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Wally_in_Cincy
11-21-2002, 09:20 AM
Didn't Grady Matthews once say that you need to hit 500,000 balls to be a decent player?

I don't practice as much as I should so I've probably averaged 500 per week for 5 years, so I'm at about 130,000.

Anybody care to guess how many balls you've hit in your career?

dave
11-21-2002, 12:06 PM
Do miscues count? I don't have enough fingers and toes for this!

Rod
11-21-2002, 01:03 PM
Wally, No clue to Grady's reference. If you made 300 balls a day for 300 days that's 90,000. That gives you 65 days off a year. 300 isn't that many and if your really interested 65 days is to much time off. What, you want a life? I see it like this, balls not pocketed can count to. When you play a safe in any game that just adds to your knowledge. When you miss you should learn something too. Every game has strategty and leave involved. Games like 1P, Golf, etc you may not pocket a ball but learn from the stroke and where the balls stop. I don't know the number but 500,000 might be a decent player. It depends on what we think is decent. Define the term decent may give a clue. I have no clue how many balls shot safetys etc. I will guess for me 500,000 was easily less than 5 years.

Ludba
11-21-2002, 01:03 PM
I've been keeping track of how much time I spend playing, practicing, etc. since september 1 of this year. I've actually been playing seriously since october of last year.
I also keep records of specific matches, practice session, and friendly games. On average in my league matches, I shoot about 20 shots per hour. On average in my friendly games, I shoot about 50 shots per hour. On average in my practice sessions I shoot about 40 shots per hour.
Since 9/1/2002, I've spent about 90 hours each in league, practice, and friendly games.

So an estimate for the last three months would be 90 x (20+50+40), which equals 9900. I can estimate conservatively that the 8 months prior to that I have played about half as much per month. ((9900/3)/2)*8=13200

13200 + 9900= 23,100 shots.

smfsrca
11-21-2002, 01:11 PM
Either too many or not enough. I'm not sure which.
Steve in CA

Wally_in_Cincy
11-21-2002, 02:14 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rod:</font><hr>I don't know the number but 500,000 might be a decent player. It depends on what we think is decent. Define the term decent... <hr /></blockquote>

"A" level

Karatemom
11-21-2002, 02:46 PM
Not nearly enough, but probably in the range of about 5,000.

Heide

Rod
11-21-2002, 05:04 PM
Wally,

Well if that is an A then AA then AAA then Pro maybe.
Just a guess, we all get a guess, right?

bluewolf
11-21-2002, 05:16 PM
cant count to 5000 so will just say too numerous to count if i get to count the balls i hit as a child.

blu

Ludba
11-21-2002, 07:16 PM
After reviewing this information, I might consider spending less time in leagues (20 shots per hour) and more time playing a friend (50 sph) and practicing alone (40 sph).

Practicing alone is cheaper and healthier. Usually leagues cost 5-10 bucks a night, and after 7pm my pool hall becomes one big smokehouse. I come home smelling like an ashtray. Usually when I practice, it's before 5pm and free. I've managed to finagle my way into the hearts of my pool hall stewards.

I was surprised to find that playing with a friend averages out to more shots per hour, but I think that practicing alone is more focused on improvement. So I don't think I'll become a hermit, but I'll probably cut down on my 4 leagues and practice more on all that I've learned recently.

I've still got 476,900 shots to go before I become a decent player. At 40 shots an hour, 5 hours a day, 5 days a week, that's nine years before I can gain Grady's acceptance.

MaineEAck
11-21-2002, 08:00 PM
I think I shoot a lot more then that... When I practice(10 hours a week) I just shoot balls the whole time... I just run rack after rack in 14.1 or 9-ball( well I do miss a lot, but anyway) so for 4 years, I have to be up there. This weekend I am going to keep trak of how many shots I shoot in an hour. That should give me a good idea, RIGHT?

TonyM
11-21-2002, 11:47 PM
Actually, I think that Grady said that you should have hit over 2 million shots before even thinking about turning pro.

Some other estimates for other skills (like top musicians, and surgeons, athletes etc.) suggest that it requires about 10,000 hours to "master" any complex skill.

That's not too bad if yuo can spend 40 hours a week (works out to about 5 years).

I don't think that it works as well if the skill is develped over a bery long time , using very short practice period though.

In other words, it might also depend on how the time is being used, and how the time is accumulated.

Tony
-guessing? 250,000 balls????????????

Chris Cass
11-22-2002, 01:29 AM
752,000 plus 1 bank. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,

C.C.~~who knows? I like doing it that's for sure.hahahha

11-22-2002, 11:56 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> Didn't Grady Matthews once say that you need to hit 500,000 balls to be a decent player?

I don't practice as much as I should so I've probably averaged 500 per week for 5 years, so I'm at about 130,000.

Anybody care to guess how many balls you've hit in your career?

<hr /></blockquote>

OH geez.. 15 balls to a rack, and I try to hit about 10 racks worth a day in practice at least. more like 20 or 30 in playing someone.. so average is about 20 racks.

20 x 15 = 300 x 300 (take about 65 days off a year) 90,000 for 4 years 90,000 x 4 = 360,000.

Hey, I'm gettin there! /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif
/ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Voodoo Daddy
11-23-2002, 12:10 AM
200 balls a day times 7 days= 1400 a week
1400 balls a week times 50 weeks a year= 70,000
70,000 balls a year times 20 years= 1.4 MILLION balls in my lifetime and I still miss, geez /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

eg8r
11-23-2002, 02:14 AM
[ QUOTE ]
This weekend I am going to keep trak of how many shots I shoot in an hour. That should give me a good idea, RIGHT? <hr /></blockquote>Almost...Take this data down for at least 10 different hours (preferably different days for each hour), this will give you a small sample set to work from. A better idea would be to do this around a 100 or more times to start getting a larger sample set. My reasoning for tracking this data on different days would coincide with the irregularities of play, i.e. mood, time, etc. Another idea would be to take the data from your first hour, middle hour, and last hour, and do this for at least 10 days. This will also help you forcast how many balls you shot at different periods during your session. You might find that you are slower at the end of the session.

There are a multitude of anomalies that might come out of this data but it will be a rough enough idea to make a guess at how many balls you are shooting.

eg8r &lt;~~~Too much work for me, and I quit SPC to move to Texas.

11-26-2002, 01:47 PM
On the average if I hit 100 balls a day, roughly 100 days a year for the last 3 years equals 30,000 balls. So many, yet so few, I guess.

Rod
11-26-2002, 01:57 PM
Wally since my last post I may have hit 6 to 800 balls.

~~~ hope this helps

Wally_in_Cincy
11-26-2002, 03:26 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rod:</font><hr> Wally since my last post I may have hit 6 to 800 balls.

~~~ hope this helps <hr /></blockquote>

Gee, thanks for the update Rod....I guess /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

That's only 1.2 to 160 per day. Get to work dammit /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kato
11-26-2002, 03:33 PM
Approximately 29 but I missed 11 of them. I don't think I'm doing very well in keeping up with my pool playing brethren. Mostly I just get out of the chair to rack.

Kato