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Barbara
05-02-2003, 10:27 AM
I need input on this.

I foolishly subscribed to something a while back from my PC at work. I started getting spammed the next day. I was furious because, first of all, I work for a company that is contracted by the government, and secondly, my company monitors our email and web site use very closely. So getting emails about how to enlarge this and that or meeting lonely married persons in your area does not thrill me in the least. I usually end up deleting this mail without even opening it.

In the very beginning I used to follow the spammer's instructions to get unsubscribed, but then someone told me that's how they verify your email address and you'll just get more.

It's getting worse and worse. What should I do?

TIA.

Barbara

Kato
05-02-2003, 10:54 AM
Change your e-mail address or ask them to remove you from the e-mail server for a week. When the mail gets returned to them they will quit e-mailing you.

Kato

Barbara
05-02-2003, 11:02 AM
Kato,

I can't ask them to remove me from the server because I have to get my business emails. Getting a new email address is like pulling teeth around here.

We use Lotus Notes and I can't block anyone. /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Barbara

Amanda
05-02-2003, 11:03 AM
Barbara,
I work in the IT field and run mail servers. What your mail administrator(s) need to do is setup spam filters. There are centralized databases of known spam domains that it can update from automatically so the mail servers reject all conections from the problem systems.
As for getting them to stop sending it? Good luck, once they have your name there is not a whole lot you can except for setting up filters on your mail client to auto delete some things

Amanda

heater451
05-02-2003, 11:09 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Barbara:</font><hr> . . .In the very beginning I used to follow the spammer's instructions to get unsubscribed, but then someone told me that's how they verify your email address and you'll just get more.

It's getting worse and worse. What should I do?

TIA.

Barbara <hr /></blockquote>Although I'm sure that it's true, that many spammers use 'Unsubscribe' links to verify @ddresses, I believe that some of them are on the level. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly how to tell which ones are good, but I think that the ones that have a more professional look, and especially the ones that mention something about being under 'such-and-such' act are okay.

Since you've mentioned the "enlargement" and "meet lonely married people" ones, which tend to be a couple of lines of text, w/o any unsubscribe (and probably wouldn't be safe in any case), you're best option is to try any blocking of addresses, if possible, through your email application.

Sorry, that I can't be more helpful. The only other thing that I could suggest, would be to find the @ddresses for government bodies, and then sign them up for spam, until someone passes a law or something (and I'm not even the pro-legislative type!).



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Barbara
05-02-2003, 11:19 AM
amanda,

Lotus Notes has a "Rules" action that can direct unwanted mail right to my Trash folder. I'll check this out.

Thanks!

Barbara~~~never, ever, ever, ever, ever again!

Barbara
05-02-2003, 11:21 AM
In the beginning I tried the "unsubscribe" button and at one time the spamming came in at only 1 or two emails a day, but then it escalated again and I get about 5 a day now.

Ugh!

Barbara

bluewolf
05-02-2003, 12:13 PM
I also keep getting these popups aand an occasional message to the effect that 'if you buy our software, you wont get these anymore'. Also being spammed.

Laura

Fran Crimi
05-02-2003, 12:33 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Kato:</font><hr> Change your e-mail address or ask them to remove you from the e-mail server for a week. When the mail gets returned to them they will quit e-mailing you.

Kato <hr /></blockquote>

Kato, I think once you're in their database, your in. It's automated and there's no one on the other end to bother with the messages that come back. I have a separate e-mail address for shopping, and the spam was getting out of hand so I blocked all e-mails coming in and set up another address for shopping. Six months later I unblocked the first e-mail address and the spam came right back like it never left.

Fran

heater451
05-02-2003, 12:42 PM
Lotus Notes Rules may have to run as agents, and might be more trouble to set up than they are worth. Plus, an agent probably has to be set against either an individual or a domain, and won't really help against auto-generated sender @ddresses, and you probably wouldn't want to block any large domains that friends may mail from, such as Yahoo!, mindspring, etc..

Adding to Amanda's post, you're Notes Admin might be able to help. Lotus Domino 6 (server) supposedly had some built-in spamfighting function. Unfortunately, I don't have any more detail than that.


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Fran Crimi
05-02-2003, 12:45 PM
Barbara, I think that everybody gets spammed these days, even at work. You can't be expected by your employer to have access to the web and not use it. Don't you think that other employees in your company are getting spammed too? You don't even have to subscribe to something to get spammed. Half the time just visiting a website will do it, and the spam doesn't have to have anything to do with that website. I don't know whether the spammers track certain websites but it sure seems that way.

I think the only way to really get rid of them is to do what AOL is doing...take them to court, one at a time.

Fran

WaltVA
05-02-2003, 12:47 PM
Barbara -FWIW, I found that spam volume went up after the couple of times I tried to unsubscribe; since then I just delete it, and it's dropped off. Filtering with the "Rules" section of your E-mail program sounds like your best bet in the long run.

Walt in VA

Kato
05-02-2003, 01:26 PM
Hmmmmm. Not the first time I've been wrong and I wouldn't be suprised if it's my imagination. I still get spammed at will here at work but at least I don't get the porn. I'd rather get "enlargement", "singles in Evansville", "pots and pans" whatever than "farm animals" and "barely legal teens". We've got something here on Outlook that I highlight an e-mail and hit block, seems to block lots of stuff but more stuff gets through.

Fran, I'm guessing since you shop at home then the places you shop sell your name? That is something I'd love to avoid.

Kato~~~don't like SPAM in a can or SPAM in a computer.

Amanda
05-02-2003, 01:35 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote bluewolf:</font><hr> I also keep getting these popups aand an occasional message to the effect that 'if you buy our software, you wont get these anymore'. Also being spammed.

Laura <hr /></blockquote>
Are you referring to web page popups? If so there are programs you can download to stop that from happening. If its message box popups through windows thats another issue and you can turn that service off by following these steps.

1. Click on Start ---- Settings ----- Control Panels
2. Double click on Administrative Tools
3. Double click on Services
4 Scroll down the right side of the screen until you find Messenger
5. Right click on Messenger and click on Properties
6. Under start up type change it to disabled.
7. Click on the Stop button right below that then click OK

No more annoying windows message popups.

Amanda

eg8r
05-02-2003, 02:04 PM
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or ask them to remove you from the e-mail server for a week. <hr /></blockquote> Ha, I would love to tell the people at work to take me off the mail server. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif That would go over real well. LOL I have set up rules in Outlook. The first time I did it, it got all screwed up, but it works "better" now. I only get about 10 spam a day.

eg8r

stickman
05-02-2003, 02:58 PM
Barbara, There is a free download named Mail Washer that works pretty good. I have used it before when someone signed my name up to several porn sites. You open the program, and your mail is filtered through the program. You have the option of bouncing the e-mail back, blocking or accepting. The nice thing about bouncing it back is that it appears to the sender that they have an invalid address. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif