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Tom_In_Cincy
07-06-2003, 08:03 PM
After reading the "Table Length Draw" post, it reminded me of of the shot I have been working on all week.

If I had the stroke for a 'table length draw' maybe I wouldn't have needed to practice this shot. But long table length draw shots like the one I have set up, at best, I can only get the cue ball to center table. So, that is why I started practing this 'table length follow' shot.

I saw a less than average player make it look so easy and I was really interested in the shot then.
All you have to do is hit the ob with a little inside and a lot of top. Speed is very important. Also the ob has to have just a small angle into the corner pocket.
WEI Table (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/9egg/)
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It took awhile, but its all in the stroke, and is rather easy after you practice it for awhile.

Rod
07-07-2003, 12:07 AM
Tom,
You mean you have time to practice with the big move comming up? LOL I like those shots, a little inside or outside (depending on c/b position needed) with top gets the job done. I've found it really doesn't take very much effort or extreme top. A smooth stroke keeps the c/b on the table longer and just adds to the effective top by the time it gets to the o/b. If that is reasonably correct then the only other factor is aim.

Here is another that uses the same principal. It needs a "little" more stroke and a touch more left. I'll use your diagram and modify it. If you use to much left it hits the side rail on the way back. If the o/b is close to the pocket, as it is here you could follow it in. It's fairly easy to send whitey to either side of the table. Over working either shot isn't necessary. Many times low just isn't the answer. Good to have both options and play to your strength, like you are doing.

wei (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/9egg/)

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Tom_In_Cincy
07-07-2003, 11:07 AM
Rod,
Yes, that is one of the other shots I have been practicing. When the angle is closer to the side rail. Good to have these type of shots in the ole bag.

Moving work is rewarded by practice time. So many hours with the moving stuff, then off to practice awhile and maybe match up.

It's still very difficult to shut the brain down with all the moving details floating around up there. Its been difficult to have an "A" game for the last few weeks. I kinda expected this, it always happens when I have a lot going on.

Can't wait to see everyone at the US Open.. just under 100 days until then..

Rod
07-07-2003, 11:26 AM
Tom,
Yes I can imagine it is difficult to stay focused. I moved 9 years ago and sold my home, myself. My deadline was the end of june, 93. If I didn't sell it it had to be turned over to an agent. It sold only two or three days before the end of june. I moved July 4th weekend. What a worn out pup I was.

Your just a week or so away from moving aren't you? It will all calm down in no time once your established. Your pool game in the meantime however might take on a new all time low. Just some helpful comments. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Rod

Fran Crimi
07-07-2003, 11:30 AM
Good one, Tom.

Here's one of my favorites. I like to practice it because you have to go way out on the edge of the CB, almost in miscue territory.

Fran

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Tom_In_Cincy
07-07-2003, 01:57 PM
All time LOW.. not likely. I have a good drill program just for those long layoffs (2 or 3 weeks).

The drills are all focused on stroke and inside english. Some of these drills are on my website. www.geocities.com/cincytom314 (http://www.geocities.com/cincytom314)

I don't plan on letting my game go too low.. but stranger things have happened in the last few years.

Tom_In_Cincy
07-07-2003, 02:04 PM
thanks Fran,

I love practicing inside english at different speeds and cut angles.

Do you find that you aim almost like you are hitting the OB directly into the end rail on your shot? (adjusting for CB Squirt)

I like to set up balls for sharp cuts into the corner pockets with inside english to see how far I can go and still get the cue ball back for shape for the 7 ball..
WEI Table (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/9egg/)

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cheesemouse
07-07-2003, 03:44 PM
Fran,

I love to hit those shots and when I see an opponent hesitate or even pass when that is the called for shot I feel that it is just a matter of time...an 'A' level shot for sure.....

UWPoolGod
07-07-2003, 03:55 PM
I also like shooting the forced running english off the 2nd rail for the 7 like so.

Todd

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Fran Crimi
07-07-2003, 04:34 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Tom_In_Cincy:</font><hr>
Do you find that you aim almost like you are hitting the OB directly into the end rail on your shot? (adjusting for CB Squirt)

I like to set up balls for sharp cuts into the corner pockets with inside english to see how far I can go and still get the cue ball back for shape for the 7 ball..
WEI Table (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/9egg/)

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That's another good shot to practice. It comes up a lot, doesn't it?

About your question: I do make an adjustment to hit the shot fuller, but not as much as you'd think. Depends on how hard you stroke the shot. I like to stroke it medium-soft to let the spin really kick-in. So when you hit the cb fairly soft like that, after the cb stops sliding, the sidespin starts to interact with normal roll and it starts to head back in the opposite direction. If you hit it really soft, you don't even have to adjust your aim. Pretty cool.

Fran

Tom_In_Cincy
07-07-2003, 07:09 PM
WOW.. Now I have to admit, I would have to have a lot more confidence in my stroke with that shot, but I do like it and will have to try it on the practice table tonite... Thanks UWPoolGod.

Chris Cass
07-07-2003, 07:23 PM
Hi Todd,

That is a fun shot.

C.C.

Rod
07-07-2003, 09:40 PM
Try it with top right Tom.

Qtec
07-07-2003, 09:58 PM
I played this shot in a match to win the game . Thought I would do a nice stop shot after coming of the rail . Got a bit too much on it and to my amazement, the Qb , after hitting the rail 3 times , dissapeared in the corner pocket .
I could have potted the 9 simple, but I couldnt resist the fancy finish .
My team mates werent too pleased. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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.. its not what you do , but how you do it. /ccboard/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Rod
07-07-2003, 10:18 PM
Q,

Those are fun shots. Next time shoot it with a ball or two on the center diamond. One isn't bad but two is testy. I've made it twice in my life with three.

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Of course if your buddies didn't like the first shot, well --

Qtec
07-07-2003, 10:37 PM
Rod, its never happened to me before! I couldnt do it again if I tried . When I saw it go in , it was a case of "What the f..... /ccboard/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I did win , so I didnt have to walk home.
/ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Q .

CarolNYC
07-08-2003, 03:45 AM
Hi Tom,
Thats a good shot and it comes up more often than you'd imagine!
GOOD JOB!
Stay well!
Carol /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

NH_Steve
07-09-2003, 08:31 PM
I shot this 3-railer in a One Pocket game tonight -- reminded me of your shot!

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