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TomBrooklyn
03-18-2003, 02:39 AM
Despite that I disagree with the Presidents decision to force Saddam Husiwatsits out of his country, now that we are going to war...

Almost no one thinks Iraq will win. When do you think the US will declare victory or Iraq will surrender. The person who guesses closest wins.


I guess May 1.

nAz
03-18-2003, 04:04 AM
March 26 till they stop fighting March 29th till they declare peace?

ahhh what do i know

Rich R.
03-18-2003, 05:06 AM
Although the U.S. will win the war in Iraq and declare victory, the followers of Saddam will continue to terrorize the U.S. and the rest of the planet. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

bluewolf
03-18-2003, 06:18 AM
April 15

But they will never find sad am hussy.

Laura

bluewolf
03-18-2003, 06:22 AM
If congress had not taken power from the cia, a couple of operatives could have gone in a long time ago and sanctioned(assassinated) mr hussy resulting in many saved lives and not had to go to war.

Laura

Wally_in_Cincy
03-18-2003, 07:20 AM
Let's see...

Air attack begins Sat March 22 (1:00 p.m. EST) so everybody can watch on TV.

Ground forces begin to move in a blitzkrieg-like fashion March 23.

3 days to Baghdad. Arrive March 26.

Now it gets sticky. If Saddam is holed up they will surround the city and wait. 2 weeks max.

So I say April 3. Write it down.

eg8r
03-18-2003, 07:32 AM
This is a tough question, I am going to guess...hmmm...May 1. I figured I would go long since everyone is choosing a close date.

I don't think the US will declare a victory until Saddams regime is removed and the re-building process begins.

Funny story...Last week British troops were watching a bunch of Iraqi soldiers running across the desert right at them. When the Iraqi soldiers got close enough, the British soldiers (might have been US, I cannot remember exactly) noticed that the Iraqis had their guns raised above their heads. When the Iraqis got close enough, they were yelling "We Surrender". The British troops sent them back telling them, "You can't surrender if there is no war."

I guess those men will be running in a couple days again, if they were not killed when they got back.

eg8r

TomBrooklyn
04-23-2003, 04:30 PM
The war was over on April 14. Laura, in a stunning demonstration of psychic ability, wins the pool with her guess of April 15, only one day off.

====================


New York Times
Pentagon Asserts the Main Fighting Is Finished in Iraq
By ERIC SCHMITT with BERNARD WEINRAUB

WASHINGTON, April 14 - The Pentagon declared today that major combat
operations in Iraq were over after United States forces took control of
Tikrit, the last bastion of the old government...

Pentagon officials said that there were no plans to attack Syria, and that
the military's focus, now that major combat has ended in Iraq, was to send
some troops home and reposition others in the country for the long-term
mission of making the country stable and secure.

"I would anticipate the major combat engagements are over because the major
Iraqi units on the ground cease to show coherence," said Maj. Gen. Stanley
A. McChrystal, the director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"There will be a requirement for combat power for some period of time," he
added. "But clearly, the requirements for civil affairs, engineer
organizations, military police will be significant."...

With Iraq and its borders still less than secured, Mr. Powell echoed
warnings voiced on Sunday by President Bush, who demanded Syrian cooperation
in tracking down fugitive Iraqi leaders.....

It was unclear today how many troops would remain in Iraq and for how long.
But signs of a shifting mission were already evident, with ground forces
increasingly assuming peacekeeping duties even as combat troops rooted out
remnants of Iraqi military and irregular forces.

That included those Iraqi forces in Tikrit, a major northern city, where the
fierce resistence that American forces had anticipated today largely
evaporated after battles that lasted into the night on Sunday...

Marines in the next few days will relieve a brigade of the 82nd Airborne
Division in southern Iraq, allowing the rapid-response force to head home...

Pentagon officials warned that some of those assignments could change. There
are now 120,000 or so American ground troops in Iraq, and military
officials' estimates of what might be needed in a postwar security force
have ranged from 75,000 to several hundred thousand.

Many combat forces are already leaving the area. Navy officials said today
that two aircraft carriers deployed for the war had received orders to sail
for their home ports, leaving three carrier battle groups within striking
distance of Iraq.

Air Force officials said four B-2's, half a dozen F-117 stealth fighters and
a squadron of F-16C fighters had already flown home. Dozens of the 600 war
planes will leave in the coming weeks, officials said.

In an example of the dangers still facing American forces, two Army soldiers
were killed and two others were injured in a grenade accident at a
checkpoint south of Baghdad today, military officials said. One soldier was
killed and another injured near Baghdad's international airport in an
accidental weapons discharge.

Given the complicated security situation in Iraq, where military forces may
move almost hourly between zones of high threat and areas of relative calm,
commanders have not yet ordered a change in the rules of engagement from
those that guided forces at the height of the war, a senior Pentagon
official said today.

Some senior commanders in Iraq complained, however, that the military was
shifting from combat to peacekeeping too quickly, under pressure from
Washington.

Senior military officers defended their handling of security in Baghdad as
troops moved into the city last week. They argued that some looting was a
natural result of the citizenry's pent-up anger toward Mr. Hussein's
government, and that commanders did not have enough forces to put troops
everywhere while combat operations continued. "Over next week, the situation
will dramatically improve," a senior officer predicted.

Mr. Powell promised to help rebuild the city's National Museum and recover
stolen Mesopotamian treasures. "The United States understands its
obligations and will be taking a leading role with respect to antiquities in
general, but this museum in particular," Mr. Powell said.

Clerics have helped to maintain order in cities like Najaf and Karbala. But
it has been more difficult elsewhere, where coalition forces are conducting
joint patrols with Iraqi police officers who have returned to their jobs.

General McChrystal said the coalition was still in the "organizational
phase" of identifying and vetting a credible civilian police force in
Baghdad. "This will be a long process," he said.

About 300 of the "Free Iraqi Fighters" operating under the command of
American Special Operations forces swept Shatra in recent days, uncovering a
large cache of French-made antitank missiles and rounding up a number of
fedayeen fighters identified by local residents, a senior Defense Department
official said today.

The 300 Iraqis were part of a 700-member force that deployed near Nasiriya
just over a week ago. They have been armed with captured weapons and
American military equipment, the official said.

9 Ball Girl
04-23-2003, 10:23 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote TomBrooklyn:</font><hr> The war was over on April 14. <hr /></blockquote>

War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh

War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y'all

War! huh good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

Ohhh? War! I despise
Because it means destruction?
Of innocent lives

War means tears
to thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to fight
and lose their lives

I said - War! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

War! Whoa, Lord ...
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War! Friend only to the undertaker
War! It's an enemy to all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind

War has caused unrest in the younger generation
Induction then destruction-
Who wants to die?

Ohhh? War Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it, Say it, Say it

War! Uh-huh Yeah - Huh!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War! It's got one friend, that's the undertaker
War has shattered many a young mans dreams
Made him disabled bitter and mean
Life is much to precious to spend fighting wars these days
War can't give life, it can only take it away

War! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

War! Whoa, Lord ...
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

War! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War! Friend only to the undertaker
Peace Love and Understanding;
tell me, is there no place for them today?
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way

War! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
You tell me
Say it, Say it, Say it

War! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Stand up and shout it.
Nothing!

bluewolf
04-24-2003, 04:30 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote TomBrooklyn:</font><hr> The war was over on April 14. Laura, in a stunning demonstration of psychic ability, wins the pool with her guess of April 15, only one day off.

<hr /></blockquote>

Mini Haha. I thought you did not believe in that woowoo stuff. "Psychics" have been trying to predict this stuff including renkowned astrologers for eons. They are nearly always wrong. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Laura

bluewolf
04-24-2003, 04:35 AM
April 15? You say Tom. Just a guess.

I think USA should get out and not cram democracy down their thoats. Now that sad am hussy is ousted or dead and all his group are run out, no reason to stay to make them have our kind of government, our kind of culture.

Laura

Wally_in_Cincy
04-24-2003, 06:42 AM
I think I should receive a consolation prize for my logical and reasoned thoughts. I did not simply guess. What does that prove? /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> Let's see...

Air attack begins Sat March 22 (1:00 p.m. EST) so everybody can watch on TV.

<font color="blue">Actually March 26 </font color>

Ground forces begin to move in a blitzkrieg-like fashion March 23.

<font color="blue">Called it right, missed the date by 4 days </font color>

3 days to Baghdad. Arrive March 26.

Now it gets sticky. If Saddam is holed up they will surround the city and wait. 2 weeks max.

<font color="blue">Took 7 days to mop up the "elite" Republican Guard </font color>

So I say April 3. Write it down.

<font color="red">I hope nobody wrote that down /ccboard/images/graemlins/tongue.gif </font color>

<hr /></blockquote>

TomBrooklyn
07-04-2003, 05:59 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote TomBrooklyn:</font><hr> The war was over on April 14. Laura wins the pool with her guess of April 15
====================
New York Times. Washington, April 14 - The Pentagon declared today that major combat operations in Iraq were over...<hr /></blockquote>Correction. At the time of the above announcement, the NYT was the most authoritative source known to have declared an end to the war. However, President Bush superceeds the NY Times and he declared that the end of major hostilities occured on May 1.

So who predicted the correct date most closely? Oh, it was me! I hit it on the head. Eg8r picked May 1 also. A tie for first. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif =TB

TomBrooklyn
07-04-2003, 06:06 PM
Now who wants to guess when the last US Troop will leave Iraq by the time this international political fiasco and homeland fiscal disaster is over? I will guess May 1, 2013.
=TomBk

eg8r
07-04-2003, 06:32 PM
Well, since being newly crowned co-winner /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif , I will guess again. This time I guess our troops will leave Iraq, never. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif This will probably be like Germany or other countries where we will always be around.

eg8r

Hopster
07-04-2003, 11:56 PM
Well, since being newly crowned co-winner , I will guess again. This time I guess our troops will leave Iraq, never. This will probably be like Germany or other countries where we will always be around. &lt;--Eg8r

Yeah only thing is in other countries they dont constantly shoot at our guys like theyre doing now. But its to be expected as we didnt really expect them to be gracious losers.
I really hope no one else from our side has to die. I get sick every day when i hear on the news our boys got hit again.

eg8r
07-05-2003, 07:24 AM
Yes, it sucks and I feel bad for their families. I am not sure how long any of this will take, but I am pretty sure the Saddam loyalists are not going to stop in 18 months. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif We will be there longer I am sure of it.

eg8r

cheesemouse
07-05-2003, 01:45 PM
Hopster,

I think it will be a long time, perhaps the beginning of our '100 years war'....here's an interesting read:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DI28Ak03.html

highsea
07-05-2003, 02:24 PM
Thanks, Cheese.

Even though that article is a year old, I think it sums up the situation very succinctly.

-CM