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Sid_Vicious
05-21-2003, 03:14 PM
I've noticed that people are different in how that express their wins against opponents, some say, "I beat him" where others say "I won the game(set)", and it caused me to speculate whether this defines his/her character a little, possibly even his future success or lack of success. I personally can't say as I remember ever saying that "I beat" anyone, I either won or lost. Maybe I lose a little more often cuz I'm not out to beat the other guy, but it simply is not in my mind to have that urge,,,to beat sounds bullyish and brash(IMO.) JM2C sid

Tom_In_Cincy
05-21-2003, 03:31 PM
Sid,
Interesting point.

There are definetly players I refer to as "Beating them" and not "I won the game or match"

Childish? maybe.. it is a game.. I have to have some fun playing...

I don't ever recall loosing a match and telling my opponent "you beat me" (so I guess its one sided)

I try my best to play the table and not my opponent, but thisn't that easy to do with some of my matches. There are the matches with these players (men and women) that I bear down a little more on safeties, and love to see them squirm.

Sometimes I can be very mean.. LOL.

Rod
05-21-2003, 04:17 PM
Intresting thought Sid. I don't know what it all really means. I'd guess your on to something though. Usually I just say I won but there are those "special times" that I not only beat him but I kicked his ass!! Then there are those times when I stuck it in and broke it off!!!!!!
Doing the Tiger pump behind the scene here. LOL

snipershot
05-21-2003, 04:31 PM
When playing against my friends I always say "I kicked his a$$" just to rub it in on them /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif but they know that I'm just kidding around. Against someone who doesn't know me I usually just say that I won. Also, I never go around saying this I only say it if someone asks, I don't like to brag if I win I just smile and keep shooting.

Chris

UWPoolGod
05-21-2003, 04:34 PM
For the sake of quickness I guess if you are talking to a friend about having played and "bested" someone, you can't really say "I won him"...it is too long to say "yeah, ya see that guy over there...I played him and won."

Todd

nAz
05-21-2003, 05:17 PM
Hmm never thought of this before, i guess after i win a match in tourney or money I usally act like it was really difficult whether it was or not and say i got lucky and won my match, when i play with a buddy and i win, i do the Icky shuffle /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

dg-in-centralpa
05-21-2003, 06:38 PM
Sid - It depends on who I am playing. If it is someone I don't get along with and I beat them badly, "I cleaned his clock", "I took him to school" or "I crushed him", and "I wiped his a$$ all over the table".

pooldaddy9
05-21-2003, 08:31 PM
If anyone asks me how I played, I will say - I kicked butt tonight but I don't rub it in the way they do when I lose.

9 Ball Girl
05-21-2003, 09:17 PM
Sometimes the big smile on my face says it all. But I usually just say, "I won" or I'll give a thumbs up to the TD. However, depending on who I played, I do say, "I beat him/her". But never in front of the opponent.

UWPoolGod
05-21-2003, 09:30 PM
Yeah if announcing the win to the tourney director I'll give a "I got that" to him.

eg8r
05-22-2003, 05:55 AM
I think you might be on to something.

Myself on the other hand, if in a tournament I will walk up to the TD and nod my head, if I don't know the TD then I will say I got it or I won.

When playing with friends I will say I whupped ya, or you lose. I usually will not say I beat someone, but once when playing onepocketchamp (rackmup was sitting watching) I was a little zealous in my victory dance and told OPC "You suck." LOL That has not happened since and I surely hope I did not offend OPC. He did take it well and I was only meaning it as a joke.

eg8r

Fred Agnir
05-22-2003, 06:19 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Sid_Vicious:</font><hr> I've noticed that people are different in how that express their wins against opponents, some say, "I beat him" where others say "I won the game(set)", and it caused me to speculate whether this defines his/her character a little, possibly even his future success or lack of success. I personally can't say as I remember ever saying that "I beat" anyone, I either won or lost. Maybe I lose a little more often cuz I'm not out to beat the other guy, but it simply is not in my mind to have that urge,,,to beat sounds bullyish and brash(IMO.) JM2C sid <hr /></blockquote>
I guess it all depends on the game, the meaning, the phase of the moon. I've used all of these, and then some:

Crushed him
Rolled over him
Got that one
Squeaked by
Got lucky
Played good enough to win
Got the "W"
Through to the next round
Still in it (still in the winner's)

Fred &lt;~~~ usually does a big fist pump, lets out a "yeah, baby!" and finishes with the Cabbage Patch.

Wally_in_Cincy
05-22-2003, 06:46 AM
I say "I got lucky" because that's usually the case.

There are rare occasions when I shoot exceptionally well and I'll say "I thumped him" or "I drilled him" but only if it's the truth and only after either he or I has left the venue. Don't like to rub it in because we will probably play again someday.

Sid_Vicious
05-22-2003, 07:08 AM
Thanks for all the answers. My post really began due to as an observation I made here while reading the Chalk Board over time. It is sometimes as frequent it seems for somebody here to describe their prowess in a past match by defining it as beating the other player. I know there are cut-up friends here horsing around poking fun at someone we all may know, I do that too, but I'm talking about the casual day-after description with "I beat'em" this game and "I beat'em" that game. It was the second hand description I was looking to analyze, but the first person responses was very interesting as well. Thanks...sid

Michelle
05-22-2003, 10:55 AM
I get a kick out of a friend of mine, whenever he tells stories about beating some punk really bad...it's always "I smoked him!"

Deeman
05-22-2003, 11:03 AM
"I tortured him, I bar-be-qued him, I crushed him" or "he got all the rtolls and I lost!" /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

dave
05-23-2003, 01:18 PM
This may or may not relate to your original question. It took me many years to remove ego from my game and the notion that a win or a loss was a reflection on my, or the other person's, character and abilities. When I finally was able to remove ego and its attendant emotions, I found my game elevated. Now, after a match, I simply thank the other player for the games and tell them I enjoyed the chance to play them. If I'm talking to someone else, I simply state that I either won or lost , without excuses or bragging. At some point it stopped being false humility and became a true appreciation of the shared experience; which made my life a lot more pleasant and the game fun again.

bluewolf
05-23-2003, 08:13 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Sid_Vicious:</font><hr> I've noticed that people are different in how that express their wins against opponents, some say, "I beat him" where others say "I won the game(set)", and it caused me to speculate whether this defines his/her character a little, possibly even his future success or lack of success. <hr /></blockquote>

I shake the other person's hand and say 'that was a really close match, I really enjoyed playing with you' or 'we both played a really good match, gosh was that close!'

If they are bit**y, I do the perfunctory shake hands and say 'good match'.

Even if I rolled over them, I dont want to make them feel bad, so I usually compliment them in some way.

Laura

cycopath
05-23-2003, 09:41 PM
Actually this last week I told the guy at the end of our match. "Damn, we both played like [censored]." But in the end I got lucky.

Sid_Vicious
05-23-2003, 10:04 PM
Same here, many times that is...sid

05-23-2003, 10:39 PM
well, 95% of the time i'll just good game, weather i lose or win, but if their talkin trash, then i'll just crack a smirk and ask if they would like to play again, but for the most part, am a very respectable guy with great sports-manship, i guess some people just handle situations differently.

Hopster
05-24-2003, 03:30 PM
Well i never beat anyone so at least i got all these goodlines to think about for the day that i do win. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Reminds me of a story from the casino: This guy was a cuistomer who had been going there for years, on the last day of his trip the dice get hot and he catches a freight train. Hes got all these chips in front of him and a confused look on his face, The pit boss says to him Arent you going to go to the cage and cash out ?
The guy says " Wheres the cage ? The boss says "Youre coming here all these years and and you dont know where the cage is ?"
The guy says " Ive never had occasion to go there before"

Ross
05-25-2003, 11:30 AM
This is not directly an answer to your question but it is related.

Do you know players who make it a habit of casually mentioning -- out of the blue -- that they "played a match with joe blow the other day." No details follow - instead there is this expectant pause.

You know they are fishing for you to ask them how they did because they want to tell you how they beat the guy, but don't want to be so obvious about their bragging. It's funny to me, because the ruse is so obvious. But being a socially accommodating fellow, I usually go along with my assigned role so they can tell me how they crushed the guy or whatever. But I'm often tempted to not ask them about the match just to watch them squirm. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

How do you handle this, or does this just happen around my pool hall?