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Harold Acosta
02-23-2003, 11:40 AM
My two favorite passtimes...

Here is Efren Reyes and Joe Korsiak killing some time...

http://www.azbilliards.com/gallery/trump10ball/P2190033.jpg

Wondering who won that match....

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Harold Acosta
02-23-2003, 11:58 AM
Found another picture at AZ Billiards...

http://www.azbilliards.com/gallery/trump10ball/P2184286.jpg

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landshark1002000
02-23-2003, 02:05 PM
Hi Harold:
/ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gifYou're in good company, Harold. It seems lots of folks(including some pool pros) enjoy both games. Robert Byrne writes excellent books about both of these competitive games. Several authors actually say the two games (8 ball and chess in particular) are similar in complexity.
As a chess lover you may have already read Aron Nimzovitch"s "My System". Next time you see a copy let me encourage you to look at his table of contents. With a little imagination try to think of 8 ball while reading.
His chess insights are amazing when applied to the strategy of 8 ball!
Give me a PM if you'd like to explore this further.
--Ted in Phoenix
P.S. In photo #1 Reyes is un-castled (and his King is no longer on the back rank!) with no pieces on the opponent side of the table. Korsiak IS castled with several pieces in Reyes territory. Although it's hard to read the pieces, Korsiak seems to have attempted an attack on Reyes' King (which Reyes survived) and now faces a counter-attack. It looks wild and wide open from here, with lots of opportunities for both sides.
As a side note; Reyes is drinking a caffeinated drink -- staying stimulated and Korsiak is drinking a beer -- going the other way.

AzHousePro
02-23-2003, 05:27 PM
Here, see if you can see the board better here...

http://www.azbilliards.com/trump/chess1.jpg

http://www.azbilliards.com/trump/chess2.jpg

AzHousePro
02-23-2003, 05:27 PM
Bigger..

http://www.azbilliards.com/trump/chess3.jpg

Harold Acosta
02-23-2003, 07:31 PM
Mike, those pictures are just great! You've made my day!!

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NH_Steve
02-23-2003, 09:59 PM
Actually, it is One Pocket that is generally likened to a game of chess. One pocket even has the 'opening game', 'middle game' and 'end game' -- plus it has way more strategy than 8-ball ever thought about having /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

landshark1002000
02-24-2003, 11:34 AM
Hi Steve:
You're right of course. One pocket is a very demanding strategic game. I'd just like to see more folks try to play eight ball more strategically. There's a lot of emphasis on the run out in amateur play (especially among players who could use strategy against stronger players --but don't). A missed run out often spells disaster. Thinking more strategically can cut your risks, while challenging your opponent to play risky shots in response.
By the way, I agree about one pocket having three stages too. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif --So does eight ball! But most players think they're always in the end game. (The run out phase.)
--Ted from Phoenix

bluewolf
02-24-2003, 11:39 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote landshark1002000:</font><hr> Hi Steve:
You're right of course. One pocket is a very demanding strategic game. I'd just like to see more folks try to play eight ball more strategically. There's a lot of emphasis on the run out in amateur play (especially among players who could use strategy against stronger players --but don't). A missed run out often spells disaster. Thinking more strategically can cut your risks, while challenging your opponent to play risky shots in response.
By the way, I agree about one pocket having three stages too. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif --So does eight ball! But most players think they're always in the end game. (The run out phase.)
--Ted from Phoenix <hr /></blockquote>

I find one pocket very interesting to watch and am amazed by the strategy and skill.

I also think of 8ball as having a beginning, middle and end but thought it was just me trying to break it down simple so that I could understand /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Laura