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Tom_In_Cincy
03-17-2002, 11:45 AM
Looks like Allison is starting a NEW image..

Please check out her newly remodeled (sorry bad pun) site.. http://www.allisonfisher.com/

Harold Acosta
03-17-2002, 03:25 PM
Oh, I could marry that girl, if only my wife would divorce me!

03-17-2002, 04:37 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr> Looks like Allison is starting a NEW image..

Please check out her newly remodeled (sorry bad pun) site.. <a target="_blank" href=http://www.allisonfisher.com/>http://www.allisonfisher.com/</a>
<hr></blockquote>

To me it screams, "I CAN'T BEAT KAREN CORR, BUT I CAN LOOK BETTER THAN HER!!!"

03-17-2002, 04:58 PM
Hey, Louis,
I don't know about that, Karen's pretty hot too when she is all "Dolled UP"

03-17-2002, 06:25 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: TheShot:</font><hr> Hey, Louis,
I don't know about that, Karen's pretty hot too when she is all "Dolled UP" <hr></blockquote>

Oh...well, whatever floats your boat. I guess I know too many beautiful girls that all give Karen and Allison the 6out when looks are on the line.

Cuemage
03-17-2002, 07:18 PM
Allison is lookin about 10K better after Valley Forge.

The Cuenage

cuechick
03-17-2002, 08:02 PM
Since Karen only took 2 games off Allison in 2 matches at Valley Forge this weekend, I don't think so.

03-17-2002, 08:19 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: cuechick:</font><hr>
Since Karen only took 2 games off Allison in 2 matches at Valley Forge this weekend, I don't think so. <hr></blockquote>

Karen wins at 9ball. Allison wins at 8ball. That's the way it should be.

Play one pocket for a tie-breaker! (Karen will take the cheese in that too.)

Chris Cass
03-18-2002, 01:27 AM
They should of took a close up on those green eyes. So, those are the pants everyone was talking about?
C.C.~~she doesn't sound Italian to me.

cuechick
03-18-2002, 09:09 AM
Louis,
FYI: The women played 9-ball in Valley Forge this weekend(then men played 8 ball). I also watched Allison win the tournament of Champions (over Karen) on ESPN (9 ball) Sunday. I think Karen is a great player but I think Allison is may be the best female player ever. Not to take away from a terrific year that Karen had, but it was a tragic year for Allison personally. Whatever, the truth is I think all great sports have great rivalries and this is plus for Women's Pool anyway you call it! /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif

03-18-2002, 09:40 AM
I watched the Champion of Champions match too- It was a great match and both women played tremendously. Overall I'd say Allison dominated the whole match. It came down to a sudden death rack for $25,000 and Allison was so damn cool under pressure- and played that rack beautifully. It was really something to see.

cuechick
03-18-2002, 09:50 AM
I agree, though my jaw did drop when she missed that nine in the side! I have never seen her miss a easy 9 ball!! I think she could not believe it either, and think it shows we are ALL human, and that that tourny meant A LOT!! I loved when she threw her cue on the table after making the last 9-ball. I think her passion for the game is back, that is what a good challenge will do for you!

03-18-2002, 11:22 AM
Sure, but all you can do after is share a smoke. With Allison you can have great pool too.

03-18-2002, 11:47 AM
Allison IS looking especially good these days, and playing in top form. The match on TV, Sunday was superb, but too bad the great women players don't make as much money as the great men players.

03-18-2002, 06:31 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: Ron Montgomery:</font><hr> Sure, but all you can do after is share a smoke. With Allison you can have great pool too. <hr></blockquote>

Actually, with the one girl I know, we can share a smoke and have great POOL too. /ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif

Nostroke
03-18-2002, 10:21 PM
Allison has always been beautiful-However like many females who think like her, she has had no real interest in being sexy and she was not in trhe least bit sexy at VF-Similarly, Karen cant find a shirt baggy enough to hide her attributes.

03-18-2002, 10:26 PM
Tom, you should have seen Allison at Valley Forge yesterday for the final TV match - WOW. Her outfit and new hairdo was topped only by her scintillating execution and performance on the table! Just why has she been hiding that figure all these years? She's certainly come a long ways as far as fashion since her snooker and early WPBA years. Now if Dixie can talk KC in to contact lenses, a makeover and a little wardrobe shopping, the WPBA will be all set for skyrocketing TV ratings! Look for new new great pics to be added to Allison's website soon.

Although unrelated to the post, it was really classy to see first KC and then AF say some very nice things about each other to the crowd following the match during the awards ceremony at VF. AF dedicated this victory to her late Dad and #1 fan Peter Fisher - who passed away from cancer just before VF last year. It was quite an emotional scene I will never forget. - Chris in NC

SPetty
03-19-2002, 12:18 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: Chris in NC:</font><hr> Now if Dixie can talk KC in to contact lenses, a makeover and a little wardrobe shopping, the WPBA will be all set for skyrocketing TV ratings! - Chris in NC <hr></blockquote>

Hi Chris,

As someone who wears glasses and who is not a candidate for laser eye surgery and who can't wear contacts, I am thrilled that there is a top player that is wearing glasses. "Everyone" has always said that you can't be a top pool player if you wear glasses, and Karen has shown us that is false, giving just a little more hope to all us "four-eyes".

And, who is Dixie? Is she the woman at Valley Forge that I heard recruiting Gerta to sit in that empty seat (across from the cameras) and to "smile a lot"? What is her (Dixie's) role with WPBA?

Thanks.

03-19-2002, 01:57 PM
Dixie Carter - the head of Trifecta Entertainment out of Nashville, TN was hired by the WPBA a few years ago as a marketing consultant for the tour. To my observation, it seems she's made her largest contribution in her efforts to get a number of the players to upgrade their fashion, dress, make-up, hairstyle, etc. - particularly the ones who needed it the most and the ones that are most often in the limelight and on TV.

As far as KC, she is no doubt an awesome player. However, if you look at her most recent WPBA publicity 8x10 photo and compare that to the KC you see at the matches and on TV, you wouldn't have a clue that it was even the same person. It is incredible to me how she plays at that level with glasses and amazingly has the flexibility with her neck to get her chin right down on the cue. I wear glasses myself for everything except for pool - in which I wear contacts which allows me to get right down on the cue. I can only assume that the only reason KC does not wear contacts is due to a stigmatism which prevents her from being able to wear them - as IMO wearing lenses would very likely even further improve her game.

My guess is that it's currently one of Dixie's most immediate goals to work on changing KC's current Harry Potter image without managing to upset or insult her in the process. I know KC personally, and the fact is that she does have tremendous potential as far as her attractiveness - if she would only utilize what she has. - Chris in NC

03-19-2002, 03:01 PM
No offense to anyone, but I personally find the emphasis on "glamorizing" women pros for better ratings (and the objectification of women players in general) pretty disgusting. I personally think it's more than enough that the Karen Corr(s) and Allison Fisher(s) of this world have committed themselves day in and day out, year after year, decade after decade to the sport. What they bring to the table is their game- and that oughta be enough.

03-19-2002, 03:34 PM
dcardena, I agree totally with what you say. However the fact is that for the WPBA tour to grow considerably (particularly in terms of prize money compensation for the players) they must attract big sponsors outside of the industry. To attract those big sponsors the tour needs to somehow attain considerably higher TV ratings. Perhaps not the only way, but the bottom line likely best way to attain that in our culture (like it or not) is to sell the sex appeal attractiveness of the female pro players. JMHO - Chris in NC

03-19-2002, 03:50 PM
I understand the logic of that argument Chris, (with respect to WPBA marketing) but it bothers me nonetheless. /ccboard/images/icons/frown.gif
-Danny

TonyM
03-19-2002, 05:02 PM
"What they bring to the table is their game- and that oughta be enough."

Here, Here!

Tap, tap, tap...

Tony

Harold Acosta
03-19-2002, 06:52 PM
dcardena, you're full of it!

Someone always has to come along and sound politically correct. There is no need for that here! You may not like it but in order to get greater men audience, sex appeal definitely sells! I have been at my favorite bar many times and when Jeanette Lee, Loree Jon Jones, or Ewa Laurence plays, everyone watches. When Karen and Fisher plays only a select few watch. Why, because Lee, Jones, and Ewa are more appealing and pleasant to the eye!

For those of us who are serious, your words are of enlightment. For those of us who also like to have fun, you're full of it.

No offense to anyone...



Harold - Puerto Rico

03-19-2002, 09:20 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr> <font color=blue> You may not like it but in order to get greater men audience, sex appeal definitely sells! </font color=blue> <hr></blockquote>

I don't disagree with you- it's a no-brainer that sex sells and that a greater audience of men can be drawn through marketing the sex appeal of pro woman players. But I hope that's not what the WPBA stands for- I hope they opt instead to gain the audience of greater men through promotion of their members' talent.

-dc

03-19-2002, 10:06 PM
dcardena: Good posts. Here, here.

03-19-2002, 11:11 PM
i have been silently observing all this time, but when it comes down to it, sex does sell, and as much as i WISH i could play like karen or alison, i don't think i would ever compromise my looks to play like them....i would rather play 3 balls under them and still look the way i do........but from what i hear there is a pretty girl from CA that would give corr and fisher the 6 out in looks and she plays her a$$ off, that right there will revolutionize the WBPA.......y'all better watch out when im done with the I SUCK AT POOL stage....lol...JOKES......and by the way, louis from PA, LOVE HIM......absolutely ADORE HIM.......

03-19-2002, 11:32 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: DE_PooL_Grl:</font><hr> and by the way, louis from PA, LOVE HIM......absolutely ADORE HIM....... <hr></blockquote>
SHUCKS!!! Me???

/ccboard/images/icons/smile.gif

03-19-2002, 11:39 PM
of course you, and we can have that smoke ANYDAY OF THE WEEK,.....specially friday.....cause u know what day friday is......what? did someone say pool and alcohol? im sooooo there.....only thing that can make that better.......one word......CASINO........LOUIS IS GREAT! and now i am off to bed!!

03-20-2002, 12:27 AM
DE-Poolgirl, I'm figuring that must likely be young Michelle Rakin you're talking about out in California - though there are many talented young players from that state. Yes, Michelle has talent and looks - but is unproven at the WPBA level. As with many other young talents in any sport, it remains to be seen whether she can succeed at the highest level as the competition gets so much tougher and one's success (even if you have great skills and fundamentals) is so dependent on one's mental discipline and toughness - which so very few seem to have.

As for great performances from WPBA players at Valley Forge (other than of course Allison), I'd have to give my vote to 19 year-old Sarah Rousey. She's the 1999 &amp; 2000 BCA Junior Girl's Champion. In only her 2nd Classic tour event, she played her butt off in VF winning 3 or 4 matches - knocking off some players she was NOT suppost to beat! Also, I must mention Canada's Maureen Seto. Little Mo lost her very first match after blowing an 8-3 lead. How did she respond to such heartbreak - by winning like 6 or 7 back-to-back matches in a row against a number of players she wasn't suppost to beat to finish tied for 7th or 9th - her best finish I can recall in years. Lastly, England's Kim Shaw (another former snooker player) won 2-3 matches in only her 2nd tour start. This woman dresses with more American style than did Allison or Karen in their early years, and the way she walks in to her shot and stands is a clone of Allison's. If she gets enough starts, she'll be a top 16 player within a relatively short time span. Congrats to Sarah, Maureen &amp; Kim for a great tourney at VF! - Chris in NC

03-20-2002, 05:43 PM
Ya know it's interesting...

I've never heard a guy complain that Micheal Jordan wasn't good looking enough....

I've never heard a guy say that "Wow, I like how Joe Montana looked when he bent over. Now, if only he'd do more with his hair."

I've never heard a guy say that the reason Tiger Woods is so successful is because he hired a fashion consultant. And as far as guys go watching pool, the same guy shooters who will watch Jeanette, turn their heads at Corr, will drop everything to watch Efren Reyes (now there's a looker.).

I'm absolutely tired of men saying that the only way that women can be successful in public is to shake their booties, dress like you know whats, and appeal to a bunch of guys who let their little heads so the thinking for their big heads. It's bull crap.

If that's what you guys think it takes, to heck with ya all.

BTW, there's plenty of guys up here who WILL DROP EVERYTHING to watch Allison and Corr play, because these guys are real pool shooters, and understand the talent. Ewa may only get an occasional glance, and Jeanette' gaining momentum again now because she looks good, but also is playing good.

I think this is my first real flame...&lt;wow, where did that come from?...&gt;

Tommy_Davidson
03-21-2002, 03:12 AM
Is that the same Dixie Carter that used to be on Designing Women? Tommy D.

SPetty
03-21-2002, 02:00 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote: St. Paul Gal:</font><hr> &lt;wow, where did that come from?...&gt; <hr></blockquote>

I don't know where it came from, but I really liked it! Keep 'em coming!

03-22-2002, 06:29 PM
Thanks. I think I need to maybe create a Kato personna for that side of my personality, though. Don't want Tom in Cincy to think I've lost my sparkly glow ;-)

Tom_In_Cincy
03-22-2002, 06:32 PM
I would have to have a brain first to be able to THINK you have lost the GLOW.. .. missing your trip to Cincy..