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DiabloViejo
02-27-2013, 09:01 PM
Rep. Keith Ellison hammers Sean Hannity: You’re a shill for the Republican Party
By Eric W. Dolan
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 22:44 EST

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/26/rep-keith-ellison-hammers-sean-hannity-youre-a-shill-for-the-republican-party/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Keith-Ellison-screenshot.jpg

Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota ripped into Fox News host Sean Hannity during a tense interview on Tuesday night.

Hannity began his segment by claiming President Barack Obama was to blame for looming across-the-budget cuts known as the sequester. The conservative Fox News host insisted the President was “fearmongering” about the consequences of the cuts and played an irreverent mash-up of Obama’s recent speeches.

“You’re the worst excuse for a journalist I’ve ever seen,” Ellison said after being introduced.

Hannity asked for Ellison to repeat himself, claiming he couldn’t hear him. Instead, Ellison continued to blast Hannity, saying his mash-up was deceptive “yellow journalism” and a “breach of every journalistic ethic I know of.” Ellison told Hannity he was a “shill for the Republican Party,” but Hannity repeatedly insisted he was a “registered conservative.”

“Keep going, keep ranting,” Hannity said.

Ellision said it was wrong for Hannity to blame Obama for the sequester. The across-the-board spending cuts were part of a political deal to raise the federal debt ceiling in 2011. The sequester was intended to be so painful that it would force Republicans and Democrats to compromise on a plan to reduce the federal deficit. Ellison noted a so-called “super committee” that was supposed to hash out a deal had failed and blamed the failure on Republicans’ stubborn opposition to raising taxes.

The two men continued to exchange barbs. Eventually, Hannity asked Ellison about the “immoral” debt.

“You’re immoral,” Ellison replied. “You say things that aren’t true.”

See the complete video courtesy of Fox News, and complete with Hannity's editing and apocalyptic music BS-- (Carl Orff's: Carmina Burana) at the link: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/26/rep-keith-ellison-hammers-sean-hannity-youre-a-shill-for-the-republican-party/

Performance of O Fortuna from Orff's "Carmina Burana" : http://youtu.be/AdIpoE2LEps

Nine ... corner
02-28-2013, 12:50 PM
Hannity is not a journalist but a political commentator with his own agenda. Ellison's claim would be analogous to stating that Rachael Madcow, Mr. Ed or Chris "a thrill up my leg" Matthews are all shills for the Democratic party or the current administration. It's all true is it not?

hondo
02-28-2013, 04:17 PM
Ellison's claim would be analogous to stating that Rachael Madcow,


lww"s favorite expression on AZ. Uses it over and over:

But Rachel Madcow ... high priestess of the howling moonbats ... says he persecuted innocents, and that's all the McCarthy haters need to hear.

HMMM, Sherlock Hondo has deduced that nine corner and lww are one in the same. :wink-new:

Nine ... corner
02-28-2013, 04:45 PM
HMMM, Sherlock Hondo has deduced that nine corner and lww are one in the same. :wink-new:

Sorry to disappoint you but you are wrong ... I am not your friend lww. Apparently he is not the only one to use a slightly altered form of Rachel's name as a pejorative!

hondo
02-28-2013, 06:36 PM
Whatever you say, larry. :emptybath:

JohnnyD
02-28-2013, 07:57 PM
Whatever you say, larry. :emptybath:
Hey hondu why not provide links to your new friend of you saying you pick up boys hitchhiking!
Also he would be interested that you claim to have been a school teacher and now you are a sunday school teacher.Of course your stories of you and drugs and having affairs with your house keeper are still there.
My local VFW Commander awaits your answer from two tears ago.
The truth you don't believe in.You hide from the truth.The truth will set you free.
I have all the links in case you care to review them.
Comprehension is something you were never good at.
Our daily prayers continue for you to calm down and tell the truth.The Lord loves you.
Your friend,
JohnnyD

Soflasnapper
02-28-2013, 08:52 PM
Hannity is not a journalist but a political commentator with his own agenda. Ellison's claim would be analogous to stating that Rachael Madcow, Mr. Ed or Chris "a thrill up my leg" Matthews are all shills for the Democratic party or the current administration. It's all true is it not?


No, it's not true.

I refer you to the reaction of the MSNBC crowd to the first presidential debate. As shills for the party or the president, they would have alibied hard for PBO's failed performance. They didn't do that. They screamed bloody murder. (As PBO said at one of the DC dinners, 'Last time I gave Chris Mattews a thrill up his leg. This time, I gave him a STROKE!'

That's the key difference for Fox and Sean. They would ALWAYS alibi for their side (cf: after the Veep debate-- nothing about Ryan failing, only how mean, disrespectful, and in their inimitable fashion, how literally insane and mentally infirm, Biden had been).

Yes, all sides mentioned are partisans. Some are just far more apologist hacks for their side than the others.

Nine ... corner
02-28-2013, 09:20 PM
No, it's not true.

I refer you to the reaction of the MSNBC crowd to the first presidential debate. As shills for the party or the president, they would have alibied hard for PBO's failed performance. They didn't do that. They screamed bloody murder. (As PBO said at one of the DC dinners, 'Last time I gave Chris Mattews a thrill up his leg. This time, I gave him a STROKE!'

That's the key difference for Fox and Sean. They would ALWAYS alibi for their side (cf: after the Veep debate-- nothing about Ryan failing, only how mean, disrespectful, and in their inimitable fashion, how literally insane and mentally infirm, Biden had been).

Yes, all sides mentioned are partisans. Some are just far more apologist hacks for their side than the others.

I respectfully disagree. You pick one instance (the 1st debate) that there just was no hiding from. His sycophants became apoplectic with his performance because they just could not believe their eyes and ears. As far as his deprecating humor ... it was just the best way to handle an embarrassing performance. But really ... how can you say the MSNBC crowd does not alibi for for him including everything from Bengazi to all the broken promises (transparency, closing Gitmo, cutting the deficit in half during his first 4 years etc, etc).

Gayle in MD
03-02-2013, 10:41 AM
Without all of the Repiglican obstruction, Gitmo would be closed, and the economy would be booming right now.

Additionally, Rachel Maddow continuously invites Repiglicans on her program, and so do the few other Liberal hosts on MSNBC.

Nine ... corner
03-02-2013, 10:49 AM
It would be interesting for you to explain how Republicans prevented Obama from closing Gitmo when he came into office controlling all three branches of government. It was to be his first order of business and he had the executive branch, the house and the senate under his control. Also, MSNBC has a few liberal hosts??? That's funny ... just for fun name one conservative host or regular participant. Enjoy the Kool Aid ... it's tasty.

DiabloViejo
03-02-2013, 11:51 AM
Hey hondu why not provide links to your new friend of you saying you pick up boys hitchhiking!
Also he would be interested that you claim to have been a school teacher and now you are a sunday school teacher.Of course your stories of you and drugs and having affairs with your house keeper are still there.
My local VFW Commander awaits your answer from two tears ago.
The truth you don't believe in.You hide from the truth.The truth will set you free.
I have all the links in case you care to review them.
Comprehension is something you were never good at.
Our daily prayers continue for you to calm down and tell the truth.The Lord loves you.
Your friend,
JohnnyD

Hey 'JohnnyD' why do you refuse to meet me at the church of your choice? Since you're such a sincere and devoutly religious person, why do you shy away from a chance at saving my heathen soul? You are just a bus and subway ride away from me, so why not take me up on the offer? Or could it be that the truth is that you are just another of LWW's fictitious identities? If you are not, then why not prove it? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Soflasnapper
03-02-2013, 08:29 PM
But really ... how can you say the MSNBC crowd does not alibi for for him including everything from Bengazi to all the broken promises (transparency, closing Gitmo, cutting the deficit in half during his first 4 years etc, etc).

Because I, unlike you apparently, have seen many of their hosts go off on Obama from time to time. Here's how the NY Times reported it: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/business/media/16msnbc.html?_r=0 . This is from THE VERY BEGINNING (i.e., late in the first year).



MSNBC Presses Obama on Campaign Promises

By BRIAN STELTER (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/brian_stelter/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Published: November 15, 2009

If President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) happened to glance at “The Rachel Maddow (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/rachel_maddow/index.html?inline=nyt-per) Show” last Monday, he might have winced.

TV ads for Chris Matthews's show use the tagline, “pushing back on the president.”

Ms. Maddow pretended to celebrate the passage of a health care overhaul bill in the House, calling it “potentially a huge generational win for the Democratic Party (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/d/democratic_party/index.html?inline=nyt-org)” — but then halted the triumphant music and called it an “electoral defeat.”

The Stupak amendment, she said, was “the biggest restriction on abortion rights in a generation.” Then she wondered aloud about the consequences for Democrats “if they don’t get women or anybody who’s pro-choice to ever vote for them again.” She returned to the subject the next four evenings in a row.

This is how it looks to have a television network pressuring President Obama from the left.

While much attention has been paid to the feud between the Fox News Channel and the White House, the Obama administration is now facing criticism of a different sort from Ms. Maddow, Keith Olbermann (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/keith_olbermann/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and other progressive hosts on MSNBC, who are using their nightly news-and-views-casts to measure what she calls “the distance between Obama’s rhetoric and his actions.”

While they may agree with much of what Mr. Obama says, they have pressed him to keep his campaign promises about health care, civil liberties and other issues.

“I don’t think our audience is looking for unequivocal ‘rah-rah,’ ” said Ms. Maddow, who calls herself a liberal but not a Democrat.

The spectacle of Democrats sniping at one another is not new, but having a TV home for it is. MSNBC — sometimes critically called the “home team” for supporters of Mr. Obama — has even hit upon the theme with a promotional tagline, “pushing back on the president,” in commercials for “Hardball,” Chris Matthews (http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/m/chris_matthews/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s political hour.
“Our job is not to echo the president’s talking points,” said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. “Our job is to hold whoever’s in power’s feet to the fire.”


As her objections to the Stupak amendment (so named for Representative Bart Stupak, Democrat of Michigan) indicate, much of her work these days involves the Democratic health care overhaul. Ms. Maddow, Mr. Olbermann and Ed Schultz, the channel’s 6 p.m. host, formerly of Air America, have all exhorted Democrats to keep the public option (http://www.nytimes.com/info/public-health-insurance-option?inline=nyt-classifier).

Mr. Schultz started a broadcast last month by asking, “Where is the president? I think it’s time to be clear — crystal clear. What does Barack Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) want when it comes to health care in this country? What does he want in the bill?”

Soflasnapper
03-02-2013, 08:42 PM
For a more recent set of examples, this cites Maddow back in June, and Chris Hayes over the past year:


But it's one thing for a self-identified progressive network to back a Democratic president against a Republican challenger. Campaigns in a two-party system are zero-sum games: Criticizing one side benefits the other. Now, post-election, the question is whether MSNBC continues cheering Obama on -- or takes him on.


Some MSNBC hosts surely know how to hit the president and the party from the left. In June, Rachel Maddow explained (http://leanforward.msnbc.com/_news/2012/06/29/12489607-maddow-exclusive-never-before-seen-footage-of-us-drone-strike-damage-in-pakistan?lite) how Obama "triple-downed" on the Bush administration's use of drones, and three years earlier, she threw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8J_lcHwkvc) Obama's own words on indefinite detention back at him. Over the past year, weekend host Chris Hayes has spoken out on deportations of undocumented immigrants (http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/02/msnbc_looks_at_how_deportation_shatters_families_v ideo.html), the foreclosure crisis (http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/foreclosure-primer-chris-hayes-takes-us.html) and indefinite detention (http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-covered-by-msnbc-this-morning-watch-2011-12), while recently taking Obama adviser Robert Gibbs to task over his dismissive response to the killing of a 16-year-old American (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/robert-gibbs-anwar-al-awlaki_n_2012438.html%3Cbr%20/%3E), Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, who was the son of American-born cleric and al Qaeda representative Anwar al-Awlaki.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/21/msnbc-obama-coverage_n_2170065.html

hondo
03-02-2013, 11:33 PM
Hey 'JohnnyD' why do you refuse to meet me at the church of your choice? Since you're such a sincere and devoutly religious person, why do you shy away from a chance at saving my heathen soul? You are just a bus and subway ride away from me, so why not take me up on the offer? Or could it be that the truth is that you are just another of LWW's fictitious identities? If you are not, then why not prove it? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Thanks, Diablo, but please don't quote him. I have the johnny version of larry/nine corner on total ignore and my life is so much cleaner now.

JohnnyD
03-03-2013, 12:57 AM
thanks, diablo, but please don't quote him. I have the johnny version of larry/nine corner on total ignore and my life is so much cleaner now.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah

Gayle in MD
03-03-2013, 08:41 AM
lww"s favorite expression on AZ. Uses it over and over:

But Rachel Madcow ... high priestess of the howling moonbats ... says he persecuted innocents, and that's all the McCarthy haters need to hear.

HMMM, Sherlock Hondo has deduced that nine corner and lww are one in the same. :wink-new:

Isn't it funny how Repiglicans always think they're fooling everyone, when all but 23%, ALWAYS see right through them?

:tea:ctics

Pointless and immature as their tactics consistantly are, nevertheless, they never wake up and realize that not only do they not fool anyone, but worse, the universal opinion of them remains exatly the same.

DUMB, LOW INFORMATION TROLLS aka the Tea Baggers, are so easy to spot. That Bubbabubble never seems to pop long enough to provide a break from their absurd alternate universe of pure....:der: and:flock: Toddlers annd drug addicts, always think they're folling the world.

Soflasnapper
03-03-2013, 01:37 PM
As I think Lincoln said, you can't fool all the people all the time. Which leaves open the chance that you can fool SOME of the people all the time. Which is their target audience and plan!

Nine ... corner
03-03-2013, 02:02 PM
Lol ... the panderer in chief does a pretty good job of fooling the uninformed. He's fooling you!

hondo
03-03-2013, 02:50 PM
Lol ... the panderer in chief does a pretty good job of fooling the uninformed. He's fooling you!

larry, I will say that in your latest incarnation, you are at least half civil and attempting to discuss the issues.
Drop the johnny d persona, which neither me nor anyone else reads anyway, and I'll let you play your nine corner game.
Besides, you're really not doing anything wrong. lww has not been booted from here.
But try varying your writing style.

When I come on AZ as Slide Rule, I'm completely different from Hondo. :semi-twins:

Nine ... corner
03-03-2013, 03:12 PM
larry, I will say that in your latest incarnation, you are at least half civil and attempting to discuss the issues.
Drop the johnny d persona, which neither me nor anyone else reads anyway, and I'll let you play your nine corner game.
Besides, you're really not doing anything wrong. lww has not been booted from here.
But try varying your writing style.

When I come on AZ as Slide Rule, I'm completely different from Hondo. :semi-twins:

For the umpteenth time ... I am not Larry. I did just join AZ, as this forum really doesn't have much pool related dialogue, so I'll see you over there Slide Rule. I am as I am here Nine ... corner with the same avatar. I'm done here as even being "half civil and attempting to discuss the issues" is fruitless. If they tire of bashing you with names about your political leanings then they criticize your typos ... lol. I do find it funny that somebody in a post recently was lamenting the dwindling number of regular posters and the forum's decline. Gosh, just maybe it has something to do with chasing off new comers who don't tow the Obama line. Adios. :bolt:

JohnnyD
03-03-2013, 04:57 PM
For the umpteenth time ... I am not Larry. I did just join AZ, as this forum really doesn't have much pool related dialogue, so I'll see you over there Slide Rule. I am as I am here Nine ... corner with the same avatar. I'm done here as even being "half civil and attempting to discuss the issues" is fruitless. If they tire of bashing you with names about your political leanings then they criticize your typos ... lol. I do find it funny that somebody in a post recently was lamenting the dwindling number of regular posters and the forum's decline. Gosh, just maybe it has something to do with chasing off new comers who don't tow the Obama line. Adios. :bolt:

Now you know why everybody left here.
He is not Slide Rule that is another of his lies in assuming others names.Just like he took the name of Hondo from one of Hollywood's greatest actors.When you read Slide Rules posts you will read intelligent posts.Hondu has no intelligent posts.He has been trying to convince people that he is a retired school teacher and now a sunday school teacher.LOL.
Hondu has a well tracked history on here and the other forum of lying.It's been two years now that the local VFW Commander has been waiting on an answer from the fraud.Also he propositioned a person here in a pm for sex.He even posted here about picking up boys hitch hiking.All the posts and threads are there to read.
A drama queen for sure.
This is why everyday in prayer hour we pray for his demented soul.

hondo
03-03-2013, 08:57 PM
For the umpteenth time ... I am not Larry. I did just join AZ, as this forum really doesn't have much pool related dialogue, so I'll see you over there Slide Rule. I am as I am here Nine ... corner with the same avatar. I'm done here as even being "half civil and attempting to discuss the issues" is fruitless. If they tire of bashing you with names about your political leanings then they criticize your typos ... lol. I do find it funny that somebody in a post recently was lamenting the dwindling number of regular posters and the forum's decline. Gosh, just maybe it has something to do with chasing off new comers who don't tow the Obama line. Adios. :bolt:

Bye, larry. See you in next incarnation. :wink-new:

Gayle in MD
03-04-2013, 10:19 AM
As I think Lincoln said, you can't fool all the people all the time. Which leaves open the chance that you can fool SOME of the people all the time. Which is their target audience and plan!

Very True, and that same 28% remains unfazed regardlesss of how much documentation they have to ignore.

Soflasnapper
03-04-2013, 12:46 PM
Lol ... the panderer in chief does a pretty good job of fooling the uninformed. He's fooling you!

I am not uninformed, and I don't know what you think he's fooling me about. I doubt you know, either, as your time here is too short to have an informed opinion about me (unless what they say is so, and for now, I don't think it is so). But by your apparent theory that Obama is fooling people on policy matters on a large scale, I suggest you may be instead fooled about that being so.

I've heard of most of the talking point accusations against him or his policy statements, I've heard the talking points pushing back, and I've read the various fact checkers before deciding.

BTW, it's almost always the case that the GOP/anti-Obama side is howlingly wrong. Even when there is a true point they could be making, they exaggerate it to the point that it is literally false.

Here's another clue for you: almost every viral e-mail that's forwarded around is also false, esp. when they cite no reference, and use non-existent people or false identities as the supposed authors. This is iron-clad enough that almost every one can be presumed false without even looking into it. I've looked into dozens over some decades, and that is by far the general rule.