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nmshooter
03-09-2003, 04:20 AM
Hi all, I just got out of the hospital. I had gone to the emergency room for something and while there it was discovered that I had Diabetes. I had no idea I had it and when I checked in I had blood sugar levels of 470+. My question is.....do any of you out there have Diabetes and what kind of effect does it have on you, your game, your health while playing in tourneys etc? I dont know much about Diabetes yet but I do know that my vision is blurry and im hoping that will get better as soon as I get the diabetes under control. Any advice, info or comments are welcome. Thanks

PS.......if you wish to remain anonymous, I would welcome private messages.

Rich R.
03-09-2003, 09:07 AM
Although I do not have diabetes myself, there are at least one or two very good players in my area that do. I have observed them at tournaments. It appears they are very careful about what and when the eat. They also take the time to check their blood sugar several times during the day.
In other words, they do everything they should be doing to control their disease. Only they may be a little more careful than the average person on the street with diabetes. I'm sure, if your blood sugar level goes up or down, just a little too much, it would affect your eyesight and your game.
With precautions, it doesn't affect the players I have seen and I don't think it will bother you, as long as you take the proper care.

Rod
03-09-2003, 09:24 AM
It's very important that you see your eye doctor as soon as possible for a complete eye exam. The effects of diabetes can cause blindness. A friend of mine had lazer surgery to shrink a blood vessle that would have broken and caused blindness. Do a google search and read about it. Good luck, I hope all goes well.

Rod

Tom_In_Cincy
03-09-2003, 10:16 AM
nmshooter

My son is a type I and I am a type II diabetic.
Diet, exercise and paying attention to the symptoms of high and low blood sugar conditions is the key to control.

The correct "Food" is the medical key to controlling diabetes. No 'stupid sugars' (Cokes, Candy, ice cream etc.)

During a tournament, if you feel low, drink a juice (orange, cranapple are good drinks)

I've learned to drink diet or sugar free sodas and enjoy them. Free food (non-sugar) like pretzels is also good.
If you want to snack, and have to have a bag of chips, if the calorie content to fat content is less than 50% (cal. 100 fat 40 grams.. ) I have been told that this is an acceptable snack.

I agree about the Opthomologist (not just a optomitrist) visit. Your eyes can get out of whack with sustained high reading. Once you can control you levels, you can start relying on steady vision.

cycopath
03-09-2003, 12:13 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote nmshooter:</font><hr>but I do know that my vision is blurry and im hoping that will get better as soon as I get the diabetes under control.<hr /></blockquote>My sugar was 360 when I was checked for the first time. Blurred vision also. After one Insulin shot my vision cleared within a week. Now it's controlled with half dosage of oral medication and proper diet (which I have a problem keeping proper). Doctor says if I lose weight I'll have no problem at all. I've already quit smoking, and now I have to lose weight too!

nmshooter
03-09-2003, 02:22 PM
Thanks for all the replies so far. My blood sugar is down right now in the 120-160 range. I am watching my diet and taking the pills. I have never been a sweet eater (I hate chocolate) which bugs me even more about getting the disease. I have switched to diet sodas (which were probably my main problem) and will attempt to stop smoking soon also. I dont want to do to much at once if that makes any sense. Ive already changed so many things. I will seek out an opthamologist soon and hopefully I will confident about my vision and thus my game again. Its so depressing when you work so hard on your game and then get these little set backs. Anyway thanks for the replies, hope I hear some more from others.

dddd
03-09-2003, 08:33 PM
i have type 11 and have had it for 10 or more years.
i feel it came on due to weight gain. i had been on pills until i had normal fasting numbers for some time 6 month for example. i went off and held thing in check for some years, with diet and exercise. to me the thing was the exercise. this kept me within bounds.
i have had another too much sugar episode some 6 months ago more or less. i went back and went back on medicine (oral)
to hold the sugar in check.

but for you personally you must understand what it is and what happens to you. know your body and when it is telling you something is out of hand.
the eye doctor visit, it wouldnt do too much good until your blood sugar is back in line, the doctor wouldnt have a real reading of what to do for you. some time after your blood sugar is back in line by all means go visit and check your eyes.
probally you vision will return to normal once your blood sugar is controled.
there again, exercise , diet control (sodas, candy, etc)

playing pool i have no problem to speak of, i drink mostly water and if i play in tournaments which take great deal of time i take some types of food to eat and keep it out in the car.

also remember once you have it you will always have it!

hopefully your type 11 it is quite manageable.
read and understand what you have, what your sugar range is and symptoms of your body not processing sugars properly.

good luck
dennis

bluewolf
03-10-2003, 06:14 AM
Diabetes runs in my family and in Ray's (whitewolf). My mother has a very bad type of type 1. She cannot smoke or drink any alcohol , has to be strict in her diet and takes insulin.

Ray and his mother have type 11

I have the prediabetic type which at this point is dangerously low blood sugar if I do not eat right. I have to eat small meals 6 times a day to feel healthy. Both ww and I have about 30 pounds to lose. When that blood sugar crashes, the most natural thing is to gorge on sweet stuff to pump that sugar back up again.

It is a bad disease. In its worst form it can cause blindness,deafness, kidney failure and all kinds of circulatory problems. There is a correlation between diabetes and heart problems too.

I think that recently ww and I have been 'playin with fire' and are trying to get our act together which means good diet, excercise, no drinking (due to the sugar content in alcoholic beverages) and quit smoking.

There is one more thing. Some sugar free treats contain something called 'sorbitol'. This needs to be avoided because it creates circulatory problems in the diabetic.

High or low sugar can of course cause concentration problems and even blackouts.

When I go to the poolhall to play in apa, the first thing I do is eat something with protein. I keep nabs with me in case I go into a 'slide'

Of the two scenarios, low blood sugar and high blood sugar, low blood sugar, also called 'insulin shock' is a life threatening emergency and as mentioned can be treated with orange juice.

Laura

cycopath
03-10-2003, 02:56 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote bluewolf:</font><hr>When I go to the poolhall to play in apa, the first thing I do is eat something with protein. I keep nabs with me in case I go into a 'slide'
<hr /></blockquote>Me too I keep a pack in my cue case, just in case.

Ralph S.
03-10-2003, 03:40 PM
Hi there. I can relate in a manner of speaking. I am not an actual diabetic, but I do suffer from hypoglycemia. My blood sugar level actually goes low, not high as with most diabetics. Endurance can be a problem if I go too long with out eating a meal. I usually carry some candy in my pocket as well incase my BSL starts dropping.

I can usually tell when that is happening by starting to have feelings of weakness,tiredness, or getting mild shakes. My mother is an actual diabetic and takes an insulin shot every night before bed. She is kind of bad. She experiences the blurry vision you mentioned as well as some monsterous headaches.

Are they going to give you any medication and if so, what type? Just make sure you do as the doctor says and all should be fine. One special note, take very good care of your feet as diabetics have lots of foot problems as their condition becomes more severe over time.

nmshooter
03-10-2003, 04:24 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Ralph S.:</font><hr> Hi there. I can relate in a manner of speaking. I am not an actual diabetic, but I do suffer from hypoglycemia. My blood sugar level actually goes low, not high as with most diabetics. Endurance can be a problem if I go too long with out eating a meal. I usually carry some candy in my pocket as well incase my BSL starts dropping.

I can usually tell when that is happening by starting to have feelings of weakness,tiredness, or getting mild shakes. My mother is an actual diabetic and takes an insulin shot every night before bed. She is kind of bad. She experiences the blurry vision you mentioned as well as some monsterous headaches.

Are they going to give you any medication and if so, what type? Just make sure you do as the doctor says and all should be fine. One special note, take very good care of your feet as diabetics have lots of foot problems as their condition becomes more severe over time. <hr /></blockquote>

Hi, yes I am on medication. They have me on 500mg glucophage. I guess its pretty standard. When I was in the hospital I checked in with 470+ BSL. I have tested for the past week 3 times a day and havent gone over 160 with the average being about 120 or so. I am getting the headaches and the blurry vision which hopefully will get better soon. Ive heard about the feet thing but thanks for mentioning it and replying. Thanks to all for replying. Its good to hear that although the disease is serious, its one I can choose to manage and hopefully my pool game will not suffer much longer from.

Thanks again and best wishes,

Ralph S.
03-10-2003, 04:46 PM
No problem shooter, just glad if I was able to help any.

AzHousePro
03-10-2003, 05:27 PM
I was diagnosed about 18 months ago with type II diabetes and I thought it was the end of the world. I am a programmer and I lived on Mountain Dew to provide my caffeine rush every day that got me started.

I have been on Glucophage and Avandia since then and have gotten the blood sugar levels way down. Learning that Diet Dr Pepper and Pepsi One aren't as bad as I thought they were.

I slide sometimes on the meds but I have been keeping a pretty close eye on things.

On the other hand, my game has been struggling bad for quite some time. I sure hope it has nothing to do with the diabetes.

Mike

SRpool
03-17-2003, 04:20 PM
I am sorry to hear that you have been diagnosed with this horrible disease. I too have Type I diabetes. I was diagnosed 10 years ago when i was 10 years old. with proper care you can easily control it and it will not affect your game too much, but there are times that it sneaks up on you. When that happens you just have to take a break if you can drink some juice or have glucose tablets with you. I recently had a low blood sugar during one of my matches at a Pro tournament, it was difficult to deal with. Also the pressure that you put on yourself while you play may affect your bloodsugar. If you are playing in a tournament and you know you are going to have a tough match eat a half hour to hour ahead of time and be prepared because the pressure may cause it to go up then down very quickly. If you have any questions about anything let me know I will be happy to answer them for you i have dealt with many different situations. Best of luck.

04-12-2003, 07:43 AM
I AM SLOW! JUST FOUND THIS FORUM..ANYWAYS..I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH TYPE II DIABETES IN SEP.OF 1988..I AM ALMOST 48 YRS.OLD NOW..OMG..I PURCHASED MY FIRST POOL CUE IN DEC. OF 1993..A VERY NICE BUT INEXPENSIVE SCHMELKE..I HAD THE EYE AND THE STROKE..AND MY DIABETES WAS UNDER CONTROL ALL THIS TIME ..WELL PRETTY MUCH..HA HA..I PLAYED A FEW WEEKS AND WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE A NICE SCHON WITH MY WINNINGS..I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE REST WAS HISTORY..ONLY IN MY MIND..I MOVED TO TULSA OK. WHERE THE LEVEL OF AWESOME POOL PLAYERS GOES VERY DEEP....I WAS PRETTY MUCH IN THE TOP LEVEL...DURING THESE YEARS UNTIL SUMMER OF 1997 WHEN I QUIT PLAYING IT WAS A WHIRLWIND FOR ME...NO DRINKING..ALL NIGHT MATCHES..PRACTICE 6 HOURS A DAY..MONEY AND ALL THE UPS AND DOWNS THAT GO WITH GAMBLING..THEN ONE DAY I LOOKED AT THE OTHER END OF THE TABLE AND SOMETHING WAS OFF..I DID NOT UNDERSTAND IT..I HAD LOST WEIGHT I WAS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE..OR AS MUCH AS A POOL PLAYER CAN..LOL..WHEN I LOOKED AROUND I SEEN LITTLE BLACK SPOTS IN MY VISION..AND IT WAS NOT THE EIGHT BALL..I PLAYED SOME BUT EVERTHING WAS A LITTLE OFF...I HAD A MANDATORY EYE EXAM ,THE YEARLY THING..AND THE EYE DOC. SAID HE WAS SENDING ME TO A SPECIALIST..WHICH LED ME HAVING LASER TREATMENTS ON BOTH EYES(THE MOST PAINFUL THING I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED)YOU SEE DURING THIS WHIRLWIND TIME .. I HAD IGNORED MY DIABETES..I WAS OUT OF CONTROL! I STILL PLAY TODAY BUT NOT AT THE LEVEL I WAS..I AM NOT LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY..I CHOSE THAT ROAD,I STILL KNOW SOME OF THE BEST IN THE POOL INDUSTRY AND PLAYERS..AND IT IS STILL SO EXCITING TO GET TO TULSA AND WATCH THE BEST ..SOME WHO HAVE MADE IT AND THE UP AND COMINGS..YOU SEE EVEN AFTER THE THREAT OF LOSING MY EYE SIGHT ..MY DIABETES IS STILL OUT OF CONTROL ..IT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR FACTORS OR REASONS THAT I HAD OPEN HEART SURGERY ON FEB 1 2002..AND THE ONLY REASON I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PUT MY NAME ON A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT LIST! SORRY FOR THE LONG STORY..YOU PEOPLE JUST BEING DIAGNOSED OR ARE UNSURE OF WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO HANDLE IT..TALK TO YOUR HEALTH PROFESIONAL..OH..AND NO MATTER IF YOUR SUGAR LEVELS GO HIGH OR LOW IT IS A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION...

MikeM
04-12-2003, 08:52 AM
Musky,

Welcome to the board! Thanks for contributing. Could I ask a favor? Could you please stop SHOUTING? Thanks,

MM