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tateuts
06-19-2003, 08:33 PM
GNA can't beat guys playing with Meucci's. Seems they ream him all the time.

Here was his post and my advice:

Quote gna:
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I don't play with a meucci but since you are a dealer maybe you can clear something up. I have played in number of rooms over the years where they were the cue. I have been beaten and cleaned out more than once by somebody using one.
I always assumed it was a top cue. Why does all the people on these boards beat it to death, try and tell me why, and is this deserved and again why? Thank you, give it up from an expert on the subject, if you dare sing like a canary?
The ice Mon
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Ice Mon,

Frankly, I'll be as tactful as possible when I say it's simply because you're a really crappy player.

Those guys don't need Meucci's to beat you - that's like using a shotgun on a butterfly.

At your level, you should be looking for people playing with WAL-Mart sticks with two-tone red and bright green nylon wrap, 11mm shafts made out of yellow chinese pine, a "chinese pro" straight taper, and decals that say "TURBO-CHARGED" and "BONZAI" on the side.




What do you think GNA needs to do to improve his game??

highsea
06-20-2003, 10:08 AM
I have to admit, gna has me speculating.
I remembered the ice mon tag from somewhere else, so I searched the posts on playpool. There were 3 posts, all of them posted in very energetic defense of FL. No posts on any other topics.

I did a search on CCB for posts by gna, and reread his posts since he started posting here. He started out friendly to the board, with lots of advice on any topic you cared to ask about. He sounded like someone with lots of experience who wanted to share it with the younger players. He occasionally dropped a complimentary remark about FL, mentioned that he had a lesson from FL recently, pointed out several of FL's famous accomplishments, etc., always kind of offhand to the post, but there.

In the last couple of days, his posts have turned kind of nasty. Calling the board a "bunch of beginners", "kiddies", etc. See the "Your money vs. Backer's Money" thread.

This post about the Meucci is rather strange, coming from a "pro" like gna, and I recalled that FL also is a big defender of Meucci's, plays with one, thinks they are the "only" cue to use.

I thought I would look for "Ice Mon" over on AZ, and see if I could find any similarities, but apparently he has never posted there. Of course, AZ is the only place FL can post openly, so....

Am I seeing "black helicopters?"

-CM

06-20-2003, 10:49 AM
Been saying it all along, Highsea. Even though he has tried to camouflage WHAT he says, he can't cover up HOW he says things. Like bluewolf said elsewhere, it's difficult to cover up your writing style. No doubt in my mind as to the true identity of "gna".

Wally_in_Cincy
06-20-2003, 12:29 PM
One thing he has changed is the length of his posts, if not the tone. I'm willing to go along with the charade if it saves me from reading a 2500 word redundant diatribe.

Wally~~thinks the Emporer's new clothes are just dandy /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

06-20-2003, 12:44 PM
Same here, Wally. I really didn't mind FL's posts except for when they are absurdly long and unformatted, when they attacked someone else, or when he was bragging about his umpteen world records and 22nd degree black belt. Which now that I think about it, was about 95% of his posts.

However, inside that other 5% of posts, there WERE some good pool stories and information to be shared. Too bad his writing style was so abrasive, he could have been a positive contributor.

If creating new aliases to post under is his way of learning his lesson and trying to contribute to the board, then I have no problem with it. That is, until he reverts to his old style -- which gna seems to be doing. Maybe it's time for an alias change so he can start fresh again. I dunno, maybe take on a girl's persona, something like a 20-year old girl from Texas with a penchant for pies? /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

tateuts
06-20-2003, 12:50 PM
What pissed me off is when he referred to sid_vicious as "son".

His knowledge is 1960's stuff.

Chris

bluewolf
06-20-2003, 12:52 PM
Am okay with anyone who is nice and even some who arent nice sometimes. And yes it is hard to change your writing style, even for a professional.

bw

bluewolf
06-20-2003, 12:57 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr> What pissed me off is when he referred to sid_vicious as "son".

His knowledge is 1960's stuff.

Chris <hr /></blockquote>

Well i am not defending him, just to say well he is like a granddad, he calls me 'grasshopper', which I whink is a term of endearment or some zen thing. LOL

Wally_in_Cincy
06-20-2003, 01:36 PM
LOL. If he wants to be liked, after all, everybody doesn't like something, but nobody doesn't like .....

highsea
06-20-2003, 01:36 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote bluewolf:</font><hr> Well i am not defending him, just to say well he is like a granddad, he calls me 'grasshopper', which I whink is a term of endearment or some zen thing. LOL <hr /></blockquote>

I have a lot of respect for the things Larry has done on a pool table. I think he would be both informative and entertaining if he could learn to leave the hostility out of his posts.

He has a big chip on his shoulder for Eric, and whatever happened that day, it would have been long forgotten by now if FL would've just let it go.

It only took about 5 days for "gna" to become rude to the CCB in his writings. You can't really expect to get a positive response from people if you are condescending, call them "son" and "kiddies" and "a bunch of beginners".

I hope he does better this time around. I also hope he backs off with the CCB criticism over on AZ. It only serves to make him look petulant.

And, Larry, when you read this, how about sharing some of your knowledge in a productive way? Set up a few simple trick shots on the WEI table and challenge the board to make them. I think that would be fun.

Give us a (not too lengthy) funny or interesting story or two about some of the old timers that guys like me will never meet. A little history of the game. I would enjoy that.

Cheers,
Casey in Seattle

bluewolf
06-20-2003, 05:27 PM
He called me 'grasshopper' in his emails to me.GNA,amgine and a couple of others were all mixed up in my mind as they seemed to show up about the same time and I only noticed the real rude one, amgine. As far as calling someone son, it is a testy thing what one finds offensive and one does not. I go more by the intentions than the words spoken. And as for sid or anybody else, they all look like good pool players from where I sit. So all I have to say 'bout that.

Laura

06-20-2003, 07:33 PM
That guy is just too smart for you guys

Qtec
06-20-2003, 08:28 PM
Highsea , I must confess, i have been lurking over at az.Everybody seems to love to talk about this guy FL so I thought i would check him out .
Somebody had signed in as Tiger Woods and somebody else was wondering if he was the real TW . As if! Anyway , FL claimed that he could tell it was the real TW by posing a set of questions about the course at Augusta ,which "only he and Tiger " could answer!
Whats funny is that the answer he gave to one of his own questions was wrong . When the next post pointed this out ,I was interested in his reply, but the thread has been deleted . Anybody know what happened ?
Q

highsea
06-20-2003, 08:59 PM
OMG! Not AZ! Just kidding. I go there too. /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I saw the TW thread, apparently Mike thought it was too controversial?.

Who can say...Maybe he was trying to keep FL from putting his foot back in his mouth, I don't know...

-CM

06-20-2003, 10:27 PM
HOWDY PARTNERS, AH SUCKS, IM JUST A BIG OLD COUNTRY BOY AND I DID NOT MEAN TO UP SET YOU BONKERROOS. I AM ON 352 ON THE WAY TO MESQUITE AND I BLOW THE CLUTH IN MY PICKEM UP TRUCK. I HAVE TO WALK HOME, COME IN HOT AND TIRED AND MY OLD LADY HAD DRUNK UP ALL OF MY COORS. i was not havin a very good day. I guess I got on the one eyed devil and took it out on some poor kid. Son, I realize you are only a 4 and not a 6 like me, so them 2nd place trophies probably mean sometin to you. Im sorry if I made fun of them. I'll try to be nicer in the future, it was sure nice of you people to give me all of that free advice. You'all want me to draw sometin on the wei, whats a wei, and if I find out what, draw what, answer what. even if i figure it out, i aint to whippy on these computers, i need help to send emails. I promise to try and whip up sometin for you nice people, just tell me what you want to know. why do you want to know sometin from just a league player like me, when you got all those smart people there like fred and scott, they forgot more than i can every learn.
The ice Mon

06-20-2003, 10:34 PM
Qtec,i saw that post on the golf thing, it was a trap and a very clever one, he said the first par 3 on amen corner and asked the name of the 11th hole. Old Paco comes along and names it, Later he came back and said see you dont know, the 1st par 3 is the 12th, and he named the width of the green only he and tiger could know about. He drilled the guy, it was very cool, but the post was pulled before any one could read it, once he ambused the guy, he got nasty, so the thread was pulled. some people just cant stand gettin out smarted. Me, I dont have that problem, I aint smart enough to out smart my horse. I know you are goin to ask, the name of my horse is horse, and the name of my woman is woman, the name of my dog is dog, the name of my cow is cow. you see my life is a simple one. The Ice mon

06-21-2003, 12:20 AM
Like I said, I was not havin a very good day, my old lady Annie is from Bayou Cane and she drinks a bit. I come home and she has finished off my last case of coors and drained my bottle of wild turkey. I was plannin on a boiler maker and ended up with a diet coke, now do you see how I wuz so steamed up. She finally sobers up and finds out i wuz not a good person, so she whips the good book on me so I will do right in the future. I attach that, in case any of you may need some future guidance when your old lady drinks up all of your booze and you want to kill her too.
The Ice mon
The Ten Commandments in Caiun...
(Keeps it Real Simple)

1. God is number one...and das' All.
2. Don't pray to nuttin' or nobody...jus' God.
3. Don't cuss nobody... "specially da Good Lord.
4. When it be Sunday... pass yo'self by God's House.
5. Yo mama an' yo daddy dun did it all...lissen to dem.
6. Killin' duck an' fish, das' OK...people - NO!
7. God done give you a wife...sleep wit' jus' her.
8. Don't take nobody's boat...or nuttin'else.
9. Don't go wantin' somebody's stuff.
10. Stop lyin'...yo tongue gonna fall out you mouf!

She says I violated 3 &amp; 10 and I am goin to grand isle if i dont shape up. You'll now get off my back now ya hear, you got gator annie on me, so you all can move on now hear.
The ice mon

bolo
06-21-2003, 12:30 AM
If the post was pulled before anyone could read it, how do you know what it said. Larry, your a real sick guy, and I am afraid it looks like you are back. I was lurking back when you were posting but now that you are back I may go back to lurking, your too nuts for me. I have met you and can attest to the fact you are a psycho

bluewolf
06-21-2003, 03:15 AM
I frequent that site(AZ in addition to CCB) more and more. I know what happened to that thread. It began to turn nasty and the admin deleted it or removed. It(az) is totally different from ccb. It is tightly controlled, flames kept to a very minimum, smalller than ccb.When a forum starts to turn unfriendly, for lack of better words, the admin steps in and takes one of various actions.

Two completely different forums with different atmospheres.

It is impossible to compare the two, really. Like apples and oranges.

I do not want to try to define either place, since words on the internet are frquently inadequate and somebody would misinterpret what I am trying to say. The two forums are different, depends on what one likes, that is why there is more than one forum, because people have different tastes

Laura

highsea
06-21-2003, 04:42 AM
I guess this on speaks for itself. /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

CM&lt;~~~wasn't seeing black helicopters after all!

06-21-2003, 05:39 AM
As if I wasn't already convinced...

...now there's no question. /ccboard/images/graemlins/mad.gif

06-21-2003, 09:10 AM
SEEMS LIKE LARRY REALLY STUCK HIS FOOT IS HIS MOUTH ON THAT GOLF THREAD. HE LOOKED SO SILLY! AGAIN.

Qtec
06-21-2003, 09:52 AM
Laura , what was nasty about it ?. Who got nasty .? The last post i seen was paco and all it said was , some thing like , par 3 hole 12 and that was it .Plenty of people must have seen it ,so tell us the goodies .I am asking because i know he [ FL ] was wrong .I wanted to see what his reply would be .What was the reply ?
Q

tateuts
06-21-2003, 10:08 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote YappingWolf:</font><hr> SEEMS LIKE LARRY REALLY STUCK HIS FOOT IS HIS MOUTH ON THAT GOLF THREAD. HE LOOKED SO SILLY! AGAIN. <hr /></blockquote>

Crapping Wolf,

I am a little confused about all these Wolves, and why you don't like Laura and the Whitewolf , assuming, of course, you don't like Laura and Whitewolf.

Would you kindly explain to me what is going on here?

I'm having a little trouble following it because I am sane.

Are you friend or foe? Or are you the baby wolf? Did she do something to you?


Chris

bluewolf
06-21-2003, 10:29 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Laura , what was nasty about it ?. Who got nasty .? The last post i seen was paco and all it said was , some thing like , par 3 hole 12 <hr /></blockquote>

Like i said, that site, once they set up the new software, is more tightly administrated. As far as what exactly was perceived by the administrator as less than desirable in that thread, to warrant having it taken down, I would be speculating.

Mike of AZ is trying to do a good job, for all practical purposes, it is a new site. I would write to him for specifics because I do not want to speak for him on exactly why he made the decision he did.

Laura

Wally_in_Cincy
06-21-2003, 11:19 AM
I just read that thread at AZB about cleaning balls. FL insists you should not clean your balls, Mr. Bludworth says you should. bluewolf sticks her head in every other post and either defends FL or says "I'm staying outta this" /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Meanwhile FL posts under the pseudonym "tshot" and defends himself. Turns out FL's wife is named Sarah. Wonder if that's Sarah Lee.

Wally~~sorry...I'll stop now...promise. I just thought it was funny.

bluewolf
06-21-2003, 11:46 AM
Don't forget

Blud and Larry decide to be friends
Larry invites Blud out for a beer
Blud invites Bluewolf and Whitewolf to visit..

... /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
06-21-2003, 12:16 PM
Personally I like blud's quote to FL "I've never heard of you" /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

bolo
06-21-2003, 12:33 PM
What does any of this have to do with pool? From what I see, your friend Larry shows up again and it took no more then a few days for the board to go straight into the toilet, with a plenty of help from you. Does your whole life revolve around posting to these various boards?

06-21-2003, 12:52 PM
Wally, you left off what Larry said back, that's Ok, I've never heard of you too. Like I said before I was at a furniture convention where he was selling tables, teaching and doing shots. I dug his card out and called him up. I asked him these questions. He swears on a stack of bibles he's never done a post under Tshot and was not that nutty amguime. He said that guy came in to make you think it was him hurtin his name, just to rag you all out. He does not know who had it in for youall but he said he does not have problems now with any of you and wishes he had not made an ass of himself. he said he hopes some day they let him return, but he figues hes banned for life. he said thats ok, hes been kicked out of many casinos bars and pool halls before, they didnt break no cheery was his reply. He says hes been a good boy over on the other board and a lot of his problems here was mistaken identity and you all were calling him a liar and a fraud and he got mad at youall and a dog fight broke out over it. He said if you want to read his posts go into that other board hes on. He said to ask Bolo if he is a medical doctor, and if he does not have a degree in this field, he is not qualified to call any one a psycho and should refrain from that. hE SAID IT AINT NICE TO HIDE behind your computer and call people bad names, that aint whut a real man does, only cowards do that. There goes you'alls mob mentality, you all begin to act like a wolfpack and chase somebody down and eat them alive. Let that boy alone, he aint hurtin nobody. He has a damn dog that runs the table also, I bet the dog would take a lot of you guys out for $20 a rack. I heard the dog beat 4 top ranked females on the ladies tour at the Hopkins 2 years ago, now none of them will go near that furry run out wolf wolf, ruff ruff. He is a boy dog. girls, where i come from, if you cant beat a coon dog at sometin simple like playin pool, you got a problem. I though you all were gonna ask me some techi question and draw sometin, did you chicken out or what. I aint as smart as fred and scott and cincy and all those high falutin educated teachers you all got here, but Ill take a stab at it. I got old gator annie on the wagon and shes bein mean as a snake. I got her hog tied in the back of my trailor and I aint lettin her loose until she gets off the dt's. I got a lot of problems boys I anint got time to fight with you boys, I got her, thats all the fightin i CAN HANDLE. why you all diggin up that dirty ball stuff, you know he said you can do it either way and there was no right or wrong on that one. You are pickin on that boy. now that you aint got old fast on here to kick around and make fun of, are you lonesome for him or sometin like that. Bet its been pretty boring with him gone. Fast said to tell you all he misses you too and that he loves you, even if you dont love him, cause he is a real ball banging player from real big time pool halls, he is one of you, even if hes youir black sheep of the family.
The Ice mon

bolo
06-21-2003, 01:00 PM
It must be awful to wake up in the morning and be you. I truly feel sorry for you, you are serving a life sentence.

06-21-2003, 01:03 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote tateuts:</font><hr>
GNA can't beat guys playing with Meucci's. Seems they ream him all the time.

Here was his post and my advice:

Quote gna:
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I don't play with a meucci but since you are a dealer maybe you can clear something up. I have played in number of rooms over the years where they were the cue. I have been beaten and cleaned out more than once by somebody using one.
I always assumed it was a top cue. Why does all the people on these boards beat it to death, try and tell me why, and is this deserved and again why? Thank you, give it up from an expert on the subject, if you dare sing like a canary?
The ice Mon
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Ice Mon,

Frankly, I'll be as tactful as possible when I say it's simply because you're a really crappy player.

Those guys don't need Meucci's to beat you - that's like using a shotgun on a butterfly.

At your level, you should be looking for people playing with WAL-Mart sticks with two-tone red and bright green nylon wrap, 11mm shafts made out of yellow chinese pine, a "chinese pro" straight taper, and decals that say "TURBO-CHARGED" and "BONZAI" on the side.




What do you think GNA needs to do to improve his game??


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THANKS FOR THE ADVICE TATEUS, OLD ICE MON GOES out needin to make some fast loot needin to buy some booze because gatorannie drunk all of it up. I go into the pool hall and find this guy just like you told me too. hes playin with this $10cue, its got red paper wrapped around it. This guy, cant run 2 balls and he wants to play for 20 a rack. I fugure Im gonna have the bed of my pick em up truck full of wild turkey bottles in a couple of hours. Thaks a lot, that guy took my entire pay check, now I eatin out of the mcdonalds dumpster thaks to you pal. He had a $600 Joss hid under all that paper and it turned out this guy had beat of cj before and was a killer roadie.
Broke down and out ice mon

eg8r
06-21-2003, 01:35 PM
This has to be FL. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif This is the worst grammar I have seen on the board since FL.

Or, it could be a very very sneaky person switching writing styles on us in an effort to divert attention from their normal tendencies. /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

eg8r

eg8r
06-21-2003, 01:36 PM
[ QUOTE ]
bluewolf sticks her head in every other post and either defends FL or says "I'm staying outta this" <hr /></blockquote> Would not it make more sense to just not post anything. Sometimes it is nice to see your name in the lights I guess.

eg8r

tateuts
06-21-2003, 06:12 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote gna:</font><hr>just like you told me too. hes playin with this $10cue, its got red paper wrapped around it. This guy, cant run 2 balls and he wants to play for 20 a rack. I fugure Im gonna have the bed of my pick em up truck full of wild turkey bottles in a couple of hours. Thaks a lot, that guy took my entire pay check, now I eatin out of the mcdonalds dumpster thaks to you pal. He had a $600 Joss hid under all that paper and it turned out this guy had beat of cj before and was a killer roadie.
Broke down and out ice mon <hr /></blockquote>

Now you're talking Larry -

It wasn't the Joss - there's something about that "chinese pro taper" that stops your stroke at just the right place!

Don't feel bad, I choked my guts out today anyway. I played like s*it. Lose my 9 ball match to a snooker player. I hate it when that happens. All they do is roll the cue ball forward and make every shot. Yuck!!!!

Chris

UWPoolGod
06-21-2003, 06:30 PM
Yeah he's switching writing styles...never used to act this hickish before. Like thats throwing a curveball.