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Jon from MN
01-05-2003, 09:27 AM
One of my best friends quit playing. Johnny is a friend of mine he was the first pro out of Minnesota a great player. Well no one has seen him for a couple years so I called on him and he said he quit. I couldnt believe it his older brother was my mentor Johnny was 1 of the most feared players in MN. I asked why he said he cant make a living at it anymore? He says the cost to go to tournys is 300 -500 you need to take a top 3 all the time to make money when you do that nobody gambles. If you go on the road like in the past its not only dangerous but expensive. Johnny never as far as I know hustled anyone he just played straight up. He says he dosent have the patience to teach. So that dosent leave him much choice since pool is all he knew. I still remember when I was a young gun on the rise a older player said Jon the best lesson you could get is to get a good job. I cursed the man and challenged him. It wasnt untill much later in life that I realized that was probably the best advise anyone ever gave me. Now I wish Johnny would have gotten the same message. The rest of the pool players in mn are being cheated out of such a great talent. ~~I wish for Johnny some happiness~~ Jon from MN

01-05-2003, 01:05 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Jon from MN:</font><hr> One of my best friends quit playing. Johnny is a friend of mine he was the first pro out of Minnesota a great player. Well no one has seen him for a couple years so I called on him and he said he quit. I couldnt believe it his older brother was my mentor Johnny was 1 of the most feared players in MN. I asked why he said he cant make a living at it anymore? He says the cost to go to tournys is 300 -500 you need to take a top 3 all the time to make money when you do that nobody gambles. If you go on the road like in the past its not only dangerous but expensive. Johnny never as far as I know hustled anyone he just played straight up. He says he dosent have the patience to teach. So that dosent leave him much choice since pool is all he knew. I still remember when I was a young gun on the rise a older player said Jon the best lesson you could get is to get a good job. I cursed the man and challenged him. It wasnt untill much later in life that I realized that was probably the best advise anyone ever gave me. Now I wish Johnny would have gotten the same message. The rest of the pool players in mn are being cheated out of such a great talent. ~~I wish for Johnny some happiness~~ Jon from MN <hr /></blockquote>

You can make money at it and NOT have to hustle. I sometimes think alot of pool players in this world will pay money just to have someone to play with that is good and can teach them things. Combine that with a friendly spirited attitude, and people will search you out to play, have fun, and give you money. There is a saying that goes something like "So you wanna be a professional pool player, eh? ok, what you gonna do for a living?"

I dunno.. pool is fun. You beat up on those that aren't as good as you, and you learn from those who are better. Take those lessons elsewhere and get a little money for it. Travel around, offer lessons, run tournaments, and promote the game. Don't quit because you aren't rich off of it. It's fun.. and as Bob byrnes says, it's a "game as thrilling as skydiving, but less dangerous and easier on the joints.."

Troy
01-05-2003, 04:45 PM
Unfortunately for your friend, he had the mistaken idea that money can be made playing pool. Maybe a couple players in the world can make real money, the rest will starve without an outside source of income.

Advise to all young players --- Get an education and learn to enjoy pool.

Troy

Jon from MN
01-05-2003, 07:14 PM
Exactly years ago before casinos pull tabs scratch offs there were only so many ways to gamble. Pool and sports along with poker were the only real bets. Now the casinos are the major tournaments in our area, the only way to leagally win some $$ with out the hassel. Its ironic the same thing that stoped guys like Johnny and many others from making a living playing pool is the only way a player can make some $$ without gambling now days. Pool is in dier need of some new found money I think some new found personality as well. JMO ~~~ Jon from MN ~~~

snipershot
01-06-2003, 01:02 AM
/ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I don't think your friend should give up the sport altogether because he can't make money off it anymore. I would be awfully disapointed if that is the sole reason he started the sport in the first place, pool is a fun (and addicting!) sport. He should still go out and play with his friends and have a good time despite the fact he isn't playing to make a living off of the sport.

Brent
01-06-2003, 02:38 AM
HI everyone. Im gonna go a bit offtopic and use this topic to complain about my little problem concerning pool and money. Its like this: Im a college student and I dont have a job. All the money I got comes from my parents who are a bit old-fashioned /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif and to be quite honest Im pretty sure my mom doesnt like me playing pool at all cuz she thinks its gambling game or something like that. Dad on the other hand is quite ok with it cuz he gave me the money for the cue. In Estonia the fee for pool is about 4$ for an hour, a bit more in the evenings. This is prolly cheap for u but for me it isnt all that simple. The problem is that Im just starting out and things are going good Im planning to join the league and so on. A lot of good players around here like my game and they are the ones who suggested for me to go compete and try that kind of a game. So now Im all hyped up and wanting to play every minute I can but I just cant afford it. All my money goes to pool. I dont even go to the movies or stuff like that. I know u all probably gonna say that I should get a part time job...I know that but It aint so easy to find one here with a high-school education. So I was wondering how did u start out and maybe someone has any ideas on how to improve my situation cuz I really want to keep on playing. Thnx everyone for hearing me out.

Regards
Brent

Wally_in_Cincy
01-06-2003, 08:17 AM
Tell the pool hall owner you will work for him a few hours a week in exchange for free table time. Just a thought.

wolfsburg2
01-06-2003, 08:23 AM
that is a very good piece of advice. work a couple of hours. get in good with the owner, i am sure you will learn a lot just from being around good players.

dardusm
01-06-2003, 12:27 PM
Jon,

That is a sad story. There are so many tournaments, leagues, etc. to quench the thirst of any competitor. I have known a few good players that have quit the game because it consumed them. They fall victim of the dark side /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif The problem is that it is an all or nothing venture. IMHO, the key is balance. Play to have fun, compete, and socialize. Spending years learning the game and then quitting is sad.

Darryl

01-06-2003, 04:04 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote dardusm:</font><hr> Jon,

That is a sad story. There are so many tournaments, leagues, etc. to quench the thirst of any competitor. I have known a few good players that have quit the game because it consumed them. They fall victim of the dark side /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif The problem is that it is an all or nothing venture. IMHO, the key is balance. Play to have fun, compete, and socialize. Spending years learning the game and then quitting is sad.

Darryl <hr /></blockquote>

When I first started 4 years ago, I played with a guy who had been playing his whole life. The guy was amazing, albeit being a little "off" due to a head injury when he was a kid, he could run EVERY table, and bank the 8 1,2,3,4,5 or sometimes 6 rails, to any pocket.

His parents locked him in his room with a pool table for years, and all he did was play pool. He had a coffee can that he used for a pisser.

All this guy wanted to do was play pool. He got all excited when I showed up, cause he knew I'd sit there and rack, after rack wait for a shot.. I got a shot about once every other game or so, sometimes not for 3 or 4 games.

anyways, the guy lived a totally happy life, and about 2 years ago died in his sleep of a heart attack. I think if you do nothing else on this planet but find something you love to do, make a few good friends, and treat everyone with dignity, respect, and love.. you can't go wrong. The love of money is the root of all evil.