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11-14-2002, 08:32 PM
Does anyone have Tiger stack leather wrap.How do you like it?

Thierry Layani
11-14-2002, 08:39 PM
We've started installing stack leather wraps on some of our higher end cues a few months back and we've had nothing but nice comments about them. It really adds a nice look to the cue because of the colors and the syles available that can really match your cue. Some people like the feel some don't but actually you can get either a very sticky feel or a very slick one depending on the way it is polished. That's what I have on my own cues and I definitely recommand the stack to anyone.

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)

Popcorn
11-14-2002, 09:27 PM
May I ask, what is the core diameter of the wrap area?

Thierry Layani
11-14-2002, 11:21 PM
On our cues it will usually be at 0.020in. exactly the same thing as for irish linen. The thing with the stack leather is that you need to sand it down. This means that you can leave any diameter you want between 0.015 and 0.030in. It does make a mess when you install it but even if you make a mistake it's real easy to correct it because you can work the leather. It's not like installing a one piece leather wrap.

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)

Popcorn
11-15-2002, 12:19 AM
Are you referring to a leather warp that you wrap on in a spiral, or one that goes on like a stack of leather washers?

smfsrca
11-15-2002, 12:56 AM
I have been using the stack leather wrap on my cues for about 6 months now and am very satisfied. I intend on having the same wrap put on any cue I get in the future as well. When I show the wrap to anyone who is not familiar with it their first reaction is "Wow! You can't even tell where the seam is." The wrap is finished so well it is not at all obvious that it is a stranded wrap.
My wrap was done by:
Sheldon Lebow http://www.sheldoncue.com/
Springfield, Oregon
Email: mail@sheldoncue.com
Telephone: (541) 741-1947

Steve in CA

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 09:52 AM
I'm refering to the one that wraps just like irish linen. I'm not sure I understand the other one you're refering to.

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)

bluewolf
11-15-2002, 10:25 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thierry Layani:</font><hr> On our cues it will usually be at 0.020in. exactly the same thing as for irish linen. The thing with the stack leather is that you need to sand it down. This means that you can leave any diameter you want between 0.015 and 0.030in. It does make a mess when you install it but even if you make a mistake it's real easy to correct it because you can work the leather. It's not like installing a one piece leather wrap.

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)
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I am very attracted to the leather wrap vs the linen wrap. Does the leather make your hand sweat more? Will a little baby powder damage the leather?

Next thing. Most of the sticks I see at the PH have very fat butts. I am accustomed to a thinner shaft which is dense in the wood and a thinner butt. Do you or can you make anything like that? I would want a simple looking cue with leather wrap, no inlays, with finish on the shaft so I am not having to put baby powder on it all the time.

bw

Popcorn
11-15-2002, 11:57 AM
They used to make small washers that just stacked on like the way some knife handles are made. You had to turn the wrap area down a lot to accommodate them.

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 12:04 PM
Most of the people I know who had sweaty hands prefer the stack leather to irish linen. The leather probably absorbs more. Moreover if your hands sweats too much and affect the look of the leather you can resand it down and repolish it so that it looks like new, unlike irish linen.

We can make a shaft and a butt at any diameter you want. Right now the end of our butts measures 1.245, which is already small, but we could make it smaller. We do make plain looking cues in any exotic wood you want with no inlays. Putting a finish on the complete shaft would make it very sticky tough, I don't thinks that's what you would want. The only solution to shaft stickiness is to clean the shaft (and your hands)regularly with alcool. But you might want to use soap for your hands!
Just contact me for further details.

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)
info@layanicues.com
1-888-651-7381

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 12:06 PM
I see. But I've never seen that on a cue. Do you know any cuemakers who uses that?

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)

Fred Agnir
11-15-2002, 12:49 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thierry Layani:</font><hr> We've started installing stack leather wraps... <hr /></blockquote>

Is there a website somewhere so I can see different colors (colours)?


Fred

smfsrca
11-15-2002, 01:08 PM
http://www.tigerproducts.com/stackleatherwrap.htm

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 01:20 PM
Try Tiger's website http://www.tigerproducts.com/stackleatherwrap.htm

but the pictures are not that good. For a perfect color match the ideal situation is to send them the cue.
They will probably still make some wraps in Valley Forge this year. Thinkin' of going Fred?

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)

TonyM
11-15-2002, 01:26 PM
Joe Porper. There are some pictures of his cues in the Blue book of pool cues (vol 1) page 60, photo # 45.
You can only see a bit of the handle area, but you can see the stacked leather wrap clearly.

Tony

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 01:39 PM
Thanks. I'll take a look at it.

Thierry Layani

Fred Agnir
11-15-2002, 02:16 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Thierry Layani:</font><hr>.
They will probably still make some wraps in Valley Forge this year. Thinkin' of going Fred?

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)
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Why? You want some more of this in that midnight madness tourney again? LOL!! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'll be there. And once again I'll pretend like I might actually have time to do the VF tourney.

Fred &lt;~~~ lost to Thierry on the hill

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 02:27 PM
Of course I do! I'll be there too and I'll even have a booth this year. Looking forward to that long night!

Thierry

Popcorn
11-15-2002, 02:27 PM
The wrap you use I think is supplied by Tiger. How easy do you find that wrap to put on?

Thierry Layani
11-15-2002, 02:59 PM
As I said it is somewhat messy but once you know the procedure it's fairly easy. But it takes much longer than irish linen around 2 hours for the whole procedure.
The nice thing about the stack is that even if you mess up you can patch it up and it won't show. Unlike a one piece leather where the seam is the most important thing for a good job, even if a seam in the stack shows up you'll be able to patch it up and still have a 'perfect' look.

Thierry Layani
www.layanicues.com (http://www.layanicues.com)