later, that their own plan to obstruct our citizens from voting, played a big role is their losses in SOME areas, but far from all areas, and hence the president would still have won, because white people in a number of states voted for the president, and in both of their home towns!

Jerks!

LWW
11-15-2012, 01:35 PM
P E T R A E U S.